The Lights On Podcast

Kin Sio

The Lights On Podcast features conversations with hospitality leaders about the commercial strategies that drive hotel performance and growth.

  1. 11h ago

    Pricing a Hotel When a Government Agency Approves Your Rates With Jennifer Miller

    Jennifer Miller is Director of Revenue Management at Guest Services, Inc., a hospitality company more than 100 years old. She has been in hospitality for almost 35 years, starting at the front desk of a Radisson on Marco Island, Florida, and has spent 21 years with Guest Services. She served as General Manager from 2013 to 2015, overseeing several communities and a condo-style hotel in the Orlando market, then as Revenue Manager for the Hospitality Division through 2020, and moved into her current role in February 2020. She holds the CRME designation from HSMAI and a BA in English from Marietta College. In this episode… What does revenue management look like when a government agency has the final say on your rates? Jennifer Miller, Director of Revenue Management at Guest Services, Inc., joins Kin Sio live on the floor at the Independent Hotel Show Miami to answer exactly that question. With more than twenty years at Guest Services and a portfolio that spans national and state park lodging, camping, glamping, houseboats, and boat tours, Jennifer brings a perspective that very few revenue managers can offer. The conversation covers what it really means to price a property like Flamingo Lodge, the lodge at Flamingo in Everglades National Park, when your comp set has to stretch to Homestead, Florida City, and the Upper Keys just to find a reference point. Jennifer is candid about the tension between leaving money on the table and honoring the parks' mandate to keep lodging accessible and fairly priced for the public. She also digs into the technology challenge behind it all: how her call center agents juggle a hotel PMS, activity software, call software, a knowledge base, chat, and email simultaneously, and why connecting all of that into a single guest picture remains the hardest unsolved problem in her operation. For independent hotel operators, the takeaway is practical. You do not need a national park contract to start thinking about the full value of a guest. Jennifer's advice is simple: get a technology in place that lets you communicate with guests before arrival and offer small add-ons, start with what you can actually execute operationally, and treat ancillary revenue as smart business rather than an upsell exercise. As she puts it, selling $20 of wine is much easier than selling a room that is $20 more expensive.

  2. 5d ago

    She Runs a Boutique Hotel With Nobody at the Front Desk With Kim Herrlein

    Kim Herrlein is the Chief Leisure Officer of Purveyors of Leisure and co-creator of The Fainting Couch, an 18-room maximalist boutique hotel in Northern California. She sold a high-performing vacation rental to fund the property's acquisition, then renovated it and built an operating model that runs with no on-site front desk staff. Before hospitality, she produced festivals in the Feather River Canyon and trained as a coach through the Stanford-rooted Creative Insight Journey. She is also the founder of Insight Seeker: Impact by Design, where she helps entrepreneurs move from living by default to deciding by design. In this episode… Kim Herrlein shares her journey from short-term rental operator to boutique hotel owner, revealing how she sold a high-performing vacation rental to fund the acquisition of The Fainting Couch, a maximalist boutique hotel in Northern California. As Chief Leisure Officer of Purveyors of Leisure and founder of Insight Seeker: Impact by Design, Kim brings a unique perspective to hospitality operations, running her property with zero on-site front desk staff using virtual reception technology. The conversation explores the challenges and opportunities that come with transitioning from the STR world to licensed hotel operations, including the complexities of OTA distribution, the evolution of contactless hospitality, and the power of design as a demand generation strategy. Kim also introduces her Golden Thread Spiral framework, a decision-making tool that helps entrepreneurs move from living by default to deciding by design.

  3. Oct 13

    Why Hotel Restaurants Don't Have to Lose Money With Andrew Hopson

    Andrew Hopson is the Dining Room Manager at The Inn on Biltmore Estate, the Forbes Four-Star hotel in Asheville, North Carolina. His path in food and beverage began with pre-high school admission to Johnson & Wales University's Charleston campus in culinary arts, and an internship at Charleston Place Hotel drew him into hotels. He has since led F&B across full-service premium and luxury properties, including the Forbes Five-Star Sea Island resort in Georgia. Andrew serves on the International Luxury Hotel Association's advisory council, has moderated panels at BDNY and INSPIRE, and advocates for hospitality professionals to engage in policy at the local, state and national level. In this episode… Andrew Hopson, Dining Room Manager at The Inn on Biltmore Estate, joins Kin Sio live at the Independent Hotel Show in Miami for a conversation that covers the full arc of hotel food and beverage, from philosophy to people. Andrew draws on more than fifteen years in hotel F&B, including his current role at the Forbes Four-Star Inn on Biltmore Estate, to talk about what it takes to build a dining program that actually means something to guests. The conversation moves through two interlocking ideas. The first is that F&B identity has to come before operations, marketing, or hiring, if a hotel doesn't know what it is, no amount of staffing or menu work will fix the experience. The second is that hiring great people is only half the equation. If a property's leadership and training infrastructure isn't ready to support a new team member, bringing them on is a disservice to everyone involved, including the candidate. Andrew also shares what pulled him back into the hotel industry after a period away, and why conferences like the Independent Hotel Show matter not just for vendor relationships but for the peer-to-peer learning that happens on the floor. His perspective is grounded in real decisions made in real dining rooms, and his advice is built for operators who are trying to do more with less.

  4. Oct 8

    Your Hotel Doesn't Need Lower Rates, It Needs a Reason To Pay More With Laurean Sahilices

    Laurean Sahilices is the founder of The Hotel Marketing Lady and a strategic hospitality advisor with more than fifteen years of experience leading marketing across global hotel brands, including IHG, Accor, Marriott, and Minor Hotels, across the Maldives and New Zealand. She marketed New Zealand's first JW Marriott while the property was still under renovation. Today she works with independent and boutique hotel owners looking to expand, reposition, or strengthen their marketing, aligning positioning, guest strategy, and commercial direction to support higher average daily rates. In this episode… Kin Sio sits down with Laurean Sahilices, founder of The Hotel Marketing Lady, to talk about what it actually takes to build a hotel marketing strategy that drives revenue, not just impressions. Laurean spent more than fifteen years inside global brands including IHG, Accor, Marriott, and Minor Hotels across New Zealand and the Maldives before launching her own advisory practice for boutique and independent hotel owners. The conversation covers the gap between big-brand structure and the flexibility independents already have, and why most hotels waste that advantage by skipping the commercial foundations. The episode goes deep on a real example from Laurean's time at JW Marriott Auckland: how her team turned a tired, dated residence, in the middle of a major renovation, into a sought-after Christmas suite by partnering with a local interior design company, curating a full experience, and driving media impressions across New Zealand and Australia. The story illustrates the central idea running through the whole conversation: that marketing without a clear commercial goal is just spending money on activity, and that the real job of a hotel marketer is to reverse-engineer the guest experience back from a rate target. Laurean is also clear about the limits of her own lane. She draws a firm line between positioning and marketing strategy, which she owns, and revenue management and sales, which require different skill sets. For independent owners trying to build a commercial engine with limited budget and no full team, her advice is direct: know what you are trying to achieve first, get clarity on what makes your property unique, and resist the urge to fill rooms with cheap rates in year one, because that decision trains your market and it is very hard to undo.

  5. Oct 1

    A Good Hotel Is Not a Full Hotel With Jan Freitag

    Jan Freitag is the National Director of Hospitality Analytics at CoStar Group, a global leader in commercial real estate information, analytics, and online marketplaces. He is a recognized hospitality data expert and works with CoStar's STR platform, whose benchmarking reports are widely used by hotel owners, operators, and investors to measure performance. Jan is a sought-after speaker and is frequently quoted by outlets including The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, Bloomberg, and Forbes. He holds a bachelor's degree from Cornell University's School of Hotel Administration and an executive MBA from Vanderbilt University. In this episode… Is a full hotel a good hotel? Not necessarily. Jan Freitag, National Director of Hospitality Market Analytics at CoStar Group, argues that a good hotel is a profitable hotel. Selling another room means another room to clean, staff, and maintain, while raising a $100 room to $110 turns that extra $10 into almost pure profit. Kin Sio sits down with Jan on The Lights On Podcast to break down how hotel owners can read STR data, benchmark against a comp set, and use forward-looking numbers to price with more confidence. Jan starts with the basics, which he sums up as: we collect three numbers and we make three numbers. Hotels report supply (rooms available), demand (rooms sold), and rooms revenue for every day. STR turns those into occupancy, ADR, and RevPAR, and occupancy times ADR equals RevPAR. His advice for a new owner is to start with RevPAR against the same time last year, then work out whether the change came from occupancy or rate. The data gets really actionable once a comp set is added: if your RevPAR went up 4% and your competitors' went up 7%, you now have a question worth digging into. That is the conversation Jan says happens every Wednesday morning at 10 a.m. at nearly every branded hotel in America, with the revenue manager, head of marketing, GM, and maybe the head of front office in the room. The occupancy trap is common among owners who come to hotels from residential real estate, where the goal is always to minimize vacancy. Kin points out that running at 90% plus brings more labor and wear on the property, while managing occupancy closer to 80 or 85% may let you charge a higher rate and make the same RevPAR with less work, if the property is worth it. Jan adds that some GMs deliberately target 73% to 75% occupancy, because that is where they can deliver the best guest experience, with short lines at the front desk and the buffet, and charge a little more. From there the conversation moves from top line to bottom line. With inflation running higher for longer and room rate growth often below CPI, Jan says operators are focused on the middle of the P&L. CoStar is now asking hotels for their full P&L, following USALI (the Uniform System of Accounts for the Lodging Industry), so owners can benchmark against their market and eventually their competitors. Participation is never really a trust issue, he says, after nearly 40 years (since 1988) of keeping data confidential. The holdup, in Jan's experience, is whether a hotel's own systems can extract the data. The last stretch covers how to use backward-looking data to plan ahead. Jan's colleague Isaac compares each year to one where the calendar lines up almost exactly (everything but the Jewish holidays), and 2015 is the comp year for 2026. CoStar's Forward STAR collects occupancy on the books up to 365 days out, and Jan says the 90, 60, and 30 day windows are the useful ones, especially compared with where you stood at the same point last year. For hotels without obvious neighbors, he suggests asking guests where they would be if they were not staying with you, then building a comp set around the customer's view rather than a map. He closes with a soccer metaphor from the World Cup: one or two stars up front score the goals, but the whole team has to move together, and the GM is the coach who makes that happen.

  6. Sep 24

    The #1 Revenue Mistake Hotels Make Every Single Day With Brian Reising

    Brian Reising is the Market Vice President for the US and Latin America at SiteMinder, the world's leading hotel commerce platform that helps hotels reach more guests, manage booking channels, and optimize revenue. SiteMinder serves 56,000 hotels across 150 countries, connects properties to more than 450 distribution channels, and facilitates around 140 million reservations annually. Brian helps hoteliers navigate changing traveler demand and increasingly complex distribution strategies. He brings a unique perspective to hospitality, having transitioned into the industry after a career in manufacturing and healthcare technology. In this episode… What is the most expensive revenue mistake a hotel can make? Leaving rates untouched. That is the answer Brian Reising, Market Vice President for the US and Latin America at SiteMinder, gave host Kin Sio on The Lights On Podcast. Moving a rate up or down by $5, $10, or $20 as occupancy and local events shift is, in Brian's words, the difference between a successful year with an increase in revenue and a standard year with no increase. Brian came into hospitality from the outside, after early years in engineering and a stretch in healthcare technology. What he found was a tech landscape far more fragmented than he expected, with early adopters gluing systems together to get a full ecosystem. He also found that nothing about a hotel is standard. Bring in an operator from another industry, he says, and they assume hotels are cookie cutter. They are not. Every property sits in a different market with a different hook, a different distribution mix, and a different tech stack, which is why there is no single right answer to how a hotel should sell its rooms. The practical version of that problem shows up in channel management. Brian says running four OTA connections by hand fails on two fronts. One is time, and independent hoteliers, as he puts it, are some of the busiest people he has ever spoken to in any line of work. The other is information: with no insight into competitor rates or your own performance by channel, pricing is at best a guess. SiteMinder's answer is one dashboard for rates across every connected channel with competitor and channel performance data attached, plus Channels Plus, which sets up and manages the OTA connections and handles the payments. Brian notes that hotels on SiteMinder Pay can be paid in about three days rather than waiting the usual 30 for an OTA to remit. On direct versus OTA, Brian does not pick a side. Most hotels need a mix. A good website and booking engine only takes you so far, because the OTAs are where most travelers still start looking, and ignoring either side leaves money behind. He talks to operators who use Booking.com as their booking engine and nothing else, and who miss the repeat guest revenue that comes from bringing those travelers back direct. On rate parity his advice is blunt: know what you are signing before you sign it. Legacy OTA contracts often made parity a requirement, some hotels now refuse to sign it, and where parity stays, you differentiate on value instead of price with free breakfast, late checkout, a larger room, or adjoining rooms. Kin adds the billboard effect on top: travelers who discover a hotel on an OTA will often check the hotel's own site before booking, which is exactly where those direct perks earn their keep. The blind spot Brian sees most in SiteMinder's data has nothing to do with price. It is guest origin. In one study, a small cohort of hotels was pulling a lot of guests from Brazil. Widen the view and other properties inside that same comp set were getting none, because of the specific channels they were using. He is careful to say other factors were probably involved too, but those hotels simply were not visible to travelers in Brazil, and an entire source market went to someone else. Knowing where guests come from, and then knowing how to keep them, is the piece he says most hoteliers have no visibility into. SiteMinder's newest product, Dynamic Revenue Plus, is built on three pillars: the events coming to your area, what your comp set is charging, and the rate setting itself, either as suggestions you approve or as changes the system makes for you. Brian's caution is about expectations. The AI needs time with your pricing style and the events in your area before its recommendations are worth acting on. Until it has that data set, in his words, "we're not any better than guessing." That is where adoption usually breaks. Kin's version of the same point: software you buy and never drive is a Lamborghini parked in the garage. Brian's rule is simple. The more involved you are in the technology, the more successful you are going to be with it, which means asking questions and using the onboarding and maximization sessions rather than buying a product, ignoring it, and concluding it was not right for you. Kin's addition is to settle ownership before you buy: decide who on the team will operate the tool, and hold that person accountable for learning it, because it is unlikely to be the owner with 17 other things on the daily list. Looking ahead, Brian expects AI assistants to keep reshaping discovery. He did not have a figure to hand, but says the share of bookings coming directly from AI search engines like ChatGPT and Claude is increasing, and that SiteMinder has already connected to MCP, the route into ChatGPT. Guests are describing the exact trip they want instead of typing best hotel in Waikiki, which Kin argues is an opening for smaller properties. AI pulls from OTA listings, Reddit threads, social posts, and LinkedIn, not only your website, and it returns two or three recommendations instead of ten blue links. Being present in more places is now the difference between making that short list and being left off it.

  7. Sep 17

    Your Group Inquiries Don't Need a Salesperson, They Need an Answer With Mina Singson-Brightman

    Mina Singson-Brightman is the Co-founder and CEO of HotelBlock.ai, an AI-powered platform helping hotels respond to group inquiries faster, automate repetitive sales tasks, and convert more group business. HotelBlock.ai was selected for Plug and Play's Travel & Hospitality Batch 21, building on Mina's experience with 40hammocks, which participated in the Techstars Atlanta program in 2024. Before launching HotelBlock.ai, Mina built 40hammocks and ran destination event planning businesses in Hawaii, bringing hands-on hospitality and events expertise to her technology ventures. In this episode… A group inquiry is worth the most in the hour it arrives. Hotels lose that business because a lean sales team cannot get to the inbox, not because the rate was wrong. The fix is to automate lead intake, qualification, proposal drafting, and follow-up so an answer goes out in seconds, which leaves the salesperson free to do the relationship work that actually closes. Kin Sio sits down with Mina Singson-Brightman, Co-founder and CEO of HotelBlock.ai, on The Lights On Podcast to walk through how that works. Mina did not plan a career in hospitality. She came to the US from the Philippines, studied at the University of Southern California, and worked as a business broker buying and selling businesses in LA. When she and her husband moved to Hawaii she came across a destination events company and bought into it, which is how she landed in the events industry. She describes the whole path as serendipity, one step leading to the next. Running that business for close to a decade, she heard the same request over and over. Groups coming to Hawaii for a wedding or a retreat needed 20 rooms, or 50, did not know the market, and asked her to connect them with hotels. Event coordinators are not travel agents, so the honest answer was a few suggestions and a recommendation to do their own research. The gap was obvious enough that she built 40hammocks, a mobile app connecting group travelers directly to hotels, while still running the events company so she could test it on live customers. The idea was conceptualized during COVID, when Hawaii's restrictions were strict enough to ticket people for coming within 10 feet of each other and the events industry stopped. Rather than wait it out, she went back to the problems she had been hearing and started building. Crisis awakens creativity, as she puts it. The pivot came from a complaint that turned out to be misdirected. App users compared the experience to booking a normal hotel room online, where pricing appears instantly, and blamed the app when quotes took days. It was not the app. HotelBlock was waiting on hotels, who had to confirm availability for 20 rooms before they could price anything. When Mina went back to her hotel partners and asked what would make the process faster, she found the real bottleneck sitting inside the property. One sales manager told her at three in the afternoon that she had not opened her email that day, having been in trainings, meetings, and phone calls, while two leads sat waiting. Smaller hotels feel this more sharply than convention properties, because one or two salespeople absorb every task. That discovery turned a consumer marketplace into a hotel-side product, and HotelBlock.ai evolved out of 40hammocks. What the platform does is map the group sales journey and remove the manual steps. Inquiries from a hotel's website or email are ingested and organized into a pipeline with no retyping into a CRM. The system qualifies each lead against the property's own parameters, minimum nights and minimum rooms, and when a lead qualifies it drafts the proposal automatically. Teams can review before sending or let it go out untouched, and follow-ups continue on their own until the prospect replies. Because it is cloud-based, one customer pulled up a drafted proposal on a phone during a live sales meeting and presented it on the spot instead of promising to get back to the planner the next day. Mina is firm that none of this is about headcount. Hospitality runs on relationships, and a salesperson who can turn a proposal around instantly is a salesperson who should be out having lunch with meeting planners rather than sitting at a computer. Against Cvent and Delphi she does not argue features, she argues that those are enterprise products priced and scoped beyond many independents, while HotelBlock aims to be running the same day rather than after days of training. For operators who have never worked groups deliberately, Mina's starting argument is that the room block is the smaller half of the opportunity. She cites a study putting group business at up to 50% more revenue for hotels, not from rooms but from ancillary services, on the logic that a block of guests fills the restaurant and the spa. Group demand is also steadier than transient. Weddings and reunions are booked far in advance and rarely cancel, and her own evidence is COVID: she expected the events business to be wiped out and kept 80% of it, because people held on and gathered later. Kin frames that against what Lights On sees in revenue mix, where independent properties lean heavily on transient OTA business and booking windows in Hawaii have compressed from the classic 45 to 60 days to something far harder to forecast. Group business booked months out is what makes the remaining inventory a pricing decision instead of a scramble.

  8. Sep 10

    The Only Real Estate Whose Value Changes Every Morning With Neil Shah

    Neil Shah is the President and Founder of Inntech Management, a hotel ownership and management company operating 10 properties across Arizona and California. With more than 25 years of hospitality experience, he has grown his portfolio through strategic acquisitions, operational improvements, and property repositioning. Neil is also the Founder of InnTrend AI, a hotel intelligence platform that streamlines portfolio reporting and highlights performance trends. His hands-on operating experience and entrepreneurial mindset shape his approach to driving hotel revenue, guest experience, and long-term asset value.  In this episode… Most real estate changes value on a market cycle. A hotel can change value on a Tuesday. Neil Shah has built a career inside that difference, which is why he describes hotels as one of the only real estate assets where the value of the property can change based on the decisions you make every morning. In this episode of The Lights On Podcast, host Kin Sio talks with Neil Shah, President and Founder of Inntech Management, about growing from a single Best Western to a portfolio of 10 hotels across Arizona and California, and how operational repositioning, disciplined refinancing, and daily portfolio data compound into forced appreciation. Neil arrived in the US from India in 1997 with an electrical engineering degree and no appetite for four more years of college plus another six to eight years of employment before he could start a business. He took a job at an independent hotel in Anaheim owned by his uncle's friends. He had never stayed in a hotel before he started working in one. Because he had no experience, he was hired with no title, which in practice meant housekeeping, maintenance, front desk, night audit, and late night calls. He lived in the hotel's rooms with two bags of clothes, went to college at the same time, and later added a degree in hotel management. He now describes the missing title as the best learning of his life, because it put him in every department instead of on a ladder. Ownership came out of a side hustle. Neil left California for a general manager job in Flagstaff, Arizona, on a $34,000 salary, at a group that owned 17 hotels. He had taught himself web design during the quiet hours in Anaheim, and he landed the contract to build all 17 of those websites, working evenings and nights on top of the GM role. The contract produced $20,000, money that would have taken years to save on the salary. When a friend introduced him to a group buying a Best Western in Flagstaff, he asked to invest, put in all $20,000, and became a partner. Then came the part most people skip. In 2004 the partnership bought a Best Western in Tucson for $2.6 million, and Neil moved his family into the hotel apartment for the first five years. From 2004 to 2014 he ran that single property, learning revenue management, marketing, and how brand programs actually work, and operating it with the question of how he would duplicate the process across a second, third, and fifth hotel. He doubled its revenue in the first three years, which nearly doubled NOI and moved the valuation with it. Across the last five of those years his team looked at deals and said no to nearly all of them. His reasoning is blunt: these are multi-million dollar decisions carrying other people's money, so you have to say no more than yes. The deal that ended the wait was in Sedona in 2015, at $6.2 million for 45 rooms, roughly $130 a key and more than double anything he had bought before. What made it workable was that everything wrong with it was operational. The owner lived in California and ran the property remotely, carried a soft brand he did not like and refused to use the brand's programs, cut corners until cleaning and reviews suffered, set flat weekday and weekend rates with a two-night minimum every Saturday of the year, and ran nine room types across 45 rooms. The building itself had been renovated a year or two earlier, so no capital was needed to fix it. It was doing about $900,000 a year at purchase. By 2018 it did $1.8 million, and it was profitable from year one. The financing is where the portfolio compounded. Neil runs the BRRRR approach, buy, rehab, rent, refinance, repeat, at hotel scale. The Tucson Best Western was refinanced in 2014, and those funds bought the first and then the second Sedona property. Cash flow from both funded what came next, and a 2018 cash-out refinance on the first Sedona hotel returned 100 percent of the original investor capital. His stated goal for investors is a position of infinite return, which he says the portfolio has reached in most cases. Timing carries the discipline: refinance when the property is financially ripe, and only accept a higher rate when the capital is going into something that returns 15, 20, or 30 percent. Concentration created a problem he did not see coming. With six hotels in Sedona, Neil found himself asking whether a rate change on one was stealing from another. The answer was a separate guest avatar per property. Southwest Inn, at 28 rooms with handmade headboards and nightstands in every room, goes after affluent wellness travelers at the top of the rate range. Arroyo Pinion, at 45 rooms with more double-bed rooms, cabanas, a fire pit, and views, targets wellness groups and some families. Green Tree Inn, at 66 rooms, is too big to define narrowly and takes adventurers, families, hikers, and sightseers. Arroyo Pinion is now mid-repositioning into wellness, with 10 wellness rooms finished and public spaces converting into a salt room, red light therapy, a relaxation room, sauna, and cold plunge. The guest room renovation alone has already moved ADR up $30, before a single amenity opens. Neil's test for any repositioning is whether it changes your comp set. If you are not replacing some of your comp set with higher level properties, the repositioning will not return what the property deserves. The reporting problem produced a product. Neil's portfolio runs three PMS systems, because brands dictate the stack on branded and soft-branded hotels and he only controls it on the independents. Every morning he and his team logged into each system, ran different reports, and reconstructed the previous day. A manual spreadsheet built by a VA fixed the time cost and introduced human error, the kind he would only catch when it was large enough to notice. So he built it properly with his nephew, who was finishing a master's in computer science. The dashboard, called Portfolio Pulse, started by parsing the night audit reports the PMS systems emailed out, and over the last eight months moved to direct API connections. He now checks rooms sold, ADR, occupancy, month to date, year to date, reservations, cancellations, group cancellations, and the next three months from his phone, measured against both same time last year and budget. While other markets are soft, he says his portfolio is ahead of last year and beating budget in most cases. That system became InnTrend AI, with morning alerts and a conversational layer over the data on the roadmap.

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The Lights On Podcast features conversations with hospitality leaders about the commercial strategies that drive hotel performance and growth.