What happens to brands when consumers stop searching Google and start asking AI what to buy? SEO and AI expert Krystian Szastok, Founder of Robot Zebra and former architect of the SEO division at Jellyfish, joins Marketing Over Milkshakes to explore how ChatGPT, Google AI Overviews and generative AI are changing search, ecommerce, affiliate marketing and digital marketing. Krystian explains why traditional SEO alone is no longer enough, why brands need to build visibility across the wider internet and how mentions, reviews, affiliate placements, digital PR and third-party recommendations can help AI systems understand which businesses and products deserve to be recommended. The conversation explores the shift from traditional search engine optimisation towards AI search optimisation, AI visibility and LLM discoverability, including how brands can improve their chances of appearing in ChatGPT, Gemini and AI-generated search results. They also look further ahead at the rise of AI shopping agents, clickless checkout, social commerce, TikTok Shop and a future where AI could automatically choose products, book hotels, answer emails and make increasingly important decisions on behalf of consumers. Krystian also explains why businesses that ignore this shift risk being left behind, how AI could reshape white-collar jobs and agencies, and why human strategy, judgement, creativity and accountability may become more valuable as automation accelerates. In this episode, you will hear: Why AI search could become the biggest change to marketing since GoogleHow ChatGPT is changing traditional consumer search behaviourWhy Google AI Overviews are reducing clicks to websitesHow brands can increase visibility inside ChatGPT, Gemini and AI searchWhy brand mentions, reviews, affiliates and digital PR matter for AI citationsHow third-party consensus can influence AI product recommendationsWhy smaller brands have both a huge challenge and opportunity in AI searchHow SEO agencies need to evolve for generative AI and LLM searchWhy businesses delaying investment in AI visibility could struggle to catch upHow AI shopping agents and clickless checkout could change ecommerceThe role of TikTok Shop and social commerce in an AI-led futureWhich white-collar jobs are already being disrupted by artificial intelligenceWhy strategy, creativity and human judgement still create competitive advantageThe best- and worst-case scenarios for an AI-powered society Key Moments: 0:00 – The “Godfather of AI” and the future of search 2:08 – Krystian Szastok: SEO, Jellyfish, Robot Zebra and artificial intelligence 3:19 – What has changed since ChatGPT launched? 9:56 – Is AI already taking sales and traffic away from Google SEO? 13:31 – How brands can rank and get recommended in AI search 17:40 – Why third-party mentions and consensus influence AI visibility 18:51 – The AI opportunity for affiliate marketing, PR and publishers 24:56 – Google AI Overviews and the decline of traditional organic clicks 33:14 – Why brands that ignore AI could be left behind 34:59 – Why AI is a revolution rather than another marketing evolution 40:18 – AI shopping agents, automated purchasing and clickless checkout 48:13 – When will AI completely change the ecommerce customer journey? 59:08 – TikTok Shop, social commerce and the future of online shopping 1:02:11 – Will AI replace white-collar jobs and marketing agencies? 1:06:29 – The best and worst possible futures for artificial intelligence 1:22:08 – The one question Krystian would ask about the future of AI 1:31:08 – Why human judgement, strategy and accountability still matter