Jolene's Podcast

Jolene Gaudet

Jolene’s Podcast - Drive Beyond Measure - raises questions, challenges assumptions, and looks more closely at what helps humans succeed. Drawing on 25 years in education, education designer and Truer Measure founder Jolene Gaudet explores ideas, research, and perspectives through short solo episodes and longer conversations with guests from education and beyond. As AI changes what’s possible, what does it mean for a human to succeed? Created with parents in mind, but for anyone curious about human potential. Because there’s always more to the story than what we measure.

  1. Jun 20

    Drive it Home - The Environment Was Always the Variable

    You probably say you value curiosity. Your rubric might say something different. This season finale is about the gap between what you believe you're asking and what your environment actually records, and why your most strategic students already know the answer. Season 1 closer... See you in the fall...

  2. Jun 20

    Drive to Work - The Environment Was Always the Variable

    You probably say you value curiosity. Your rubric might say something different. This season finale is about the gap between what you believe you're asking and what your environment actually records, and why your most strategic students already know the answer. Season 1 closer... See you in the fall...

  3. Jun 18

    Drive it Home - You Optimized for a Path That's Shifting

    You built your career by learning to move well inside a system: the right credentials, the right signals, the right moments. Now you're applying that same logic to your child's education, and it made sense when you walked that path. This episode is about the one capacity that doesn't appear on any report card, but outperforms every credential when the landscape shifts: the ability to enter unfamiliar territory and figure it out. This episode draws in part on research in: Productive failure and what struggle builds: Kapur, M. (2016)Desirable difficulties and durable learning: Bjork, R.A. & Bjork, E.L. (2011)Self-efficacy built through mastery experience rather than external scaffolding: Bandura, A. (1997)Education, credentials, and the evolving labor market: Goldin, C. & Katz, L.F. (2008)Over-parenting and its effects on readiness for independent challenge: Bradley-Geist, J.C. & Olson-Buchanan, J.B. (2014)Technology, automation, and the future of human work: Brynjolfsson, E. & McAfee, A. (2014)

  4. Jun 18

    Drive to Work - The Goal Has Changed, the Curriculum Hasn't

    Most lesson plans are built around what students should know. The question they almost never ask is what students should be able to do when there's no rubric, no right answer yet, and that gap is showing up everywhere AI is accelerating change. This episode is about the one layer every lesson plan is missing: the muscle of learning how to learn, and the question that builds it. This episode draws in part on research in: Metacognition and self-monitoring in learning: Flavell, J.H. (1979)Self-regulated learning as a transferable skill: Zimmerman, B.J. (2002)How transfer of learning works across contexts: Bransford, J.D., Brown, A.L. & Cocking, R.R. (2000)High-effect metacognitive strategies in classroom settings: Hattie, J. (2009)Automation and the shifting value of occupational skills: Autor, D.H. (2015)Susceptibility of jobs to computerisation: Frey, C.B. & Osborne, M.A. (2013)

  5. Jun 17

    Drive it Home - Growth Mindset

    Your child didn't decide she wasn't creative: a grade did, a comparison did, sometimes you did, casually, in passing. This episode is about the story you carry about yourself and how it becomes the first model your child works from. The ceiling you walk under is the one they think is normal. This episode draws in part on research in: How parents' responses to failure — not their beliefs about intelligence — predict whether children develop a fixed or growth mindset (Haimovitz & Dweck, 2016)Intergenerational transmission of math anxiety: parents who are anxious about math and help with homework increase their children's anxiety and reduce their achievement (Maloney, Ramirez, Gunderson, Levine & Beilock, 2015)Observational learning: children acquire beliefs, attitudes, and behavioral patterns by watching significant adults in their lives (Bandura, 1986)Parental praise given to toddlers predicts children's motivational frameworks — growth or fixed — five years later (Gunderson, Gripshover, Romero, Dweck, Goldin-Meadow & Levine, 2013)Expectancy-value theory: how parents' beliefs about their children's competence shape children's own academic self-perceptions (Wigfield & Eccles, 2000)

  6. Jun 17

    Drive to Work - Growth Mindset

    The student who says "I'm not a math person" isn't describing a fact. She's reporting what the room has taught her to believe, through a grade, a comparison, or a comment. This episode is about what growth mindset actually asks of you: the willingness to question conclusions your students made years ago. Which ones can you help rewrite? This episode draws in part on research in: Implicit theories of intelligence and their effects on student motivation and persistence (Dweck & Leggett, 1988)How teacher feedback shapes students' beliefs about whether their abilities are fixed or changeable (Mueller & Dweck, 1998)Academic self-concept formation and its relationship to long-term achievement trajectories (Marsh & Martin, 2011)Teacher expectations as a driver of student performance — the Pygmalion effect (Rosenthal & Jacobson, 1968)Social belonging and its role in shaping academic identity and motivation within school environments (Walton & Cohen, 2007)

  7. Jun 16

    Drive to Work - The Question We Never Ask That Could Change Everything

    Your kid might have the fullest schedule in their class and still have almost no internal sense of who they are because exposure to experiences doesn't build self-knowledge; processing them does. This episode is about the one question that converts a résumé into an identity. Let's talk about what you're actually building. This episode draws in part on research in: Identity formation as a developmental spectrum — from identity achievement to identity diffusion and their long-term outcomes (Marcia, 1966; Luyckx et al., 2008, 2011)Longitudinal associations between identity diffusion in adolescence and anxiety, resilience, and external validation dependence in adulthood (Luyckx, Goossens & Soenens, 2006; Luyckx et al., 2008)Growth-themed autobiographical memory, narrative identity, and psychological coherence (Bauer, McAdams & Sakaeda, 2005)Narrative identity construction and its role in adult well-being and self-direction (McAdams, 2001, 2008)Autonomy development and internal locus of control as predictors of self-directed decision-making (Deci & Ryan, 2000; Rotter, 1966)High-achievement parenting environments and the tension between external performance scaffolding and identity formation (Luthar & Becker, 2002)

  8. Jun 16

    Drive to Work - The Question We Never Ask That Could Change Everything

    You have a student right now who is excellent at school, and who, if asked who they really are, would give you the answer they think you're looking for. This episode unpacks how identity forms in every classroom, whether educators structure it or not, and what one question, asked consistently, actually changes. Let's talk about self-concept and who's really building it. This episode draws in part on research in: Self-concept development in middle childhood — the shift from external to psychological self-description from age 8 onward (Harter, 1999, 2012)Narrative identity and autobiographical coherence as predictors of self-direction and adult meaning-making (McAdams, 2001, 2008)Identity formation statuses and their developmental outcomes — achievement, diffusion, moratorium, foreclosure (Marcia, 1966; Kroger et al., 2010)Growth-themed autobiographical memory and associations with psychological well-being (Bauer, McAdams & Sakaeda, 2005)Contingent self-worth and the effects of externally-sourced validation on identity stability (Crocker & Wolfe, 2001)Reflective practice and metacognitive development in classroom contexts (Zimmerman, 2002; Veenman, Van Hout-Wolters & Afflerbach, 2006)

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Jolene’s Podcast - Drive Beyond Measure - raises questions, challenges assumptions, and looks more closely at what helps humans succeed. Drawing on 25 years in education, education designer and Truer Measure founder Jolene Gaudet explores ideas, research, and perspectives through short solo episodes and longer conversations with guests from education and beyond. As AI changes what’s possible, what does it mean for a human to succeed? Created with parents in mind, but for anyone curious about human potential. Because there’s always more to the story than what we measure.

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  • Creator
    Jolene Gaudet
  • Years Active
    2026
  • Episodes
    143
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