Dead Frog in the Driveway

Drew Rockwell, Patricia Williams, Joni B. Cole

An author, a psychotherapist, and an entrepreneur walked into a bar. What came out is Dead Frog in the Driveway, a podcast that celebrates our potential as creative beings. No matter who you are. No matter what you might believe. No matter what you’ve been told. If you’ve ever wrestled with a blank page, a stuck idea, or a shifting sense of purpose, we hope you’ll find some inspiration from this podcast. Our show is co-hosted by Joni B. Cole (www.jonibcole.com); Pat Williams, and Drew Rockwell, who still believes his Dead Frog in the Driveway story deserved a much better grade.  Subscribe here so you never miss an episode.  Producer: Helmut Baer Cover Art by Bartlett Leber

Episodes

  1. Jun 1

    Episode 8 - "I'm no good at plotting."

    Of all the insecurities writers confront, this is one of the most vexing. But is it true? Or are these writers looking at plotting the wrong way? In this episode, Pat, Drew, and Joni offer insights into how plotting can (and should) be a process of discovery; how your characters can help you figure out what happens next; and how there comes a time when it is critical you impose structure on your story...but maybe that time is later than you think.

    30 min

  2. May 18

    Episode 7 - Why now? In times of angst, what is the role of creativity?

    What happens when fear hijacks our creative flow? In this episode, Joni, Drew, and Pat unpack how our nervous system shapes creativity—from openness to shutdown—and how perfectionism can be a body’s way of staying safe. With insights from Polyvagal Theory and simple tools like breath, movement, and community, they explore how awareness can turn fear from a block into fuel for making art.

    31 min

  3. May 4

    Can creativity help you know yourself better? - Ed Romanoff Interview

    In this episode, Pat goes one-on-one with Ed Romanoff, an award-winning singer-songwriter, corporate storyteller, and the founder of PineRock, a global brand communications company based in New York City. Listen in as they discuss creative timetables, the risks creators face, and how sometimes our stories tell us things we didn’t even know about ourselves. https://www.edromanoff.com/

    31 min

  4. Apr 20

    Episode 6 - Do People Age out of Creativity?

    Rumor has it, the older we get, the less creative we become? In this episode, Pat, Drew, and Joni challenge this cultural narrative with plenty of stories and experiences that prove otherwise. They also offer insights into how best to tap into your creativity, whether you’re going on nine or ninety.

    27 min

  5. Apr 6

    Episode 5 - Getting unstuck. What to do when your creativity has left the building?

    Who hasn't?  Drew, Pat, and Joni unpack what it means to be stuck, why it happens, and offer navigation tips for those moments when the creative police come knocking.  Discover why moving plants found its way into the conversation, and find other hacks to help us all keep going.

    28 min

  6. Mar 23

    Episode 4 - Why craft vis-à-vis the creative process can be so vexing.

    Pat, Drew, and Joni talk about one of Joni’s favorite topics…craft. What role does craft play in the creative process? When does knowing and applying craft serve? When does it get in the way? Here’s hoping this episode will have you looking at narrative craft (or the craft of any creative pursuit) in a whole new (and inviting) way.

    32 min
  7. Marek Bennett - Moving between the moments

    Mar 9

    Marek Bennett - Moving between the moments

    Drew is joined by New Hampshire-based cartoonist, musician, and educator Marek Bennett. They explore the creative process, narrative arc, Kindergarteners, and the power of a simple question: "What's next?"

    27 min

  8. Feb 23

    Episode 3 - Why creativity now?

    Because creating—especially when it feels hardest—is how we embrace hope and resist despair. Drew, Pat, and Joni reflect on art as protest, play, and the quiet work of staying alive to the world.

    31 min

  9. Feb 9

    Episode 2 - Aren’t we supposed to be suffering artists?

    Find out what happens when Pat is confronted with a do-it-yourself dresser with 4000 pieces.   Pat, Drew, and Joni  explore the tortured artist, moments of frustration, and discover dependable joy in practice or process.

    27 min

  10. Jan 26

    Episode 1 - So you think you’re not creative. Think again.

    Why do so many people deny their creativity? Drew, Pat, and Joni try to tease out this mystery. Plus, they take themselves by surprise by their own answers to the question: What is one of the most creative things you’ve ever done?

    31 min
  • 10 Episodes

Ratings & Reviews

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out of 5
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About

An author, a psychotherapist, and an entrepreneur walked into a bar. What came out is Dead Frog in the Driveway, a podcast that celebrates our potential as creative beings. No matter who you are. No matter what you might believe. No matter what you’ve been told. If you’ve ever wrestled with a blank page, a stuck idea, or a shifting sense of purpose, we hope you’ll find some inspiration from this podcast. Our show is co-hosted by Joni B. Cole (www.jonibcole.com); Pat Williams, and Drew Rockwell, who still believes his Dead Frog in the Driveway story deserved a much better grade.  Subscribe here so you never miss an episode.  Producer: Helmut Baer Cover Art by Bartlett Leber

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  • Creator
    Drew Rockwell, Patricia Williams, Joni B. Cole
  • Years Active
    2K
  • Episodes
    10
  • Rating
    Explicit
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    © 2026 Dead Frog in the Driveway
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