In this episode of Faces of Five, chad charles speaks with Laadaa, a Haida elder and lifelong student of healing, about the role 5-MeO-DMT played in a personal journey that spans more than three decades. Rather than viewing medicine as a cure, Laadaa shares how 5-MeO-DMT acted as a catalyst—opening doors that allowed him to continue the deeper work of healing, self-discovery, and self-acceptance. Together, they explore collective trauma, Indigenous perspectives on wellness, the importance of personal responsibility, and why meaningful transformation requires far more than a single experience. This conversation is a reflection on patience, perseverance, and the understanding that healing is not a destination, but a lifelong practice. What We Discussed: ● How 5-MeO-DMT opened new pathways for healing ● Why medicine alone is not enough ● The importance of doing the work after ceremony● Ancestors, spirituality, and receiving guidance ● Collective trauma and Indigenous healing ● Shame, identity, and generational wounds ● Play, joy, and reconnecting with the inner child ● Acceptance, forgiveness, and personal growth ● Self-acceptance and finding a new relationship with oneself ● The experience of symbolic death during 5-MeO-DMT ● Medicine as a catalyst rather than a cure ● Discernment, readiness, and responsible medicine work _____ chad charles is a practitioner, educator, and mentor specializing in 5-MeO-DMT. Since 2016, he has worked exclusively in this field, developing a practice-based understanding of these experiences through direct facilitation, practitioner training, and ongoing research. He works one-on-one with individuals in therapy-assisted contexts, supports people around the world through integration calls, and guides practitioners through mentorship and training. A large, detailed body of documented sessions since 2020 informs targeted research initiatives, with a focus on clarity, precision, and lived data. His private practice operates in Toronto and Montreal. Learn more at chadcharles.net https://substack.com/@chadcharles5 ______ Timestamped Summary 00:00 – Reconnecting after years and reflecting on a lifelong healing journey 03:00 – How 5-MeO-DMT opened new pathways and opportunities 05:00 – Why healing requires action and commitment beyond the medicine 07:00 – Ancestors, spiritual guidance, and receiving support along the path 09:00 – Collective trauma, Indigenous healing, and personal responsibility 12:00 – Shame, generational wounds, and confronting difficult truths 13:00 – Remembering play, joy, and the importance of putting yourself first 16:00 – Struggling with acceptance while continuing to heal 18:00 – Self-acceptance, progress, and trusting the direction of life 20:00 – Conscious participation during 5-MeO-DMT and the experience of symbolic death 22:00 – Why medicine is a catalyst, not a cure 24:00 – Discernment, integrity, and not chasing medicine 28:00 – Guidance for those considering 5-MeO-DMT 29:00 – One-on-one work versus group ceremony 30:00 – Moving through darkness and finding what lies beyond