Recorded LIVE at the 71st ACNM AnnualMeeting in Kansas City, Missouri! Our host Jessica Brumley sitsdown with Emily Malloy, CNM, PhD, a midwife fromMilwaukee, Wisconsin.Emily shares her incredible journey of advocating for andestablishing water birth protocols within a major hospital system, which led her to conduct the first randomized controlled trial of hospital water birth in the US, published in 2025. Together, they break down what the research actually shows: how water immersion acts as "the midwife's epidural," reducing epidural rates, improving patient satisfaction, and maintaining equivalent safety outcomes for low-risk birthing families. Guest: Emily M. Malloy, PhD, CNM, FACNM Advocate Health, Aurora Sinai Medical Center Assistant Professor Wake Forest University School of Medicine, Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology Waterbirth articles: Malloy, E., Kram, J. J. F., Adefisoye, J. O., Forgie, M., Kleber, D., Scherer, M., Anklam, A., Hernandez, N., & Hanson, L. (2025). Hospital waterbirth for low-risk birthing people: findings of a randomized controlled trial. AJOG global reports, 5(4), 100558. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.xagr.2025.100558 Malloy, E., Luff, A., Kram, J. J. F., Adefisoye, J., Forgie, M., Oliver, V., Scherer, M., Wolf, C., Chakrabarti, D., & Hanson, L. (2026). Characteristics Associated With Tub Entry and Birth in Water Among People Planning a Waterbirth. Journal of midwifery & women's health, 10.1111/jmwh.70180. Advance online publication. https://doi.org/10.1111/jmwh.70180 The Discover Midwives Podcast was created to empower you with accurate, compassionate, and evidence-informed answers to your most pressing questions about pregnancy, birth, postpartum, and women’s health—delivered from a uniquely midwifery perspective. Our goals are to normalize conversations about reproductive health, offer clarity in a landscape saturated with misinformation, and build public trust in midwifery care! Tune in, subscribe, and share your thoughts in the comments below! Do you want to support our work? Leave a rating and review on Apple or Spotify to help us bring you more inspiring and informative conversations. Screenshot this episode and share it on your socials! Tag @discovermidwives + #DiscoverMidwives Visit our website for more info and resources: Discover Midwives Connect on Socials: Instagram — @discovermidwives Facebook — ACNM Midwives YouTube — Discover Midwives Podcast The Discover Midwives Team Jessica Brumley, PhD, CNM — Host Russell Chapa — Producer, Sound Engineer, Original Music A Buyride Production Presented by the American College of Nurse-Midwives Brought to you by our sponsors: MomCozy Biogen