Tenacity

Patrick E Martinez

Tenacity is a podcast for individuals and couples navigating the hardest moments of life and relationships. Hosted by Patrick Martinez, this show goes beyond theory and into lived experience—covering marriage under pressure, crisis, trust, resilience, and reality of rebuilding when everything seems lost. Through raw storytelling, practical frameworks, and hard-earned insight, Tenacity equips you to survive what you’re facing—and build something stronger on the other side. This isn’t about perfect relationships. It’s about enduring, rebuilding, and refusing to give up when it matters most.

  1. 5d ago

    The Tenacity Podcast Episode 27 Part 3: It's Okay To Be Sad. It's Not Okay To Be Depressed.

    Anxiety is carrying too much. Depression is when the circumstances start deciding your future for you. Patrick has been there: the couch, the light moving across the wall, hours gone, a friend on the phone saying I'm worried about you, and a pastor telling him he was living in the basement with the windows shut. This is Part 3 of a three-part series on anxiety and depression in the midst of a crisis. Patrick and Maddie draw the line between necessary sadness and depression, talk about sweet lemons and sour grapes, and lay out what they are doing while their daughters are gone: the fathers' group, ice club, saying yes to things they did not feel like doing, praying for the opposition, and getting the girls' rooms ready for when they come home. Part 1 and Part 2 cover anxiety. Chapters 00:00 Previously, on Parts 1 and 2 00:54 Welcome 01:16 Anxiety vs Depression 02:35 Necessary Sadness 04:45 Where To Draw The Line 06:55 Staring At The Wall 08:28 You're In The Basement 09:49 Hopelessness 11:38 Preparing For Them To Come Home 13:26 Sweet Lemons, Sour Grapes 15:53 Content In Despair 17:11 Stubbornly Living Your Life 19:06 No Idle Hands 19:58 The Fathers' Group 22:37 Depression Wants You Isolated 25:09 Let People Support You 29:13 Praying For The Opposition 31:16 Reframe The Crisis 33:51 Pivot, Adapt, Level Up 35:43 Commit To The Suck 37:39 You Never Regret Going 40:45 Sadness Is Not Depression The Tenacity Podcast is Patrick and Maddie Martinez, a podcast for couples about marriage, family and getting through a crisis together. Free 30 minute call with Patrick: call.pem.coach #depression #sadness #hope #crisis #mentalhealth #marriage #relationships #faith #christianmarriage #isolation #tenacitypodcast #patrickemartinez

  2. Sep 30

    The Tenacity Podcast Epi 26: Anxiety And Depression In A Crisis Part 2

    Month five of the crisis. Nothing has gotten better. Their daughters are still gone, the court is still the court, and the longer it goes the worse it looks on paper. What changed is Maddie's response to it. This is Part 2 of a three-part series on anxiety and depression in the midst of a crisis. Patrick and Maddie talk about suffering with a purpose instead of pointlessly, why a crisis magnifies every flaw you were already carrying, the fog of war and why you are not supposed to see the whole path, and the shame that shows up when you cannot keep up appearances. Then the high chair: a baby shower gift with a $35 budget, an antique from Facebook Marketplace, twelve hours of stripping and painting, and a cousin who called it the most meaningful gift he got. Part 1 is where the anxiety conversation started. Part 3 is depression. Chapters 00:00 Previously, on Part 1 00:58 Welcome 01:49 Peace Despite The Chaos 03:25 Suffering With A Purpose 04:49 The Choice Inside Suffering 05:53 A Crisis Magnifies Every Flaw 07:08 The Last Crisis 08:13 Wisdom Only Suffering Teaches 10:52 The Fog Of War 13:32 Walking By Faith 14:45 Shame And Self-image 15:56 Caring What People Think 16:59 The Baby Shower Gift 19:17 Abased And Abounding 20:22 The $35 High Chair 25:22 The Gift He'd Remember 26:43 Draining People 30:06 Find The Source, Remove It 30:46 Be Proud Of The Fight 31:49 Please God, Not Men The Tenacity Podcast is Patrick and Maddie Martinez, a podcast for couples about marriage, family and getting through a crisis together. Free 30 minute call with Patrick: call.pem.coach

  3. Sep 23

    The Tenacity Podcast Epi 25: Anxiety And Depression In A Crisis - Part 1

    Maddie has been anxious since she was a kid. Then the crisis hit: five and a half months without their daughters, another round of false accusations, court dates, attorney bills. The anxiety turned into a skin infection that three months of antibiotics could not clear, because the thing keeping it alive was stress. This is Part 1 of a three-part series on anxiety and depression in the midst of a crisis. Maddie describes what anxiety is like from the inside, every waking second, and Patrick describes what it was like to watch. Then they walk through what actually changed: the two priorities Maddie was allowed to worry about and the note on her phone that held them, what Patrick took off her plate, what he had to hand off himself, and why self-care is not a pedicure. Part 2 keeps going on anxiety, the shame that comes with a crisis, and a $35 high chair. Part 3 is depression. Chapters 00:00 Someone's about to die 00:19 Why Anxiety, Why Now 03:15 Every Waking Second 05:25 Anxiety Or Trauma 06:14 Peace Can't Depend On Circumstances 09:24 The Illness That Forced The Lesson 13:25 Chapter One: Self-care 17:49 Two Priorities, Nothing Else 19:41 That's Not Your Burden 21:26 Let Him Cook 22:23 You're Not Their Protector 26:18 Self-care Is Active 27:29 Interrupt The Spiral 29:05 Where The Worry Came From 30:28 Your Body Thinks It's A Wolf The Tenacity Podcast is Patrick and Maddie Martinez, a podcast for couples about marriage, family and getting through a crisis together. Free 30 minute call with Patrick: call.pem.coach

  4. Sep 16

    The Tenacity Podcast Epi 24 Part 2: Why We Don't Go To Church Anymore

    People quote Hebrews 10 at Patrick and Maddie: do not forsake the assembling of yourselves together. Patrick's answer is that the verse is about community, and that a church where you cannot question a doctrine without being removed is not offering community. So they went and found it elsewhere. A fathers' group in Tulsa. An AA meeting, though Patrick has never been an addict. The mats at Maddie's jiu jitsu gym, where a training partner asked how she was really doing and her instructor corrected him when his advice went off the rails. She calls that better Christian community than she was getting on Sunday. Then Patrick, who spent seven years as a pastor and went to Bible college for this, lays out the part he cannot get around. He argues the church has the gospel itself wrong. That "Jesus died for your sins" is a thin description of the cross, like saying he bought Maddie a wedding ring so she would have something pretty to wear. That everlasting life in John 3:16 is not heaven, and Jesus defines it himself four chapters later. That salvation was never about accepting forgiveness, and the best salvation prayer in the Bible is Paul's five-word question. They are not deconstructing. Patrick is clear about the difference: they name what is broken, and then they put something in its place. If you have a good church, keep it. This is where the two of them landed. Chapters 00:00 Previously, in Part 1 00:55 Welcome 01:16 The three reasons, recapped 01:59 The verse people quote at us 03:09 You cannot question the doctrine 03:20 So we found community elsewhere 03:41 The fathers' group 06:28 Adhere to all of it, or get out 07:16 The church as a black hole 09:38 You'd be a better Christian in the parking lot 10:42 If your church closed, would anyone notice? 11:38 Better Christian community at jiu jitsu 14:35 The biggest reason, we can't buy in 15:11 Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees 16:21 Jesus died for your sins is a weak description 17:23 They made salvation all about heaven 18:02 John 3:16, and what everlasting life means 19:08 Salvation has nothing to do with forgiveness 20:22 What a salvation prayer actually is 21:25 How you actually hear God's voice 22:48 Not deconstructing, reconstructing 23:26 Why the Bible is not like any other book 24:21 God's Word is one Greek word 25:18 You can't grasp it with a 3D brain 26:37 Reading the Bible topically 27:51 What they never teach you 28:46 Where Jesus would actually be 29:14 Thanks for being with us The Tenacity Podcast is Patrick and Maddie Martinez, a podcast for couples about marriage, family and getting through a crisis together. Free 30 minute call with Patrick: call.pem.coach

  5. Sep 9

    The Tenacity Podcast Epi 23 Part 1: Why We Don't Go To Church Anymore

    Patrick was a pastor for seven years. Maddie came to faith as an adult. They found a church they loved, with the best preacher Patrick had ever heard, and they told the pastors their entire history before they ever volunteered for anything. The criminal trial. The false accusations. The not-guilty verdict. Every pastor there knew, and every one of them said it would not be a problem. Then one couple in their small group looked them up, said they were uncomfortable, and the pastor called Patrick and Maddie in. Not to defend them. To tell them to go. This is Part 1 of a two-part conversation about why the Martinezes stopped going to church. Patrick tells it plainly: the meeting where he cried in front of those men, the walk across the parking lot, and the slow realization over the months that followed that there was no other church waiting for them. They visited others. They sat through a worship set that was all me, a youth pastor who promised that a bigger tithe would sell their house, and a sermon on fear from a woman whose worst moment was getting separated from her tour group at the pyramids, delivered to a couple who had spent fifteen months not knowing if he was going to prison. They are not telling anyone else to leave. If you have a church you love, keep it. This is their story and the three reasons behind it. Part 2 goes into the scripture and the theology. Chapters 00:00 It's not about right and wrong, somebody complained 00:20 Welcome 00:56 Reason one, we got kicked out 01:51 The church our friends brought us to 03:02 The best preacher I ever heard 05:43 We bought in, and I wanted to serve again 06:50 We told the pastors everything 08:39 The first day I ran sound, I cried 10:02 A prayer request in small group 11:04 One couple looked us up 12:25 I was devastated. I was heartbroken. 13:20 Church hurt, and who it belongs to 14:15 Reason two, there wasn't another church for us 15:07 A service that was wrong start to finish 16:53 The youth pastor whose tithe sold his house 17:38 The tithe is not in the New Testament 19:27 A sermon about fear 20:43 What do you know about fear? 21:54 It's a business 22:36 Twenty hours a week, for free 23:55 The church is a greenhouse 24:39 So I rewrote the book 25:23 Why we don't call ourselves Christians 26:58 We've grown more since we left 29:19 What people in crisis actually need 31:34 Not our target audience 32:29 More in common with people in recovery 34:29 We're not deconstructing 36:05 Reason three, the Lord hasn't told us to go back The Tenacity Podcast is Patrick and Maddie Martinez, a podcast for couples about marriage, family and getting through a crisis together. Free 30 minute call with Patrick: call.pem.coach #church #churchhurt #leavingchurch #faith #christianity #christianmarriage #marriage #relationships #tithing #deconstruction #tenacitypodcast #patrickemartinez

  6. Sep 4

    The Tenacity Podcast Ep 22: They Took Our Kids Over This Podcast

    We launched this podcast on April 1, 2026. That was the last day we saw our girls. Their mother filed a notice suspending visitation and named this show as the cause. No police report, no doctor’s note, no counselor, no teacher, no evidence the children ever watched a single full episode. Because they never did. Patrick and Maddie walk through the whole case: the two earlier rounds of false allegations that ended in a seven day criminal jury trial and a not guilty verdict, the motion to enforce visitation, a 45 day statute that took 126 days, the demurrer, and the ruling read out loud word for word. Patrick reads the legal definition of abuse and shows the burden was never met. This is the hardest episode we have made, and it is the reason the show exists. We started The Tenacity Podcast to help couples in crisis learn to suffer well. We did not expect to be living one on air. They want us quieter. We are going to be louder. Talk to Patrick. Free 30 minute call. If your marriage is in crisis right now, you do not have to sit in it alone. Patrick is a relationship coach and he is not speaking from theory. He will get on a free 30 minute one on one call with you. No pitch, no pressure. Just an honest conversation about what is happening in your marriage and what your options actually are. It costs you nothing but half an hour, and he will run long if you need him to. Book here: ⁠https://call.pem.coach⁠ Go deeper with Survive & Thrive: ⁠https://PatrickEMartinez.com/relationship-rescue⁠ This episode is Patrick and Maddie Martinez’s own account and opinion of proceedings they were party to. Not legal advice. #TenacityPodcast #FamilyCourt #ParentalAlienation #FathersRights #FreeSpeech Spotify gets a trimmed 16 chapter list because it shows far less copy before the fold than YouTube.

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Tenacity is a podcast for individuals and couples navigating the hardest moments of life and relationships. Hosted by Patrick Martinez, this show goes beyond theory and into lived experience—covering marriage under pressure, crisis, trust, resilience, and reality of rebuilding when everything seems lost. Through raw storytelling, practical frameworks, and hard-earned insight, Tenacity equips you to survive what you’re facing—and build something stronger on the other side. This isn’t about perfect relationships. It’s about enduring, rebuilding, and refusing to give up when it matters most.