Dear Frannie: Franchise Growth, Leadership and Scaling Advice

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Dear Frannie is the franchise advice column you didn't know you needed. Hosted by Katherine LeBlanc, Fractional CMO, and James Vitrano, Franchise Operator, each episode tackles one real question franchisors are quietly wrestling with - from franchisee adoption and growth friction to leadership blind spots and operational scale. No panels. No keynote speak. No fluff. Just two people who've been inside franchise systems answering the questions brand leaders are afraid to ask out loud. If you're a franchisor navigating the messy middle of scale - this show was made for you. New episodes drop bi-weekly. Subscribe so you don't miss the next one.

  1. Oct 21

    Dear Frannie | How Do I Make My Marketing Dollars Work Harder?

    How do I make my marketing dollars work harder? Katherine LeBlanc is joined by Bob McKay, founder and chief executive officer of McKay Advertising and Activation — 21 years in business, the last 15 exclusively in food franchising — to trace exactly where franchise marketing budgets leak, and how to stop it. The leaks, in order: hiring outside help without scoping the job, so the request for proposal gets written by marketing alone and operations finds out later. Failing to manage the relationship, because five agencies is five direct reports and an unmanaged partnership is an underperforming one. Buying reach that's too wide — you compete with 25 to 60 restaurants inside one mile, so a grand opening that reaches six miles out is purchasing visits that will never repeat, which is part of why 75 to 82 percent of first-time customers never come back. And influencer spend nobody measures, which has gotten a free pass on attribution for three years running. Also in this episode: what the ChatGPT and Yelp deal means for restaurant discoverability, why a two-person marketing team cannot cover a 70-unit brand, the lead cost benchmark that tells you whether a market wants your product, and why being discoverable in real life still beats being discoverable online. If you're spending money on marketing and can't tell what it's returning, start here. Katherine LeBlanc and James Vitrano have spent a combined 40+ years in the trenches of franchising — across marketing, operations, legal, and franchise development — working with brands at every stage of growth. They've sat in the rooms where the hard calls get made, and they're not shy about sharing what they've seen work and what they've watched blow up. Want to go deeper? 🌐 apollocmo.com ▶️ @KatherineLeBlanc_Franchise on YouTube 🔗 linkedin.com/in/katherineleblanc 📩 katherine@apollocmo.com

  2. Sep 23

    Dear Frannie | Am I a Joint Employer of My Franchisee's Staff?

    You want every location to feel the same. Your lawyer wants you to stay out of your franchisee's HR file. Where's the line? Franchise attorney Lee Plave of Plave Koch joins Katherine to break down the American Franchise Act (HR 5267) and the question underneath it: when does a franchisor cross from setting brand standards into being a joint employer of their franchisee's staff — and what happens when they do? Lee came out of the Federal Trade Commission and has spent decades representing franchisors at every scale, from IHG, Hilton and 7-Eleven to brands that sold their first unit last month. In this conversation he lays out the rule that keeps franchisors on the right side of the line — standardize the output, not the input — and explains why the most cautious legal advice, "don't train them, don't talk to them," is both self-defeating and, in some businesses, genuinely unsafe. In this episode: What vicarious liability and joint employer status actually mean for a growing brandWhat the American Franchise Act is trying to codify, and why it exists nowThe output-versus-input rule, and how to apply it to your own brand standardsWhy cheap franchise documents are the most expensive purchase you'll makeHow to spot an agreement that came off a document mill or out of an AIWhat to do instead of directing your franchisee's employeesWhy one rogue franchisee damages the other ninety-nine, not just the brandKatherine LeBlanc and James Vitrano have spent a combined 40+ years in the trenches of franchising — across marketing, operations, legal, and franchise development — working with brands at every stage of growth. They've sat in the rooms where the hard calls get made, and they're not shy about sharing what they've seen work and what they've watched blow up. Katherine works with franchisors through Apollo CMO, stepping in as the strategic marketing resource brands need when growth gets ahead of the marketing function. If this one hit close to home, reach out. Want to go deeper? 🌐 apollocmo.com ▶️ @KatherineLeBlanc_Franchise on YouTube 🔗 linkedin.com/in/katherineleblanc 📩 katherine@apollocmo.com

  3. Aug 26

    Dear Frannie | I'm Ready to Grow Franchise Sales — Where Do I Actually Start?

    You're ready to grow your franchise — so where do you actually start? In this episode of Dear Frannie, Katherine LeBlanc and James Vitrano tackle the question every emerging franchisor is asking: where do I start my franchise development process, especially when budgets are tight? Their answer is the one most brands skip: start inside your own four walls. Before you spend a dollar on external lead generation, your fans, employees, and customers are your warmest and most likely franchisees. Katherine and James unpack why "marketing is momentum," why cheap external leads are often the most expensive path, why passive income is a dangerous sales pitch, and why growing slow is a feature, not a failure. Whether you're an emerging brand launching franchising or a seasoned operator over-indexed on external spend, this episode will change where you put your next dollar. Katherine LeBlanc is a franchise growth and marketing advisor and founder of Apollo CMO, helping brands build franchise sales programs that convert. Reach her at katherine@apollocmo.com. About the hosts: Katherine LeBlanc and James Vitrano have spent a combined 40+ years in the trenches of franchising — across marketing, operations, legal, and franchise development. They've sat in the rooms where the hard calls get made, and they share what they've seen work and what they've watched blow up. 🌐 apollocmo.com ▶️ @KatherineLeBlanc_Franchise on YouTube 🔗 linkedin.com/in/katherineleblanc 📩 katherine@apollocmo.com

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Dear Frannie is the franchise advice column you didn't know you needed. Hosted by Katherine LeBlanc, Fractional CMO, and James Vitrano, Franchise Operator, each episode tackles one real question franchisors are quietly wrestling with - from franchisee adoption and growth friction to leadership blind spots and operational scale. No panels. No keynote speak. No fluff. Just two people who've been inside franchise systems answering the questions brand leaders are afraid to ask out loud. If you're a franchisor navigating the messy middle of scale - this show was made for you. New episodes drop bi-weekly. Subscribe so you don't miss the next one.