That Witch That Bitch

Katarzyna Perzylo and Brianna Rivera

A podcast about spiritual awakening, intuition, and modern-day witchiness! Hosted by energy workers and witches Kat and Bri, this show dives into intuition, healing, spiritual awakening, and the real-life journey of coming back into your power. Through honest conversations and spiritual insight, they explore what it means to live in alignment, trust your inner knowing, and reconnect with the magic that already lives within you

Episodes

  1. 5d ago

    #9: Van Life, Dating Disasters, and Michael Jackson

    Life on the road, a talking stage flop, and... the King of Pop!? This episode goes everywhere in the best way possible. Bri and Kat are back with the kind of conversation that starts with life on the road in Poland and ends with a full-on theory about why Michael Jackson is still changing culture from beyond the grave. Kat shares what it’s really like living out of a beautifully built van with her friend in Gdańsk, from parking in the middle of the city to the strange freedom of taking home wherever you go. Bri opens up about the possibility of leaving Barcelona and why letting go of a place that once felt like home can feel a lot like a breakup. Then the conversation gets deeper. The two unpack the difference between Western and Eastern European dating culture, why women’s standards shape how men behave, and why safety and consistency matter so much in relationships. Bri also tells a very recent dating story that turns into a masterclass on boundaries, consent, and what happens when someone reacts badly to a simple “not yet.” And just when you think that’s the main event, the episode pivots into a wildly compelling discussion about Michael Jackson, his cultural legacy, and why both hosts feel like he carried something bigger than fame. They connect his music, his message, and his public treatment to themes of love, sacrifice, divine purpose, and the kind of joy that outlives a lifetime. Follow the pod and stay connected! Podcast IG: ⁠⁠⁠@thatwitchthatbitch⁠⁠⁠ Kat’s Coaching IG: ⁠⁠⁠@thesoulfulencounter⁠⁠⁠ Bri’s IG: ⁠⁠⁠@thebriannarivera⁠⁠⁠ Kat’s Substack: ⁠⁠⁠Kat's Substack⁠⁠⁠ Bri’s Substack: ⁠⁠⁠Bri's Substack⁠⁠ Keywords van life, freedom, home, non-attachment, Eastern Europe, gender dynamics, relationships, dating, cultural observations, boundaries, Michael Jackson, intimacy, consent, self-awareness, music, legacy, emotional safety, personal growth

  2. Sep 15

    #8: A Return to Love

    We're SO BACK (And Returning to Love) After an unexpected hiatus, Kat and Bri are reuniting across borders—joining you from Spain and Poland to catch you up on the massive life updates, career resets, and personal shifts they've been navigating. In this catch-up episode, the girls dive deep into what it truly means to walk the middle path. Inspired by Marianne Williamson’s spiritual classic, A Return to Love, they explore how ego, hyper-independence, and the "forceful masculine" can block us from receiving the very love, support, and abundance we crave. From resolving roommate awkwardness with radical, unconditional compassion to overcoming "older sister syndrome" and finally letting family hold space for us, this conversation is an honest, real-time look at choosing love over fear. They also get real about: Breaking the "forced romantic narrative"—including a highly anticipated update on roster candidate Number 5 and how shifting from expectation to ease changed the entire vibe.Balancing the pendulum swing—Kat shares her journey of swinging from burnt-out "girlboss overdrive" to a floating "universe-will-provide fairy," and how she's finally integrating both into a healthy middle ground.Caring for the physical vessel—Why you might not actually need a tarot reading or a chakra alignment at 2:00 AM; sometimes you’re just dehydrated and need a glass of water, a normal meal, and a good night's sleep.Grab your rose quartz, get cozy, and let’s return to love together. Follow the pod and stay connected! Podcast IG: ⁠@thatwitchthatbitch⁠Kat’s Coaching IG: ⁠@thesoulfulencounter⁠Bri’s IG: ⁠@thebriannarivera⁠Kat’s Substack: ⁠Kat's Substack⁠Bri’s Substack: ⁠Bri's Substack⁠

  3. Sep 8

    #7: Bali Update and a Roster

    After Kat’s wild two-month "free trial" side quest in Bali, she and Bri are finally reuniting back on the couch in Barcelona. In this long-awaited catch-up episode, the girls download a massive two years' worth of growth, self-discovery, and spiritual realignments. They dive deep into the magic of "Mama Bali"— including how the island's high frequency coordinates your energy, curates its community, and violently spits out anyone disrespecting local values. Together, they explore the ultimate "Hero's Journey" of returning home, confronting family triggers, and finally overcoming the eldest-daughter trap of trying to carry the entire world on your shoulders. From Bri’s deeply healing homecoming trip to California to Kat’s upcoming integration period in Poland, this conversation is a real-time look at finding comfort in the unknown, honoring your natural cycles, and realizing that we are never truly separated. They also get real about: Trippin' in Gili: Kat shares one of the absolute best experiences of her life— doing psychedelic mushrooms with the "Banana Boys," turning into Ariel the mermaid in the ocean, and losing all concept of her wallet and phone password.Summer Roster vs. Monk Mode: Bri breaks down her legendary (and highly varied) July dating lineup— featuring Ibiza, Argentina, and the complicated, elusive "Number 5"— before flipping a switch straight into a ritual-heavy "monk mode" for August eclipse season.The "One Embryo" Connection: Exploring their uncanny telepathy, how they finish each other's sentences, and the magnetic pull that literally had them randomly sitting on the same street bench here in Barcelona.Grab your coconut water, get cozy, and let's jump back into the portal together. Follow the pod and stay connected! Follow the pod and stay connected! Podcast IG: ⁠⁠⁠@thatwitchthatbitch⁠⁠⁠Kat’s Coaching IG: ⁠⁠⁠@thesoulfulencounter⁠⁠⁠Bri’s IG: ⁠⁠⁠@thebriannarivera⁠⁠⁠Kat’s Substack: ⁠⁠⁠Kat's Substack⁠⁠⁠Bri’s Substack: ⁠⁠⁠Bri's Substack⁠

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A podcast about spiritual awakening, intuition, and modern-day witchiness! Hosted by energy workers and witches Kat and Bri, this show dives into intuition, healing, spiritual awakening, and the real-life journey of coming back into your power. Through honest conversations and spiritual insight, they explore what it means to live in alignment, trust your inner knowing, and reconnect with the magic that already lives within you