Probably Most Definitely Overthinking This

Kami Schatz and Melissa Hayes
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Probably Most Definitely Overthinking This is the podcast for deep thinkers, ambitious women, entrepreneurs, and high achievers navigating the thoughts we all have but rarely say out loud. Hosted by Melissa Hayes & Kami Schatz, we unpack overthinking, imposter syndrome, confidence, identity shifts, success, relationships, mindset, personal growth, and becoming the next version of yourself. Honest conversations about human behavior, doing hard things, and figuring life out while probably most definitely overthinking it.

  1. 2d ago

    Wp. 18: Why Women Overthink Money with Lupita Lechuga

    For our FIRST guest episode, we're talking about something most of us deal with—but don't always want to talk about: MONEY. 💸 Why do women overthink it so much? This week, Melissa and Kami are joined by Lupita Lechuga, RICP®, Director of Financial Planning, for a very real conversation about our relationship with money and why so much of it has absolutely nothing to do with the numbers. We talk about the money messages we picked up as kids, why women tend to second-guess financial decisions, the pressure to have it all figured out, spending guilt, debt, FOMO, impulse purchases, credit cards, saving, and what happens when life is simply life-ing and dealing with your finances keeps getting pushed further down the list. Lupita also shares some practical ways to make money feel less overwhelming - including getting organized, understanding where your money is actually going, identifying what you genuinely value, sleeping on purchases before hitting "buy," and choosing one financial priority when everything feels like too much. And yes... we also somehow get into Starbucks, Amazon carts, Kohl's Cash, trinkets, taking your bra off at the end of the day, and why your shoes probably don't need a payment plan. 😂 This isn't about being perfect with money. It's about getting more comfortable talking about it, understanding the habits and beliefs influencing our decisions, and building the confidence to make the next right move for your life. Because maybe we don't need to have money completely figured out. Maybe we just need to stop being so afraid to talk about it. 🎙️ CONNECT WITH LUPITA Instagram: @positive_pita LinkedIn: Lupita Lechuga | /in/lechugasuccess 🎙️ CONNECT WITH MELISSA Instagram: @becoming.on.purpose 🎙️ CONNECT WITH KAMI Instagram: @epscoaching Probably Most Definitely Overthinking This Real conversations about the things we're all probably overthinking anyway.

  2. Aug 21

    Ep. 17: Vision Boards, Woo-Woo & Doing the Real Work

    Personal growth gets uncomfortable when you start becoming the person your next chapter requires. In this episode, we’re talking about personal growth - the uncomfortable, exciting, sometimes totally woo-woo version of it. We get into what happens when the old version of you doesn’t quite fit anymore, but you’re still figuring out who you’re becoming. From self-validation and trusting your own decisions to vision boards, manifestation, affirmations, spirituality, intuition, and even the idea that your future self might be leaving you a few breadcrumbs along the way. We also talk about something we both believe: you can’t just put what you want on a vision board and wait for it to happen. You have to grow into it. Sometimes that means reading the book. Taking the chance. Trying something new. Going inward. Getting uncomfortable. Or simply trusting that you don’t have to know exactly how everything is going to unfold yet. We definitely get a little weird in this one and we’re completely okay with that. 😂 Because there’s no one right way to grow. Stay curious, experience your life, trust yourself, and keep doing the real work. Things We Mentioned + Recommend📚 The Power of Now — Eckhart Tolle Melissa’s book recommendation and one she says changed her life. 📚 The Success Principles — Jack Canfield One of Kami’s recommendations for personal growth, possibility, and learning from the breadcrumbs other people leave behind. 📚 The 21 Irrefutable Laws of Leadership — John C. Maxwell A book Kami credits with helping her recognize the gap between where she was and the person and leader she wanted to become. 🎬 The Secret Kami shares how The Secret first introduced her to manifestation, affirmations, and intentionally thinking about what she wanted to create. 🧘 Insight Timer One of Kami’s favorite tools for meditation, clearing her mind, breathing, and coming back to herself. 🎧 Healing Frequencies / Frequency Sounds Melissa likes listening to frequency sounds while sleeping as another way to slow down, reset, and go inward. ✨ Vision Boards Something we both use — in VERY different ways — to explore what we want, play with possibility, and create a vision for what might come next. Connect With UsKami: @epscoaching Melissa: @being.on.purpose If this episode made you think about your own growth a little differently, share it with someone who might need it too. ❤️

  3. Aug 1

    Ep. 16: The Hidden Cost of Chasing Your Dreams | Ambition, Identity & Finding Meaning in the Journey

    Everyone tells you to chase your dreams. Almost no one talks about what those dreams will ask of you. In this episode, Kami and Melissa explore the hidden emotional cost of ambition, the pressure to keep moving the goalposts, and why reaching the milestone rarely feels the way we imagined it would. From entrepreneurship and identity to grief, purpose, and learning to celebrate yourself, this conversation is a reminder that the destination isn't what changes you - the journey does. If you've ever wondered why you still feel like there's "more" after reaching a goal, or struggled to slow down long enough to appreciate how far you've come, this episode is for you. Because maybe the greatest achievement isn't reaching the dream... it's becoming the person you had to become along the way. Connect with us: Instagram: @epscoaching | @brave.harbour

    Ep. 16: The Hidden Cost of Chasing Your Dreams | Ambition, Identity & Finding Meaning in the Journey

  4. Jul 17

    Ep. 15: Why You Self-Sabotage When Life Starts Getting Better (Fear of Success Explained)

    What happens when the thing you have been hoping for actually starts happening? Most of us expect success, growth, love, and new opportunities to feel exciting… But sometimes they feel terrifying. In this episode, we talk about the unexpected panic that comes when life starts working - the moment where old patterns, self-doubt, and imposter syndrome try to pull us back into what feels familiar. We talk about learning to receive: ✨ Compliments without minimizing yourself ✨ Opportunities without questioning if you deserve them ✨ Success without sabotaging it ✨ Growth without shrinking back into who you used to be Because maybe the panic isn’t telling you that you’re on the wrong path. Maybe it’s showing you that you’re becoming someone new. Connect with us: Instagram: @epscoaching @brave.harbour

    Ep. 15: Why You Self-Sabotage When Life Starts Getting Better (Fear of Success Explained)

  5. Jul 10

    Ep. 14: Why Do I Need Validation From Others? | Stop Seeking Approval & Start Trusting Yourself

    Why do we crave validation from others? Why do we care so much about what people think? From childhood praise and wanting to make people proud… to chasing success, relationships, money, followers, and achievements — so many of us spend years looking outside ourselves for proof that we are enough. In this episode, Kami and Melissa dive into the psychology behind why humans seek validation and how the need for approval can show up in every area of life. We talk about: ✨ Where our need for validation starts ✨ The connection between validation, attention, and belonging ✨ How people pleasing impacts confidence and self-worth ✨ Seeking validation in business, relationships, money, and success ✨ Why external validation can become a trap ✨ Learning how to trust yourself and build internal validation The truth is… wanting validation does not make you weak. It makes you human. We are wired for connection, encouragement, and community. The shift happens when we stop needing approval from others to determine our worth and start learning how to validate ourselves. Because the biggest question isn’t: “Do people approve of me?” It’s: “Do I approve of the person I am becoming?” 🎙️ Join Kami and Melissa for honest conversations around personal growth, mindset shifts, authenticity, self-awareness, relationships, entrepreneurship, and becoming more of who you truly are. Connect with us: Kami — @epscoaching Melissa — @brave.harbour

    Ep. 14: Why Do I Need Validation From Others? | Stop Seeking Approval & Start Trusting Yourself

  6. Jul 5

    Ep. 13: Who are you without the mask? The Truth About Authenticity - Part 2

    Who are you without the mask? The mask of being perfect. The mask of having it all together. The mask of becoming the person everyone else expected you to be. In this episode, we continue our conversation on authenticity and explore the moments when we realized we weren’t always living as ourselves - we were living as the versions we thought we had to become. We talk about confidence, identity, showing up online, judgment, people pleasing, and learning to separate who you truly are from who the world told you to be. Because the goal isn’t to become someone new. Sometimes the real journey is finally coming back to yourself.

    Ep. 13: Who are you without the mask? The Truth About Authenticity - Part 2

  7. Jun 26

    Ep. 12: The Delusion Required to Try Something New | Why Looking Crazy Might Be the First Step to Success

    What does it take to try something new? According to Kami and Melissa... a little bit of delusion. In this episode, we explore why every dream, business, podcast, and big life change starts with believing in something before there is proof it will work. We share stories about imposter syndrome, fear of judgment, looking ridiculous, and taking action long before confidence arrives. Because the truth is: Confidence doesn't come before action. Confidence comes from action. If you've ever worried about what people might think, questioned whether you're qualified, or felt called to do something bigger, this conversation is for you. Sometimes the people who change their lives are simply the people willing to look a little crazy first.

    Ep. 12: The Delusion Required to Try Something New | Why Looking Crazy Might Be the First Step to Success

  8. Jun 19

    Ep. 11: Why Women Feel Pressure to Be Everything | The Real Reason You're Exhausted All the Time

    In Episode 11 of Probably Most Definitely Overthinking This, Kami and Melissa explore the emotional weight so many women carry every day—the pressure to achieve more, earn more, give more, and somehow keep everyone happy while doing it. Through personal stories and honest reflection, they discuss people-pleasing, productivity, motherhood, entrepreneurship, self-worth, and the importance of filling your own bucket before trying to pour into everyone else's. This episode is a reminder that you don't need permission to take the pressure off. Sometimes the most powerful thing you can do is stop creating chaos, let go of unrealistic expectations, and allow the world to meet you where you are. If you've been feeling overwhelmed, stretched too thin, or like you're never doing enough, this conversation will remind you that you're not alone.

    Ep. 11: Why Women Feel Pressure to Be Everything | The Real Reason You're Exhausted All the Time
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Probably Most Definitely Overthinking This is the podcast for deep thinkers, ambitious women, entrepreneurs, and high achievers navigating the thoughts we all have but rarely say out loud. Hosted by Melissa Hayes & Kami Schatz, we unpack overthinking, imposter syndrome, confidence, identity shifts, success, relationships, mindset, personal growth, and becoming the next version of yourself. Honest conversations about human behavior, doing hard things, and figuring life out while probably most definitely overthinking it.

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