Crying Out Loud with Dr. Laura Berman

Dr. Laura Berman
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Crying Out Loud is a grief companion for anyone carrying loss. Hosted by Dr. Laura Berman, bestselling author, therapist, and grieving mother, the show blends clinical guidance with spiritual insight to support healing on every level. Each week features conversations with experts, healers and mediums to help regulate your nervous system, honor your grief, and explore continued connection with loved ones on the other side. You were never meant to grieve alone. Let’s cry out loud together.

  1. 2d ago

    Can Psylocibin Help with Grief and Help Us Connect to the Other Side? Heather A. Lee

    When someone you love dies, you start looking for them everywhere. In dreams. In songs. In signs that show up at exactly the right moment. Anything that might tell you they’re still here somehow. But what happens when psilocybin opens a door you didn’t even know was there? My guest, Heather A. Lee, is one of the first certified and licensed psychedelic-assisted psychotherapists in the U.S. Before moving into psychedelic medicine, she spent years as a hospice social worker, sitting with people at the end of life. She later trained with researchers at Johns Hopkins, NYU and Imperial College London, and she’s the author of The Psilocybin Sessions. I’ve been curious about Heather’s work for a long time, especially after having my own profound psilocybin experience. So I wanted to understand what is actually happening during these journeys. What does psilocybin do to the brain? Why can it sometimes reach grief, trauma and old wounds that years of talk therapy haven’t touched? And what do we make of the people who say they encountered someone they love who has died? Heather explains how psilocybin quiets some of the brain systems involved in fear and our fixed sense of self, creating a window where old patterns can loosen and something new can emerge. We talk about why preparation and integration matter, why she believes these experiences should be facilitated by someone properly trained, and who should stay away from psychedelics altogether. Then we get into the part of this conversation I was especially interested in: grief. Heather shares stories of people who encountered loved ones who had died during their journeys, including a mother whose 18-year-old son died from fentanyl poisoning and who felt she spent hours communicating with him. We talk about whether these experiences are happening entirely inside the brain, whether they might give us access to something beyond our ordinary awareness, and whether we even need to know for certain in order for the experience to be healing. I also share something I haven’t talked about publicly before: my own psilocybin journey. While my best friend was having a beautiful experience with angels, guides and flowers, I spent hours feeling as though I was physically giving birth to grief. My body moved in waves and convulsions as I saw women surrounding me like midwives and felt grief moving through me for Sammy, for my childhood, for mothers and women I had never met. It was one of the strangest and most powerful experiences of my life. We also talk about microdosing, anxiety and OCD, antidepressants, neuroplasticity, and what Heather has learned from decades of working around death and dying about consciousness and what might happen after we die. In this episode, we talk about: What psilocybin actually does in the brain Why grief and trauma can surface in ways we don’t expect The difference between taking mushrooms recreationally and doing a facilitated therapeutic journey Why preparation and integration are such an important part of the process What it can feel like to encounter someone you love who has died My own experience of physically “birthing” grief during a psilocybin journey Whether psychedelic experiences are happening in the brain, beyond it, or possibly both Psilocybin for anxiety and OCD Antidepressants and other considerations before a psychedelic journey Microdosing versus a full-dose journey Who should not use psilocybin How grief can open us to questions about consciousness, connection and what happens after death If you’ve ever wondered whether psychedelics can help us access parts of grief that we can’t seem to reach any other way, or whether the people we love might still be available to us in ways we don’t fully understand, I think you’ll find this conversation fascinating. This isn't about convincing you of anything. It's about staying curious about what connection can look like after loss, and what our minds and hearts might be capable of as we heal. Don't forget to follow Heather A. Lee and check out her book, The Psilocybin Sessions. You can find more of her work on her website or by following her on Instagram. She's also opening a grief-specific psilocybin retreat in Colorado this January, details to come on her socials. And if you want to explore more of how our brains, bodies, histories and emotional patterns shape the way we love and connect, come find me on my other podcast, The Language of Love. Every week, I talk with leading experts and share what I've learned in more than 30 years as a therapist about relationships, intimacy and healing. You can find The Language of Love wherever you're listening to Crying Out Loud. This episode is also brought to you in part by Channeling Grief, a Substack by Elizabeth Kopple. After her 18-year-old son, Henry, died on his first day of college, Elizabeth turned to writing to explore grief and how we find connection, meaning, and a way forward after profound loss. Now a certified grief educator, she shares essays, interviews, and resources to help you feel seen and less alone. Subscribe for free at channelinggrief.substack.com. We're so grateful to Elizabeth for supporting Crying Out Loud and our grieving community. And if you're looking for support, connection, or a place to feel less alone, my book, Crying Out Loud: A Path Through Grief Into a Life Reimagined, and The Grief Healing Collective are here for you. If something in this episode spoke to your heart, share your story or send your questions to cryingoutloudpod@gmail.com.

  2. Sep 10

    Is That Really You? Signs, Skepticism & Connection After Loss with Rachel Stewart

    Have you ever had something happen after someone you love died that made you stop and think, Wait...was that you? A song at exactly the right moment. A dream that feels different from an ordinary dream. A coincidence that feels almost impossible to explain. For a moment, you feel them. And then your rational brain kicks in. Am I imagining this? Am I seeing what I want to see? Was that really them? I know this dance between connection and doubt very well. After Sammy died, finding ways to stay connected to him became an important part of my grief and ultimately changed what I believe about death. But I also know how vulnerable these experiences can feel, especially when someone you love doesn’t believe what you believe. My guest Rachel Stewart understands this deeply. Her 10-year-old daughter, Kenadie, died from cancer, and at the time, Rachel and her husband, Shane, had no real spiritual or religious framework for understanding where she had gone. Rachel desperately wanted to know Kenadie was still somewhere and that their relationship hadn’t simply ended. But wanting to believe something and actually believing it are two very different things. Rachel tells me about a medium reading that left her with questions until Shane casually revealed one detail that changed everything. We talk about the experiences that began challenging their skepticism, why Rachel kept asking Kenadie for more proof, and what happened when her very skeptical husband finally agreed to try energy healing himself. We also get into something that doesn’t get talked about enough: what happens when you and the person you’re grieving with believe very different things? My husband and I don’t always interpret my experiences with Sammy the same way either. Rachel and I talk about how lonely that can feel and why you don’t need to convince anyone else in order to honor an experience that brings you comfort or connection. In this episode, we talk about: The signs that began changing what Rachel believed about death A medium reading that took on an entirely different meaning after one unexpected detail Why powerful experiences don’t necessarily make skepticism disappear What happened when Shane agreed to try energy healing Meditation, grief and learning to quiet the noise enough to listen Whether seeking connection with someone who died can ever become a way of avoiding grief Grieving alongside a partner who doesn’t share your beliefs How Rachel’s search for Kenadie eventually became For 11, the grief community she and Shane wished they’d had If you’ve ever received what felt like a sign and then immediately talked yourself out of it, or if part of you desperately wants to believe your person is still with you while another part thinks, Come on, this can’t be real, I think you’ll find a lot in this conversation. You don’t have to decide what you believe before you listen. There’s room for skepticism, curiosity and the possibility that love and relationship may continue in ways we don’t completely understand Thank you again for the opportunity to be a guest on your podcast. I have put together a private, small invite only retreat for your listeners. Do you know when our episode will air. https://heatheralee.com/where-grief-finds-its-place-to-land You can connect with Rachel through her website, For 11 Together, and follow her on Instagram and TikTok at @for11_together. Explore her Better Together resources and the For 11 community to learn more about the practices and experiences we discuss. And if you want to explore more of how our brains, bodies, histories and emotional patterns shape the way we love and connect, find me on my other podcast, The Language of Love. Every week, I talk with leading experts and share what I’ve learned in more than 30 years as a therapist about relationships, intimacy and healing. You can find The Language of Love wherever you’re listening to Crying Out Loud. This episode is also brought to you in part by Channeling Grief, a Substack by Elizabeth Kopple. After her 18-year-old son, Henry, died on his first day of college, Elizabeth turned to writing to explore grief and how we find connection, meaning, and a way forward after profound loss. Now a certified grief educator, she shares essays, interviews, and resources to help you feel seen and less alone. Subscribe for free at channelinggrief.substack.com. We're so grateful to Elizabeth for supporting Crying Out Loud and our grieving community. And if you're looking for support, connection, or a place to feel less alone, Laura's book, Crying Out Loud: A Path Through Grief Into a Life Reimagined, and The Grief Healing Collective are here for you. If something in this episode spoke to your heart, share your story or send your questions to cryingoutloudpod@gmail.com. None of us are meant to carry this alone.

  3. Sep 3

    Why Grief Feels Like Losing Your Mind: What’s Actually Happening to Your Brain with Dr. Daniel Amen

    When Sammy died, I expected heartbreak. I didn’t expect what grief would do to my brain. I couldn’t remember things. I couldn’t concentrate. Words disappeared in the middle of sentences. I would walk into a room and have no idea why I was there. At times, I genuinely wondered what was happening to me. If you’ve experienced grief brain, you know how frightening it can be. And there are real reasons for it. Dr. Daniel Amen is a psychiatrist and brain health expert who has spent decades studying the brain. He’s the founder of Amen Clinics and the author of numerous New York Times bestsellers, including Change Your Brain, Change Your Lifeand his newest book, Change Your Brain, Change Your Pain. I’ve known Daniel for more than twenty years, long before I knew grief from the inside. So I wanted to sit down with him and ask the questions I wish I’d had answers to after Sammy died: What is actually happening inside our brains when we’re grieving? Why can we suddenly feel cognitively impaired? And can a brain changed by profound loss heal? We get into the science of grief brain, but this conversation goes much further. Daniel explains why grief can affect your memory, energy, sleep, gut and physical health, and why two people can experience the same kind of loss very differently. We also talk about guilt and the loops our brains can get trapped in after trauma, the relationship between anger and forgiveness, and what happens in the brain when we meditate, pray or experience hope. And we talk about something I care deeply about: what helps the brain begin to heal while we are still carrying the loss. In this episode, we talk about: What “grief brain” actually is and why loss can affect memory, concentration and executive function Why grief can show up throughout the body, including in your gut Daniel’s concept of “brain reserve” and why people respond so differently to trauma and loss What happens in the brain when we experience hope Why guilt can become so persistent after someone dies and how to interrupt it The “doom loop” and “healing loop,” and the habits that reinforce each one The connection between unresolved anger, forgiveness and emotional pain What prayer, meditation and faith may do in the brain Why menopause can compound some of the cognitive changes women experience during grief What Daniel has learned about resilience after decades of studying the brain If grief has ever made you wonder, “Am I losing my mind?” I really want you to hear this conversation. There is a reason your brain doesn’t feel like the brain you had before your loss. Understanding what is happening can make it a little less frightening and, more importantly, help us understand what our brains need from us as we heal. Don't forget to follow Dr. Daniel Amen and check out his newest book, Change Your Brain, Change Your Pain: Breaking the Doom Loop to Heal Chronic Physical and Emotional Pain. You can find more of his work on his website or by following him on Instagram and TikTok. And if you want to explore more of how our brains, bodies, histories and emotional patterns shape the way we love and connect, come find me on my other podcast, The Language of Love.. Every week, I talk with leading experts and share what I’ve learned in more than 30 years as a therapist about relationships, intimacy and healing. You can find The The Language of Love wherever you’re listening to Crying Out Loud. This episode is also brought to you in part by Channeling Grief, a Substack by Elizabeth Kopple. After her 18-year-old son, Henry, died on his first day of college, Elizabeth turned to writing to explore grief and how we find connection, meaning, and a way forward after profound loss. Now a certified grief educator, she shares essays, interviews, and resources to help you feel seen and less alone. Subscribe for free at channelinggrief.substack.com. We're so grateful to Elizabeth for supporting Crying Out Loud and our grieving community. And if you're looking for support, connection, or a place to feel less alone, Laura's book, Crying Out Loud: A Path Through Grief Into a Life Reimagined, and The Grief Healing Collective are here for you. If something in this episode spoke to your heart, share your story or send your questions to cryingoutloudpod@gmail.com. None of us are meant to carry this alone.

  4. Aug 27

    Finding the Words: What Comes After the Unthinkable Loss with Colin Campbell

    How do you keep choosing life when the life you loved disappeared in a single instant? In 2018, Colin Campbell and his wife Gail were driving home from a family trip to Joshua Tree when a drunk driver slammed into their car at 90 miles an hour. Colin and Gail were knocked unconscious. When Colin opened his eyes, their two teenage children, Ruby and Hart, were already gone in the back seat. There was no time to prepare. No ambulance ride spent hoping. No chance to say one more thing. In the years since, Colin has become one of the most powerful and refreshingly honest voices in grief. He is the author of Finding the Words: Working Through Profound Loss with Hope and Purpose and the writer and performer behind the acclaimed solo show Grief: A One Man ShitShow. What I love about Colin's work is that he doesn't stay in the abstract. He talks about what it actually means to live with grief. And that is where our conversation goes. We talk about what happens when you stop trying to protect yourself from the pain. What grief can do to your marriage, your friendships, your identity, and even your sex life. Why guilt can become so tangled up with love. And how you begin allowing yourself to experience joy again without feeling as though you're betraying the people you lost. This is a conversation about the parts of grief we don't always know how to talk about, and what it really takes to build a life that can hold devastating loss alongside love, connection, purpose, pleasure, and even joy. If you've ever wondered how you're supposed to keep living when someone you love is no longer physically here, I think you'll find something in Colin's words that stays with you. In this episode, we talk about: Why feeling your grief may be very different from being consumed by it Colin's surprising "say yes" approach to life after loss The connection between our capacity for pain and our capacity for joy The "grief spiel" and the surprising way it can change your relationships Who you become when loss changes your sense of identity How a marriage survives when two people grieve the same loss differently Sex and intimacy after devastating loss, and why we need to talk about it The complicated relationship between guilt and love How rituals can help us carry what cannot be fixed The decision Ruby made before the crash that would take on extraordinary meaning years later What it means to become a parent again after losing your children Don't forget to follow Colin Campbell and check out his book, Finding the Words: Working Through Profound Loss with Hope and Purpose. You can find more of his work, including his acclaimed solo show Grief: A One Man ShitShow, on his website or by following him on Instagram. And if you're looking for support, connection, or a place to feel less alone, Laura's book, Crying Out Loud: A Path Through Grief Into a Life Reimagined, and The Grief Healing Collective are here for you. If something in this episode spoke to your heart, share your story or send your questions to cryingoutloudpod@gmail.com. None of us are meant to carry this alone.

  5. Aug 20

    Conscious Grieving with Claire Bidwell

    Most of us are so afraid of grief that we push it away without even realizing we're doing it. We ignore it, stifle it, cover it up, and tell ourselves we're moving on. But loss doesn't ask for permission. It happens to us, whether we're ready for it or not, and when someone we love dies, it can leave us feeling like we've lost all control. But here's something we don't talk about enough: We still have a say in how we grieve.  We can choose to show up for the grief instead of running from it, ask for support instead of carrying it alone, and slowly find our footing again. And sometimes, that small sense of agency can change the way we live with the loss. Claire Bidwell Smith has spent her career teaching other people exactly how to do that. As a licensed therapist, a hospice clinician, and the author of five books, including Conscious Grieving and Anxiety: The Missing Stage of Grief, she has sat across from thousands of grievers and helped them make sense of the chaos loss leaves behind.  In this episode of Crying Out Loud, Claire and I talk about what she calls conscious grieving: choosing to lean into loss with awareness instead of pushing it down or performing "fine" for everyone watching. We talk about why the body holds onto grief long after the mind tries to move on, why anxiety after loss is so often grief that never found anywhere else to go, and why guilt so often shows up dressed as love. We also talk about the things people don't say out loud. The room you can't walk into. The phone you can't bring yourself to open. The way grief doesn't get smaller with time so much as it gets folded into who you become. There's a moment in this conversation where Claire and I realize we've both made the same choice, refusing to open the phone that belonged to the person we lost. Neither of us could fully explain it in the moment. We didn't need to. Some things grievers just understand about each other. If you have ever felt like grief turned you into a stranger in your own body, if you've carried guilt you couldn't quite explain, or if there's a room in your life you still can't bring yourself to enter, this conversation will meet you exactly where you are.  In this episode, we discuss: What conscious grieving actually means, and how it differs from the grief we're taught to hide Why anxiety, panic, and physical symptoms are so often grief in disguise The neuroscience of "grief brain" and why your memory, sleep, and focus all take a hit The hidden intersection between grief and hormonal shifts like perimenopause Why guilt can become a way of staying close to the person you lost The difference between honoring someone and punishing yourself in their name Why some rooms, some drawers, some phones take years to face, and why that's not wrong Simple tools for calming an anxious body in the middle of a spiral, including breathwork and grief writing Claire's own path from skepticism to a continued, evolving relationship with her mother What it means to keep talking to someone after they're gone, and why so many grievers already do Why healing was never about leaving anyone behind Don't forget to follow Claire Bidwell Smith and check out her books, including Conscious Grieving and Anxiety: The Missing Stage of Grief. You can find more of her work on her website. And if you're looking for support, connection, or a place to feel less alone, my book, Crying Out Loud: A Path Through Grief Into a Life Reimagined, and The Grief Healing Collective are here for you. If something in this episode spoke to your heart, share your story or send your questions to cryingoutloudpod@gmail.com. None of us are meant to carry this alone.

  6. Aug 13

    The Profound Lessons a Trauma Therapist Learned About Loss When Facing Her Own with Meghan Riordan Jarvis

    When you lose someone you love, every loss asks something different of you. One goodbye can leave you heartbroken but standing. The next can bring your whole world to a stop. Sometimes grief gives you months to prepare, convincing you that you'll know how to survive what's coming. Other times, it arrives without warning, turning an ordinary day into the day your life is divided into before and after. And sometimes, even if you're a therapist who's spent years helping others through loss, you discover that the very tools you've relied on for decades can suddenly feel helpless in the face of your own grief.  Meghan Riordan Jarvis knows that firsthand. She is a trauma therapist with more than 20 years of experience and the author of Can Anyone Tell Me? A book born from the questions grieving people ask every day but rarely receive honest answers to. Instead of treating grief as something to fix or get over, Meghan explores what it actually does to our bodies, our minds, and our relationships, offering the kind of validation so many people never receive. Her understanding of grief changed through two very different losses. In 2017, Meghan's father died after a year-long illness. She describes those final months as watching him grow smaller, weekend after weekend, until he was gone. It was heartbreaking, but it felt like the kind of grief she had spent her career helping others navigate. Two years later, everything changed. While they were on vacation together, Megan's mother died suddenly. The loss shattered every assumption she had about grief, including her own. A relentless voice began telling her it was her fault. What started as an intrusive thought became constant rumination, repeating so often that she recognized she was no longer coping. Eventually, she checked herself into the same inpatient treatment program where she had once referred her hardest clients, those whose grief and trauma required more intensive treatment.  In this episode of Crying Out Loud, Meghan and I talk about what happened when her professional knowledge could no longer protect her, and what she learned after experiencing grief from the inside instead of the therapist's chair. We explore why grief can disrupt memory, sleep, concentration, and appetite for much longer than most people expect, and why those reactions are part of how the brain responds to profound loss. In this episode, we discuss: What grief does to the brain and why memory, sleep, and concentration are often affected Why brain fog is a normal response to loss, not a sign that you're falling apart The role anger plays in protecting us from overwhelming sadness Simple practices that help calm a nervous system under stress The thoughts so many grieving people experience but are afraid to say out loud What Meghan discovered at the deepest point of her grief, and how it reshaped the way she lives and helps others If this conversation resonates with you, pick up a copy of Meghan's Can Anyone Tell Me? and visit her website or connect with her on Instagram for classes, guidance, and other grief resources. And if you're looking for more support, you'll find it in my book, Crying Out Loud: A Path Through Grief Into a Life Reimagined, and inside The Grief Healing Collective. I'd also love to hear your thoughts on this episode. You can reach me anytime at cryingoutloudpod@gmail.com.

  7. Aug 6

    Renegade Grief with Carla Fernandez

    Grief has a way of making everyone else uncomfortable. After the funeral, the messages slow down. A few days later, people expect life to carry on as if nothing happened. You're back at work. You stop bringing up the person who died because it feels like everyone else has already moved on. But you haven't. The truth is, life never goes back to what it was after losing someone you love. Carla Fernandez has spent years challenging that way of thinking. She is the author of Renegade Grief and co-founder of The Dinner Party, a community that has supported more than 20,000 young adults after the death of someone they love. Her work has helped reshape how a generation thinks about loss, replacing isolation with connection and making grief something people can share instead of hide. In this episode of Crying Out Loud, I sit down with Carla to talk about what she calls renegade grief: choosing to grieve honestly in a culture that would rather you keep your pain quiet. Together, we explore what happens when we stop trying to "move on" and start making room for grief instead. We talk about creating new rituals, building altars, taking grief pilgrimages, holding onto continuing bonds with the people we've lost, and why healing doesn't mean leaving someone behind. This conversation isn't about fixing grief or making it disappear. It's about permitting yourself to grieve in a way that feels true to you and remembering that you never have to carry it alone. How Western culture became wired to avoid grief, and why the myth of “closure” is so damaging The truth about Freud’s theories on grief, and how even he changed his mind after his own loss Why connection with other grievers can be the most powerful catalyst for healing. How rituals and creativity emerge naturally from our longing to honor and remember Simple, deeply personal ways to keep bonds alive: altars, “grief quests,” and everyday practices that create meaning The immense value of finding (or becoming) a “grief ally,” and why your support may change another’s entire experience The misunderstood line between helping others and bypassing your own pain, and how to find a healthy balance How metaphysical beliefs, neuroscience, and cultural rituals intersect in the ongoing relationship we have with those we grieve This one isn't about getting past your grief. It's about what happens the moment you stop trying to. Find Carla's book, Renegade Grief (recently out in paperback)  You don't have to carry this alone. My book, Crying Out Loud: A Path Through Grief Into a Life Reimagined, and The Grief Healing Collective are both here if you need them. And if something in this episode moved you, tell me at  cryingoutloudpod@gmail.com. Press play. You'll never set the table the same way again.

  8. Jul 30

    The Myth of Closure: Ambiguous with Dr. Pauline Boss

    Some losses come with a funeral. People bring food. They hug you. They say, "I'm so sorry for your loss." Some rituals help you begin to make sense of what has happened. But some losses don't look like loss at all. They're the kind that keep you awake at night, staring at your phone, wondering if it will ring. They're the kind where your child is still alive, but addiction has taken so much of who they used to be. Or where your husband or wife still sits across from you at the dinner table, but Alzheimer's has slowly stolen the person you spent your life building memories with. You find yourself missing someone who is still here. You keep hoping that tomorrow will be different. That they'll come back to you. That you'll hear their laugh again, see that familiar spark in their eyes, have one more conversation that feels like the old days. And because they're still alive, people don't always see your grief. There's no funeral. No obituary. No clear moment when everyone agrees your life has changed forever. You're left carrying heartbreak that has no ceremony, no roadmap, and often, no words. You're grieving someone who hasn't died, and at the same time, you're holding onto hope that maybe you haven't lost them completely. For more than fifty years, my guest in this episode has been giving that experience a name. Dr. Pauline Boss is a family therapist, researcher, and professor emerita at the University of Minnesota. She coined the term ambiguous loss, a concept that changed how we understand grief without an ending. It began with her research on the wives of soldiers missing in Vietnam, and it has since become the framework millions turn to for the losses that don't come with a clear before and after: a parent lost to dementia, a child in the grip of addiction, a family torn apart by estrangement, a loved one who simply goes missing. She's the author of several landmark books, including Ambiguous Loss, Loving Someone Who Has Dementia, and her most recent, The Myth of Closure: Ambiguous Loss in a Time of Pandemic and Change. Her most radical idea may be her simplest: closure is a myth. And chasing it may be keeping you from actually healing. In this Language of Love Conversation, I sit down with Dr. Boss to talk about what it means to grieve someone who is still, in some sense, unaccounted for. She walks me through the six pillars she's identified for building a life inside that uncertainty, why "both/and" thinking may be the most freeing shift a grieving person can make, and why the families who cope best are often the ones who stop trying to solve what cannot be solved. I also open up about the night my own son Sammy died, and the lesson my younger son taught me about what it really means to let your children see you grieve. This episode is for anyone carrying a loss the world doesn't have a category for, and anyone ready to stop waiting for an ending that isn't coming so they can start living again. What ambiguous loss is, and why it can be even harder to carry than a loss with clear finality Why “closure” is a myth, and how to let go of the pressure to find it. How rituals, continuing bonds, and community can transform the lonely experience of ambiguous loss. Why watching someone you love struggle with addiction is its own form of ambiguous loss, and why that recognition can bring real relief Why "both/and" thinking, holding two opposing truths at once, may be the most honest form of coping The six guideposts Dr. Boss has identified for building resilience without closure Why grief and depression are not the same thing, and why that distinction matters How to memorialize someone when there's no grave, no headstone, and no clear ending How to support children through ambiguous loss What decades of working with the most unimaginable losses have taught Dr. Boss about the human spirit To learn more about Dr. Pauline Boss and her work, visit her website, where you'll find her books, including The Myth of Closure and Ambiguous Loss, along with resources for families and professionals navigating loss without resolution. If you are moving through grief, heartbreak, or a season of profound change, you do not have to carry it alone. Make sure to read my book, Crying Out Loud: A Path Through Grief Into a Life Reimagined. Also, The Grief Healing Collective offers support, connection, and a community that understands what it means to rebuild a life after loss. If something in this conversation moved you, reach out at cryingoutloudpod@gmail.com. Healing does not happen in isolation. It happens in moments like this one.

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Crying Out Loud is a grief companion for anyone carrying loss. Hosted by Dr. Laura Berman, bestselling author, therapist, and grieving mother, the show blends clinical guidance with spiritual insight to support healing on every level. Each week features conversations with experts, healers and mediums to help regulate your nervous system, honor your grief, and explore continued connection with loved ones on the other side. You were never meant to grieve alone. Let’s cry out loud together.

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