Beyond the Corporate Ladder

Stephen Lee-Thomas
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Beyond the Corporate Ladder is a leadership podcast featuring candid conversations with high-performing professionals who have built meaningful careers—and are now turning around to help others climb smarter, lead better, and live with greater intention. Each episode spotlights experienced leaders as they reflect on the journey of success: what they believed early on, what changed as responsibility grew, and the lessons they wish they had learned sooner. These are stories about perspective, how success evolves, how leadership matures, and how fulfillment is redefined over time. The conversations explore leadership, responsibility, pressure, growth, and purpose. Offering practical wisdom for ambitious professionals who want to achieve success without losing themselves in the process. Beyond the Corporate Ladder is for those who are building, leading, and contributing at a high level: and who believe that true success is measured not just by titles or compensation, but by impact, alignment, and the life they are intentionally creating.

  1. 6d ago

    From Corporate to Creative Entrepreneur: Lessons on Structure, Delegation & Growth!

    What happens after you leave the corporate structure behind and suddenly realize you're responsible for creating the structure yourself? In Episode 18 of Beyond the Corporate Ladder, Stephen Lee-Thomas sits down with internationally award-winning photographer, educator, and speaker Shawn Black to unpack his transition from television and agency work to building a photography business that has lasted more than 16 years. Shawn shares how losing his agency job became the catalyst for entrepreneurship, why he initially photographed almost anything to build momentum, and how his career eventually evolved from weddings into a specialized boudoir photography business centered on confidence, strength, and helping clients see themselves differently. But this conversation goes well beyond photography. Shawn explains why “freedom needs to be managed,” how entrepreneurs can create structure without recreating the corporate environment they left, why continuous learning matters at every stage of business, and how knowing when to delegate can unlock the next stage of growth. What You'll Learn Why entrepreneurial freedom still requires structure How Shawn turned an unexpected career disruption into a 16-year business Why finding the right niche can change both your business and your fulfillment How to learn from people at every experience level Why outside perspectives help uncover business blind spots How Shawn manages overwhelm and protects focused work When outsourcing starts making financial sense How to move from doing everything yourself toward building a scalable business Why Shawn is now designing the company to operate beyond his own time behind the camera Chapters [00:00] Meet Shawn Black [01:12] What Boudoir Photography Really Means [03:08] Helping Clients Rediscover Confidence [05:10] From Television and Agency Work to Photography [07:06] Losing His Corporate Job and Taking the Leap [09:02] Building Momentum by Saying Yes to Everything [10:03] Why Shawn Started Moving Away From Weddings [12:45] Finding Purpose Through Boudoir Photography [16:01] The Biggest Surprise After Leaving Corporate [18:55] Why Entrepreneurs Need Their Own Structure [20:13] The Importance of Never Stopping Learning [22:40] Why Outside Perspectives Matter [24:17] Managing Overwhelm as a Business Owner [26:05] Knowing When It's Time to Outsource [28:53] Scaling Beyond the Owner [31:03] How to Connect With Shawn Shawn's journey is a reminder that leaving corporate isn't the destination. Building a career and business around the life you actually want requires continuous adjustment, learning, and intentional decisions. If you have a career journey or leadership lesson worth sharing, apply to join us on Beyond the Corporate Ladder: https://beyondthecorporateladder.com/podcast-guest-booking

    From Corporate to Creative Entrepreneur: Lessons on Structure, Delegation & Growth!

  2. Aug 31

    From Six-Figure Executive to Entrepreneur: Laura Biewer’s Career Reinvention!

    What would make someone leave a six-figure leadership position and willingly take a two-thirds pay cut? For Laura Biewer, it was the belief that she could build something of her own. In Episode 17 of Beyond the Corporate Ladder, Stephen Lee-Thomas sits down with Laura Biewer, a mobile notary with 22 years of experience, educator, author, industry advocate, and co-founder of the Certified Notary Trust Delivery Agent (CNTDA) program. Laura shares how she transitioned out of a vice president role at a nonprofit, unexpectedly entered the elder-care business, and discovered mobile notary work after struggling to find notaries willing to serve residents at her facility. That opportunity eventually became a career. But Laura's journey wasn't linear. When the 2008 financial crisis disrupted the loan-signing business, she had to reinvent herself again. She found a new specialty in trust signings and went on to build expertise in serving attorneys, legal professionals, hospital patients, hospice patients, skilled-nursing residents, and homebound signers. Today, Laura also teaches and coaches other notaries, helps professionals discover new specialties, and advocates for stronger laws and protections within the industry. What You’ll Learn: Why Laura walked away from a six-figure career How an unexpected opportunity led her into entrepreneurship Why she was willing to accept a major short-term income reduction How the 2008 financial crisis forced her to reinvent her business Why specialization can create more valuable opportunities for notaries How mobile trust-signing services can increase capacity for attorneys Why community matters when you're building a business independently How Laura moved from practitioner to educator, coach, author, and advocate Why serving others has become central to her definition of success Chapters 00:00 — Meet Laura Biewer and the CNTDA 02:20 — Helping Attorneys With Mobile Trust Signings 05:15 — Building a 22-Year Mobile Notary Career 07:20 — Leaving a Six-Figure Leadership Position 09:35 — The Unexpected Business That Changed Laura's Career 11:20 — Becoming a Mobile Notary 12:35 — From Notary to Educator and Coach 15:20 — Moving Into Industry Advocacy 17:40 — Finding Purpose Through Service 19:35 — What Laura Wishes She Knew About Success 21:05 — Why Community Matters in Entrepreneurship 23:00 — Creating Multiple Income Streams as a Notary 24:15 — The Compassionate Notary and Serving Vulnerable Signers 26:00 — How to Connect With Laura Laura's story is a reminder that leaving the corporate ladder doesn't require having the entire journey mapped out. Sometimes the next opportunity appears because you're willing to solve the problem directly in front of you. Have a career journey, leadership lesson, or story worth sharing? Apply to be a guest on Beyond the Corporate Ladder: https://beyondthecorporateladder.com/podcast-guest-booking

    From Six-Figure Executive to Entrepreneur: Laura Biewer’s Career Reinvention!

  3. Aug 21

    What Comes After Success? Finding Purpose in Your Next Chapter!

    What happens when achieving the next promotion, building more skills, and reaching another professional milestone no longer feels like enough? In Episode 16 of Beyond the Corporate Ladder, Stephen Lee-Thomas sits down with Jack Sparling, Co-Founder of Aspire Success, to explore how our definition of success can evolve from personal achievement toward purpose, leadership, and helping other people grow. After more than 30 years in professional services leading high-performing teams and solving complex problems for major organizations, Jack entered a new chapter focused on executive coaching and leadership development. He shares why some of his most fulfilling professional moments came not from his own advancement, but from seeing the people around him succeed. The conversation explores a critical question for anyone responsible for a team: Are you creating followers or are you creating leaders? What You’ll Learn Why professional achievement doesn't always create lasting fulfillment How Jack's definition of success changed throughout his career Why leaders need to develop other leaders instead of solving every problem themselves How empowering people to fail and learn can strengthen a team Why purpose can become a framework for major career decisions How self-awareness affects the way you lead How the Purpose Factor Assessment helps people articulate what drives them Why understanding your team's strengths can improve engagement How executives can think differently about their next career chapter Chapters [00:00] Meet Jack Sparling [01:42] From Corporate Leadership to Executive Coaching [03:48] Finding Fulfillment Beyond Achievement [06:08] How Jack’s Definition of Success Changed [08:12] Be a River, Not a Reservoir [09:56] Great Leaders Create Leaders [12:03] Empowering Your Team to Learn and Fail [14:02] Who Jack Coaches Today [15:55] From People Pleaser to Purpose Pleaser [18:03] Purpose, Leadership, and Employee Engagement [20:05] Understanding the Purpose Factor Assessment [22:04] Why Self-Awareness Makes You a Better Leader [24:00] Using Purpose to Build Stronger Teams [26:40] Jack’s Purpose Factor Assessment Offer [28:45] Closing Thoughts   Jack also shares an opportunity for listeners: the first three people who connect with him on LinkedIn and send the word “purpose” can receive a Purpose Factor Assessment and a 30-minute debrief with him. Ready to share your own side of the story on Beyond the Corporate Ladder? Apply to be a guest: https://beyondthecorporateladder.com/podcast-guest-booking

    What Comes After Success? Finding Purpose in Your Next Chapter!

  4. Aug 10

    How Great Leaders Scale Businesses Through Systems, Purpose & People!

    What separates founders who successfully scale from those who stay trapped inside their own businesses? In this episode of Beyond the Corporate Ladder, Stephen Lee-Thomas sits down with healthcare entrepreneur Eric Lowe, CEO and Co-Founder of Aptiva Health, to explore the leadership principles that transformed a startup into a rapidly expanding healthcare organization. Eric shares why healthcare needs to become more human, how great leaders create cultures that scale, and why documenting systems may be one of the highest-return investments a founder can make. The conversation also dives into his upcoming book, Be the Broker, where he introduces concepts like Relational Capital and the LASSO Framework a practical approach to leveraging relationships, aligning incentives, building systems, and optimizing growth. Whether you're building a business, leading a team, or preparing for your next stage of growth, this episode offers actionable leadership lessons grounded in real-world experience. What You'll Learn Why leaders become their own biggest bottleneck How systems create organizational freedom The power of relational capital Why culture starts at the top How AI should support, not replace human relationships Why purpose outlasts profit as motivation Leadership lessons for scaling without burnout Chapters [00:00] Introduction & Meet Eric Lowe [01:12] Why Eric Is Passionate About Fixing Healthcare [04:08] What's Broken in the Healthcare System? [07:45] Building a Hospitality-First Patient Experience [11:18] Creating Company Culture Across Multiple Locations [14:05] Healthcare Transparency & Making Care More Affordable [18:12] The Entrepreneurial Mindset: Purpose Over Profit [21:06] The Biggest Leadership Mistake Founders Make [24:03] Why Leaders Must Stop Being the Bottleneck [26:20] The "Be the Broker" Mindset Explained [28:55] Building Relational Capital in the Age of AI [30:08] Eric Lowe's Advice for Success & Where to Connect Guest Eric Lowe CEO & Co-Founder, Aptiva Health Connect with Eric LinkedIn: Eric Lowe Broker Driven: https://brokerdriven.com Enjoying the show? If you'd like to share your own journey on the podcast, apply here: CLICK ME!!

    How Great Leaders Scale Businesses Through Systems, Purpose & People!

  5. Jul 31

    Starting a Side Business: Practical Advice for First-Time Entrepreneurs!

    What does it really take to build a business while working a full-time career? In this episode of Beyond the Corporate Ladder, Stephen Lee-Thomas sits down with Wondella Payne, a certified paralegal and business consultant who helps aspiring entrepreneurs launch their businesses while continuing to work their day jobs. Wondella shares how she leveraged nearly two decades of legal experience into a consulting business, discusses balancing entrepreneurship with a full-time career, and explains why success is more than simply making more money. What You'll Learn Why you don't have to quit your job to become an entrepreneur How to turn existing career skills into a business Common mistakes new business owners make Why AI is a powerful tool, but not a replacement for expertise Building passive income over time Defining success on your own terms Chapters [00:00] Introduction [01:03] Meet Wondella Payne [03:08] Why She Started Her Business [05:25] Balancing Corporate and Entrepreneurship [08:55] Helping Entrepreneurs Launch Businesses [12:25] Growing a Business Since 2018 [14:15] AI's Impact on Small Business [17:10] Defining Success [18:45] Building Passive Income [19:45] Final Advice for Future Entrepreneurs   If you're considering launching your own business while maintaining career stability, this episode offers practical advice and encouragement. 🎙️ Get a Chance to Share Your Side of the Story! CLICK ME!!

    Starting a Side Business: Practical Advice for First-Time Entrepreneurs!

  6. Jul 13

    How to Leave Corporate, Build a Business & Scale Without Burning Out!

    Thinking about leaving your corporate job to start a business? In this episode of Beyond the Corporate Ladder, Stephen Lee-Thomas sits down with entrepreneur and recruiting expert Darren Tompkins to discuss what it really takes to make the leap into entrepreneurship. From setting an exit strategy to hiring your first employees, Darren shares practical lessons learned from building his own recruiting company after years in corporate America. What You'll Learn When it's time to leave your W-2 job Why hiring too early can hurt your business How virtual assistants can create time freedom The biggest hiring mistakes founders make Why failure is part of every entrepreneur's journey Chapters [00:00] Introduction [01:12] Darren's background [04:40] When businesses should hire [09:10] Knowing when to scale [12:30] Leaving your W-2 job [16:05] Building a lifestyle-first business [19:30] Using virtual assistants effectively [22:10] Why entrepreneurs must embrace failure [24:20] Final advice If you're building a business or preparing to make the leap from corporate life, this episode offers actionable advice to help you grow intentionally. Get a Chance to Share Your Side of the Story! CLICK ME!!!

    How to Leave Corporate, Build a Business & Scale Without Burning Out!

  7. Jul 3

    Strategic HR in the Age of AI: Leadership, Trust, and Organizational Growth!

    Artificial Intelligence is changing business faster than ever, but what does that really mean for leaders and HR professionals? In this episode of Beyond the Corporate Ladder, Stephen Lee-Thomas sits down with Heather Mallette, Founder & CEO of The Decision Line, to discuss how AI is transforming Human Resources from a transactional department into a strategic business partner. Heather shares why successful AI adoption isn't about replacing people, it's about empowering leaders, improving decision-making, and building organizations that are ready for the future. From leadership development and organizational culture to trust, change management, and practical AI implementation, this conversation offers valuable insights for business owners, executives, HR professionals, and anyone leading teams through change. What You'll Learn Why AI won't replace effective leadership How HR has evolved into a strategic business function The biggest mistakes organizations make when adopting AI How to introduce AI without creating resistance Why trust is the foundation of successful change How strong leaders prepare their teams for the future Why career growth comes from experience, not titles The importance of organizational culture in long-term success Chapters [00:00] Introduction [01:05] Meet Heather Mallette [03:12] How HR Has Changed Over the Last 25 Years [07:15] Why HR Deserves a Seat at the Leadership Table [10:28] AI Will Redefine Leadership [15:18] How Companies Should Adopt AI [20:45] Organizational Readiness & Building Trust [25:12] Career Growth Through Stretch Assignments [29:42] The Future of AI, Leadership & Work [32:15] Culture Is What Leaders Reward [34:10] Where to Connect with Heather About Heather Mallette Heather Mallette is the Founder & CEO of The Decision Line and a strategic HR leader with more than 25 years of experience helping organizations improve leadership, people operations, and business performance through thoughtful AI implementation. Connect with Heather LinkedIn: Heather Mallette Instagram: @heyitsheatherm Email: heathermallette@yahoo.com Enjoying the show? Get a chance to share your side of the story? Apply to be a guest: Click here!

    Strategic HR in the Age of AI: Leadership, Trust, and Organizational Growth!

  8. Jun 5

    She Turned Pain Into Purpose Through Food, Mercy & Mental Health Advocacy

    What happens when entrepreneurship becomes a vehicle for healing, empathy, and purpose? In this episode of Beyond the Corporate Ladder, Stephen Lee-Thomas sits down with Shabana Serang entrepreneur, nonprofit founder, podcast host, and creator of the Mercy Mindset movement. Shabana shares her deeply personal journey growing up as the daughter of immigrants, watching her father work tirelessly to build a better life, and how those experiences inspired her mission to “spread mercy with every bite.” The conversation explores: Purpose-driven entrepreneurship Mental health and vulnerability Building businesses rooted in compassion The power of self-awareness and self-compassion Balancing motherhood, mission, and personal healing Using food as a force for community impact Shabana also opens up about her own struggles with mental health, entrepreneurship, and learning to navigate life through mercy and transparency. What You’ll Learn Why healing and entrepreneurship can coexist How empathy can shape business leadership The real meaning of “mercy mindset” How purpose-driven businesses can create social impact Why vulnerability matters in leadership Chapters [00:00] Introduction [01:12] Shabana’s immigrant family story [03:18] Healing through food and Mercy Mediterranean [06:02] Creating Miracles for Mercy [08:11] Entrepreneurship, sacrifice, and balance [11:07] Mental health, self-awareness, and transparency [15:08] Current projects and future vision [16:42] What mercy really means [17:45] Final thoughts and where to connect Connect with Shabana Website: https://miraclesformercy.com CTA You can be my next guest speaker! How to apply: https://beyondthecorporateladder.com/podcast-guest-booking#section-FkxnSoB5Fv

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Beyond the Corporate Ladder is a leadership podcast featuring candid conversations with high-performing professionals who have built meaningful careers—and are now turning around to help others climb smarter, lead better, and live with greater intention. Each episode spotlights experienced leaders as they reflect on the journey of success: what they believed early on, what changed as responsibility grew, and the lessons they wish they had learned sooner. These are stories about perspective, how success evolves, how leadership matures, and how fulfillment is redefined over time. The conversations explore leadership, responsibility, pressure, growth, and purpose. Offering practical wisdom for ambitious professionals who want to achieve success without losing themselves in the process. Beyond the Corporate Ladder is for those who are building, leading, and contributing at a high level: and who believe that true success is measured not just by titles or compensation, but by impact, alignment, and the life they are intentionally creating.

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  • Creator
    Stephen Lee-Thomas
  • Years Active
    2026
  • Episodes
    18
  • Rating
    Clean
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    © 2026 Beyond The Corporate Ladder
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