25 - Alex Kaufman | Don’t Let Analytics Come Before Art Owen sits down with Denver comedian, former physicist, and comedy producer Alex Kaufman for a conversation about stand-up comedy, creativity, politics, and why artists need to stop letting social media analytics dictate their work. Alex shares his experiences performing and producing comedy in Tacoma, Montana, and Denver, the challenges of breaking into the comedy industry, and why he believes the comedy boom will soon come to an end. The two discuss the growing obsession with viral clips, the importance of trusting your creative instincts, and why giving audiences what they think they want can actually make art worse. They also explore humanity's obsession with impending doom, from the Cold War and Y2K to artificial intelligence and Yellowstone erupting, and whether doomsday preppers are really winning if the rest of their lives are spent making chili. Owen and Alex also dive into the relationship between comedy and politics, the growing influence of comedians on public opinion, and why getting too close to power can corrupt the very thing that makes comedy special. They discuss Tony Hinchcliffe, Kill Tony, Joe Rogan, political tribalism, and the difference between getting laughs and getting applause. Alex shares his unusual experience growing up on military bases around the world, why entering normal American society felt like a culture shock, and how the military operates differently than most people imagine. The two explore the fragility of modern infrastructure, the importance of ordinary people doing uncelebrated work, and why society tends to overlook the small actions that keep everything functioning. They also discuss the muse, finding inspiration in everyday life, and whether comedians are modern-day philosophers or simply clowns with microphones. Alex shares what he's learned from working with successful comedians, why the best comics tend to be genuinely curious about the world, and how embracing your own strange thoughts and emotions can lead to great material. They close things out by discussing the freedom of not taking yourself too seriously, the importance of live comedy, and why the best jokes often come when you're not trying to write them. Follow, Like, and Subscribe: Instagram: o.g.lolTikTok: owengiffordlolYouTube: theowengiffordshow Follow Alex Kaufman: Instagram: alexkaufmanliveWebsite: alexkaufman.live