Hitchhiker's Guide to AI Governance

Bruce Mullan

This is the Hitchhiker’s Guide to AI Governance, hosted by Bruce Mullan (who is mostly harmless). The Australian AI Governance Standard contains 42 statements, so in this podcast, of course, we'll discuss life, the universe and everything related to AI Governance. Each episode, we’ll be talking with the people who are actually trying to create, govern and use AI:  - policymakers and regulators wrestling with rapidly changing technology,  - AI vendors disrupting every aspect of our lives to make things easier, - researchers and ethicists asking how to align powerful systems with human values,  - industry leaders navigating safety, competition, and responsibility, and - civil society voices making sure we don’t forget the humans in the loop. Along the way, we’ll collect insights, and maybe a few cautionary tales, from guests on the front lines of AI governance around the galaxy. To watch our podcast on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4KuI2HLCbuORspHUOMBK5g To contact us please visit: https://www.aigovernancepartners.com.au/ To follow us please visit our Linkedin company page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/ai-governance-partners So long, and thanks for all the listening.

Episodes

  1. Episode 8 Gerry McCusker - Never let a good AI crisis go to waste

    4d ago

    Episode 8 Gerry McCusker - Never let a good AI crisis go to waste

    Don’t panic. In this episode I picked up Crisis Expert, Gerry McCusker. Gerry McCusker is the driving force behind The Drill, unique software for crisis simulation training. Gerry talks about: AI Risks Are Often Old Risks in New PackagingFocus on Consequences, Not the TechnologyAI Amplifies Existing Organisational WeaknessesOrganisations Need Business Continuity and Crisis Planning for AICrisis Preparedness Requires Practice, Not Just DocumentationHuman Judgment Remains Critical Where's Gerry? You can find him here: Linked In: linkedin.com/in/gerrymccuskermscpr Website: https://www.thedrill.com.au/ Nigel Farage bank controversy Gerry mentioned: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigel_Farage_Coutts_bank_scandal Gerry's lucky quote: Perhaps our eyes need to be washed by our tears once in a while, so that we can see life with a clearer view again. Hitchhiker’s Guide to AI Governance   Hosted by AI Governance partner, Bruce Mullan, who helps companies confidently adopt the 42 Statements of the Australian AI governance standard.  To watch this podcast on Youtube: Hitchhikers pod To learn more, visit his website:   www.aigovernancepartners.com.au   If you enjoyed this episode, please be sure to give us a rating, leave a comment and follow us for more episodes. So long and thanks for all the listening!

    1h 1m
  2. Episode 7 Duncan Brett - A vendor's perspective on being an intelligence company

    May 27

    Episode 7 Duncan Brett - A vendor's perspective on being an intelligence company

    Welcome to The Hitchhiker’s Guide to AI Governance, the podcast for anyone trying to make sense of intelligent machines, messy politics, and everything in between.   Don’t panic.   In this episode I picked up Duncan Brett   Duncan is the successful Chief Operating Officer at Decidr AI.   Duncan shares his perspectives about these topics:   - AI is Really About “Intelligence”, Not Just Models - Governance, Sovereignty & Trust Are Becoming Core Business Issues   - Businesses Are Racing Into AI Without Foundations   - Department-Led AI Could Create Chaos   - Human + AI = Repurposing, Not Replacement   - AI Adoption is Primarily a Cultural Leadership Challenge    Learn more about Duncan Duncan on LinkedIn:  linkedin.com/in/duncanbrett Decidr website: https://www.decidr.ai/ The Sh!t Happens Quote: Sometimes you're the windscreen. Sometimes you’re the mosquito.   Hitchhiker’s Guide to AI Governance   Hosted by AI Governance partner, Bruce Mullan, who helps companies confidently adopt the 42 Statements of the Australian AI governance standard.  To watch this podcast on Youtube: Hitchhikers pod To learn more, visit his website: www.aigovernancepartners.com.au   If you enjoyed this episode, please be sure to give us a rating, leave a comment and follow us for more episodes.

    41 min
  3. Episode 6 Part 2 Professor Michael Davern - An academic perspective on being human in an AI craze

    May 20

    Episode 6 Part 2 Professor Michael Davern - An academic perspective on being human in an AI craze

    Welcome to "The Hitchhiker’s Guide to AI Governance", the podcast for anyone trying to make sense of intelligent machines, messy politics, and everything in between.   Don’t panic.   In this Part 2 episode I picked up Professor Michael Davern.   Michael is the Professor of Accounting & Business Information Systems at the prestigious University of Melbourne. Michael has been working with AI since the 1990s and his depth of knowledge and experience in applying AI to real world problems is indeed, exceptional.  Michael tells me about:   AI Does Not Remove Human Responsibility  AI Is Powerful, But Most People Don’t Understand It  The Most Important Skill Is Human Judgment  AI Is Best Used as Augmentation, Not Full Automation  AI Governance Is Primarily a Culture Problem  AI Will Change Professional Development and Entry-Level Work  Experienced Professionals May Be Better Positioned to Lead AI Adoption  Asking the Right Question Matters More Than Finding Fast Answers  Learn more about Michael   Michael on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-davern-62274328/   The Sh!t Happens Quote: In school, you're taught the lesson and then you're tested. In life, you're given a test that teaches you a lesson.   Hitchhiker’s Guide to AI Governance   Hosted by AI Governance partner, Bruce Mullan, who helps them confidently adopt the 42 Statements of the Australian AI governance standard.  To learn more, visit his website:    www.aigovernancepartners.com.au   If you enjoyed this episode, please be sure to give us a rating and follow us for more episodes.

    49 min
  4. Episode 6 Part 1 Professor Michael Davern - An academic perspective on being human in an AI craze

    May 14

    Episode 6 Part 1 Professor Michael Davern - An academic perspective on being human in an AI craze

    Welcome to The Hitchhiker’s Guide to AI Governance, the podcast for anyone trying to make sense of intelligent machines, messy politics, and everything in between.   Don’t panic.   In this episode I picked up Professor Michael Davern.   Michael is the Professor of Accounting & Business Information Systems at the prestigious University of Melbourne. Michael has been working with AI since the 1990s and his depth of knowledge and experience in applying AI to real world human problems is indeed, exceptional.  Michael chats about these topics: Asking the Right Question Matters More Than Finding Fast Answers AI Does Not Remove Human Responsibility AI Is Powerful — But Most People Don’t Understand It The Most Important Skill Is Human Judgment AI Is Best Used as Augmentation, Not Full Automation AI Governance Is Primarily a Culture Problem AI Will Change Professional Development and Entry-Level Work Experienced Professionals May Be Better Positioned to Lead AI Adoption Learn more about Michael   Michael on LinkedIn: Michael Davern Michael's article: The Conversation: AI threatens to eat business software The Sh!t Happens Quote: In school, you're taught the lesson and then you're tested. In life, you're given a test that teaches you a lesson.   Hitchhiker’s Guide to AI Governance   Hosted by AI Governance partner, Bruce Mullan, who helps companies confidently adopt the 42 Statements of the Australian AI governance standard.  To watch this podcast on Youtube: Hitchhikers pod To learn more, visit his website:    www.aigovernancepartners.com.au   If you enjoyed this episode, please be sure to give us a rating, leave a comment and follow us for more episodes.

    31 min
  5. Episode 5 Jacinta Whelan - AI is the opportunity of a lifetime to design the career you want

    May 8

    Episode 5 Jacinta Whelan - AI is the opportunity of a lifetime to design the career you want

    Welcome to "The Hitchhiker’s Guide to AI Governance", the podcast for anyone trying to make sense of intelligent machines, messy politics, and everything in between.   Don’t panic.   In this episode I picked up Jacinta Whelan. Jacinta is the eminently successful lead Partner at Watermark Search Melbourne.   Jacinta specialises in placing seasoned C-Suite professionals in organisations for specific missions rather than permanent roles. Jacinta talks about AI as the opportunity of a lifetime, it all depends on how you look at it:   AI adoption for older workers is primarily an attitude, not an age thing  Leaders cannot outsource their AI understanding - they require hands-on engagement with AI tools and workflows.  AI is reshaping work by automating routine tasks, allowing us humans to focus on higher-value work Organisations are moving toward “human + agent” operating models  Functional business leaders (HR, marketing, finance, procurement, etc.) are becoming increasingly responsible for AI adoption within their own domains, rather than leaving AI solely to IT teams.  Change management is emerging as one of the biggest barriers to AI adoption.  Continuous learning and staying current with AI developments is now essential.  Recruitment and talent management are evolving rapidly. Despite fears around AI disruption the future is bright. AI is another major technological shift that can augment human capability if guided with strong governance, ethics, and human judgment. Learn more about Jacinta Whelan   Connect on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/jacintad   Listen to her Podcast: The Portfolio Pod - Podcast | TheInterimExecutive   Read her famous book: About | The Interim Executive   Visit her website: http://www.watermarksearch.com.au   The Sh!t Happens Quote: Everything is OK in the end. If it's not OK, then it's not the end.   Hitchhiker’s Guide to AI Governance   Hosted by AI Governance partner, Bruce Mullan, who helps companies confidently adopt the 42 Statements of the Australian AI Governance Standard.  To watch this podcast on Youtube: Hitchhikers pod To learn more, visit his website:  www.aigovernancepartners.com.au   If you enjoyed this episode, please be sure to give us a rating and follow us for more episodes from around the galaxy.

    53 min
  6. Episode 4 Philip Cornish - An AI perspective from the community sector

    Apr 25

    Episode 4 Philip Cornish - An AI perspective from the community sector

    Welcome to "The Hitchhiker’s Guide to AI Governance", the podcast for anyone trying to make sense of intelligent machines, messy politics, and everything in between.   Don’t panic.  In this episode I picked up Phil Cornish. Philip, our resident human in the loop, has over twenty years of board level experience across the commercial, government and not for profit sectors with particular experience in the community sector as a Board Chair.   Phil shares his AI perspectives in the context of a life well lived serving community and health organisations for his entire career.   Learn more about Philip Philip Cornish on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/philipcornish His company website: DK Sonin & Associates: Our team Book recommendation: Going On and On: Why Our Longevity Threatens the Future by Lucinda Holdforth Microsoft's "Sydney" AI fiasco in 2023: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sydney_(Microsoft) Hitchhiker’s Guide to AI Governance Hosted by AI Governance partner, Bruce Mullan, who partners with organisations to help them confidently adopt the Australian AI governance standard.  To watch this podcast on Youtube: Hitchhikers pod To learn more about what we do, visit our website:  www.aigovernancepartners.com.au If you enjoyed this episode, please be sure to give us a rating and follow us for more episodes.

    30 min
  7. Episode 3 Neil Butler - Reinventing Change Management for the AI era

    Apr 17

    Episode 3 Neil Butler - Reinventing Change Management for the AI era

    Welcome to "The Hitchhiker’s Guide to AI Governance", the podcast for anyone trying to make sense of intelligent machines, messy politics, and everything in between.   Don’t panic.  Today I speak with Neil Butler from Untypical, a boutique change management consulting practice. Neil has been delivery change for over 30 years across Australia and believes most of the way organisations do change is too process driven. We need stronger change leaders, less artefacts and a relentless focus on the outcomes we want to enable lasting change.   Neil shares his philosophy on why change has to change, to better prepare organisations for the AI era. Neil brings to life these interesting topics: How every company will transition to AI but only a handful will get the outcomes they want out of itWhy change leadership is more important than a change management processWhy an over-reliance on AI orchestrating change will get you into troubleHuman engagement is now more important than communicationsWhy his generation (over 50+) are best placed to manage the AI transition  Learn more about Neil Neil Butler on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/neilabutler Change change website: Change Change | The Art of Transformagination Change change the book: https://changechange.au/book/   Hitchhiker’s Guide to AI Governance Hosted by AI Governance Partner, Bruce Mullan, who partners with organisations to help them confidently adopt the Australian AI governance standard.  To learn more about what we do, visit our website:  www.aigovernancepartners.com.au If you enjoyed this episode, please be sure to give us a rating and follow us for more episodes.

    47 min
  8. Episode 2 Ambrion AI - AI Governance must be built in, not added on

    Apr 14

    Episode 2 Ambrion AI - AI Governance must be built in, not added on

    Welcome to "The Hitchhiker’s Guide to AI Governance" — the podcast for anyone trying to make sense of intelligent machines, messy politics, and everything in between.   But don’t panic.  Today we speak with John Webb-O'Rourke and Shane McCarthy from Ambrion AI, an Irish intelligence company purpose built for the AI era.    In this lively conversation, John and Shane share their starkly different AI Governance journeys, describe the state of AI governance transition in Ireland and the EU, share their recent AI successes along with some lamentable flaws of well-known AI tools. I found these topics thoroughly interesting: Why you should hire people aged 55+ to lead your AI transition and adoptionWhy you should personally use AI every dayWhy you can't trust any large language model even if the AI says "trust me".How AI tools can now hack into a system better than a human canWhy AI systems and their governance needs to be built together but in parallel with your existing traditional systems (which will eventually be taken over)How agentic AI governance should exactly mimic real world management controlsHow AI capability overhang and AI adoption influences competitive advantageAnd why you can't bring a horse to a Formula 1 race. Resource Recommendations Garbage in Gospel out - the practitioners workbook for transforming AI governance -  https://www.amazon.com.au/Garbage-Gospel-Out-Practitioners-Transforming-ebook/dp/B0GGM6FRH5   Digital Transformation Agency 42 Statements -  https://www.digital.gov.au/policy/ai/AI-technical-standard   Learn more about John and Shane John Webb-O'Rourke on LinkedIn - linkedin.com/in/john-webb-o-rourke-219b4315 Shane McCarthy on LinkedIn - linkedin.com/in/shanemcsocial Ambrion AI website:  https://ambrion.ai/ Hitchhiker’s Guide to AI Governance  Each episode, we’ll be talking with the people who are actually trying to write, challenge, and implement the rules of AI:  policymakers and regulators wrestling with rapidly changing technology, researchers and ethicists asking how to align powerful systems with human values, industry leaders navigating safety, competition, and responsibility, and civil society voices making sure we don’t forget the humans in the loop.  Hosted by AI Governance partner, Bruce Mullan, who partners with organisations to help them confidently adopt the Australian AI governance standard.  To learn more about what we do, visit our website: www.aigovernancepartners.com.au If you enjoyed this episode, please be sure to give us a rating and follow us for future episodes.

    1h 6m
  9. Episode 1 Dr Darryl Carlton - Garbage In, Gospel Out

    Apr 7

    Episode 1 Dr Darryl Carlton - Garbage In, Gospel Out

    Welcome to "The Hitchhiker’s Guide to AI Governance" — the podcast for anyone trying to make sense of intelligent machines, messy politics, and everything in between.   But don’t panic.  Today we speak with Dr Darryl Carlton, author of 8 books including his latest and most successful: Garbage in gospel out, the practitioners workbook for transforming AI governance.   In this in-depth interview, Dr Darryl Carlton shares his 50+ years of experience in AI, discussing the evolution of AI systems, governance challenges, and practical advice for leaders navigating the AI landscape. He highlights the importance of built-in governance, the pitfalls of overhyped AI concepts, and the future of agentic commerce.   Resource Recommendations The Machine That Changed the World - The Story of Lean Production - https://www.amazon.com.au/Machine-That-Changed-World/dp/0743299795   Improving Performance: How to manage the white space on the organization chart - https://www.amazon.com/Improving-Performance-Organization-Jossey-Bass-management/dp/1555422144   Garbage in Gospel out - the practitioners workbook for transforming AI governance - https://www.amazon.com.au/Garbage-Gospel-Out-Practitioners-Transforming-ebook/dp/B0GGM6FRH5   Digital Transformation Agency 42 Statements - https://www.digital.gov.au/policy/ai/AI-technical-standard   Learn more about Dr Darryl Carlton   Dr Darryl Carlton on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/darrylcarlton Vendeex Agentic Commerce website: https://www.vendeex.com/   About The Hitchhiker’s Guide to AI Governance   Each episode, we’ll be talking with the people who are actually trying to write, challenge, and implement the rules of AI:  - policymakers and regulators wrestling with rapidly changing technology,  - researchers and ethicists asking how to align powerful systems with human values,  - industry leaders navigating safety, competition, and responsibility,  - and civil society voices making sure we don’t forget the humans in the loop.   Hosted by AI Governance partner, Bruce Mullan, who partners with organisations to help them confidently adopt the Australian AI governance standard.  To learn more about what we do, visit our website: www.aigovernancepartners.com.au

    41 min
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This is the Hitchhiker’s Guide to AI Governance, hosted by Bruce Mullan (who is mostly harmless). The Australian AI Governance Standard contains 42 statements, so in this podcast, of course, we'll discuss life, the universe and everything related to AI Governance. Each episode, we’ll be talking with the people who are actually trying to create, govern and use AI:  - policymakers and regulators wrestling with rapidly changing technology,  - AI vendors disrupting every aspect of our lives to make things easier, - researchers and ethicists asking how to align powerful systems with human values,  - industry leaders navigating safety, competition, and responsibility, and - civil society voices making sure we don’t forget the humans in the loop. Along the way, we’ll collect insights, and maybe a few cautionary tales, from guests on the front lines of AI governance around the galaxy. To watch our podcast on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4KuI2HLCbuORspHUOMBK5g To contact us please visit: https://www.aigovernancepartners.com.au/ To follow us please visit our Linkedin company page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/ai-governance-partners So long, and thanks for all the listening.

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