18 - Zach Hopkins | The Waymos Train While You Sleep Owen sits down with comedian Zach Hopkins for a conversation quickly spirals into true crime, artificial intelligence, scams, and whether anyone can actually tell what’s real on the internet anymore. They talk about the allegations surrounding comedian Reggie Watts, the Lindsay Clancy case, and a fake 49ers player who allegedly scammed women by convincing them he was a professional athlete. Zach shares the story of nearly falling for an FBI phone scam as a teenager, while Owen talks about watching elderly people slowly learn how impossible it’s becoming to distinguish AI-generated videos from reality. They get into AI influencers, fake casino ads, self-driving cars, and why the technology seems to be advancing faster than anyone knows what to do with it. The conversation goes deeper into climate change, nuclear energy, Elon Musk, the prison planet theory, Buddhism, suffering, and why humans sometimes need to get punched in the face by consequences before they change. Owen and Zach also talk about indie movies breaking through Hollywood, seeing the same actors in every blockbuster, Gen Z’s strange relationship with sex and dating, growing up during the early days of iPhones and social media, and the people who somehow still post Snapchat stories. Owen gives five rules comedians should follow before posting stand-up clips online, shares his experience eating at a Michelin-star restaurant, and explains why an incredible meal can coexist with making a late-night quesadilla while smoking a joint. They close things out with Denver drivers, self-driving Waymos roaming the streets at night, and the realization that while everyone else is sleeping, AI is still out there training. Follow, Like, and Subscribe: Instagram: o.g.lol TikTok: owengiffordlol YouTube: theowengiffordshow