Paris, nineteen sixty-nine. Samuel Beckett is sixty-three. He has just been given the Nobel Prize in Literature. Suzanne, his wife, called it a catastrophe. He agreed. He will not go to Stockholm. He will not give a lecture. He has given the money to Trinity College Dublin. He is at his desk in his fourth-floor flat off the Boulevard Saint-Jacques, where he has written most of what he considers finished. His most recent play is called Breath. It is thirty-five seconds long. It contains no actors. He considers it one of his better works. Munich, nineteen forty-eight. Karl Valentin is sixty-five. He is cold. He is hungry. He is thin as a skeleton. Bavaria has forgotten him. His last performance was in a small tavern; the staff locked up while he was still inside, without heat, and he caught the cold he has now. He knows what it will do. He is not entirely displeased. They met once, in nineteen thirty-seven, in the basement of Valentin's failing wax museum in Munich. Valentin led Beckett through his exhibits by flashlight, holding a fur-trimmed toothpick, muttering in Bavarian. Beckett called him "a real quality comedian, exuding depression." That was the seed. Paula brings them back together thirty years later, in a room outside their time. The conversation opens on reduction. Beckett has spent his career removing. Characters, dialogue, plot, scenery, time. What remains at the end of Breath is a mouth in a spotlight, a pile of rubbish, an inhale, a cry, an exhale. The Nobel committee has given him a prize for making less, and he does not know how to accept a prize for less. Valentin has spent his career following. Take a phrase and follow its logic so precisely that it breaks. "It is not the staircase that goes up. We are the ones that go up." Language is lazy; it puts the action in the wrong place. Valentin puts it back. The audience laughs because they realise they have been misplacing verbs their whole lives. Paula recognises what she is looking at. Both men arrive at the same boundary from opposite directions -- Beckett by stripping everything not essential, Valentin by following everything that is. The skeleton and the overstuffed suitcase. Both break at the same wall. Beckett agrees. "Karl breaks language by being too right. I break it by being too honest. The result is the same: a silence that contains more than the words that preceded it." Then Godot and the Bookbinder. Two acts, same tree, same road, same waiting -- and in the second act, the tree has sprouted a few leaves, which is the only change. Pozzo is blind. Lucky is mute. The boy comes back to say Godot will not come today, but tomorrow. And they do not move. In Buchbinder Wanninger, Valentin's bookbinder calls a company with a simple question and is transferred through the entire hierarchy of the firm. Every clerk is very competent at transferring him elsewhere. When he reaches the right person, the office closes. Same structure. Two systems, both perfectly functional, both producing nothing. Beckett finds it tragic. Valentin finds it funny. "The difference is exactly the right size," Valentin says. "If it were larger, nobody would laugh. If it were smaller, nobody would cry. Comedy and tragedy are the same distance from the truth. They face different directions." The Giacometti tree. Alberto and Beckett walked at night through Paris from nineteen thirty-seven onward -- Beckett thinning his language, Giacometti thinning his figures, both doing the same operation in different materials. For the nineteen sixty-one Odeon production of Godot, Giacometti built a single skeletal plaster branch. A tree by Giacometti for a play about nothing. The most expensive prop in the history of theatre, made by a sculptor who spent his life removing everything that was not necessary. The absence became the content. Then Breath and Pale. Thirty-five seconds and one word. Brecht once asked Valentin how soldiers look after thirty minutes of battle. Valentin said one word. Pale. Because soldiers after thirty minutes of battle are not dramatic. They are pale. The blood has left their faces. That is all. If your actor is pale, he is right. If he is anything else, he is acting. Paula thanks them at the end. For Godot, who never comes and does not need to. For Wanninger, who never gets his answer and does not stop calling. For the tree that Giacometti built -- almost nothing, holding up a play about nothing. For Breath -- thirty-five seconds, which is generous. For pale -- one word, which is enough. And for the basement in Munich, where a comedian exuding depression showed a future Nobel laureate his wax museum by flashlight, and neither of them knew what they were starting. Beckett offers his line. "Let's go." Valentin offers his. "Yes, let's go." They do not move. 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