The Leadership Lab

The Colour Works

Most leadership content wants to impress you. We'd rather be useful. The Leadership Lab is a podcast by The Colour Works — and it's built around one belief: relatable beats impressive. Because the most powerful leadership lessons don't come from people who've got it all figured out. They come from people who've made difficult decisions, changed their minds, got it wrong, and kept going anyway. Each series, we take one element from our Leadership Periodic Table and put it under the microscope. We sit down with guests — leaders, thinkers, practitioners — and have the kind of conversations that don't usually make it into the highlight reel. The uncomfortable realisations. The moments of doubt. The things they wish someone had told them earlier. Then the following week, it's just us. Our Lab Note episodes are where Luke Wiltshire and Lucy Pearson debrief what they heard, what resonated, what they'd push back on, and what it actually looks like in practice inside real organisations. No frameworks sold here. No six-step models. No one pretending leadership is cleaner than it is. Just honest conversations, genuine curiosity, and the belief that self-knowledge is the most underrated leadership tool there is. The Leadership Periodic Table grows with every series — a living, evolving map of what it means to lead, built entirely from real conversations. Each guest leaves their mark on it. New episodes every week, alternating between longer feature conversations and shorter Lab Notes. Hosted by Luke Wiltshire and Lucy Pearson from The Colour Works.

Episodes

  1. Jul 21

    Ep4: Leadership Lab - Would You Follow You? The Standards Behind Great Leadership

    Raise the Bar: Why Leadership Standards Start With YouIn the final episode of the first Leadership Lab series, Luke and Lucy are joined by Glenn Turner — personal trainer, leadership facilitator and founder of Turnertrain — to explore a challenging hypothesis: Your leadership standards are dictated by the standards you set for yourself. Glenn shares his journey from pulling pints and developing leaders in hospitality to working in learning and development, experiencing redundancy, becoming a dad and building his own business. Together, they put high standards under the microscope. When do high standards inspire people, and when do they create fear? Can leaders expect others to match their personal standards? And how do you raise the bar without becoming rigid, judgmental or burning yourself — and your team — out? The conversation explores authenticity, integrity and trust, and why leaders must demonstrate the behaviours they expect from others. Glenn also reflects on how becoming a parent has helped him become kinder to himself, focus on his non-negotiables and understand the difference between constantly chasing an aspirational ceiling and creating a sustainable floor. Glenn submits Standards to the Leadership Lab Periodic Table and leaves leaders with a powerful challenge: understand yourself, your values and the standards you are prepared to live by before asking anyone else to follow. At The Colour Works, we believe that great leadership begins with self-awareness. When leaders understand themselves — their values, preferences, strengths and impact on others — they are better equipped to lead authentically, adapt their approach and build stronger relationships with the people around them. About Glenn TurnerGlenn is the founder of Turnertrain, where he combines his experience in learning and development, leadership facilitation and personal training to help people perform at their best — both professionally and personally. His approach focuses on developing sustainable habits, raising personal standards and helping people take ownership of their progress without losing sight of empathy, balance and the realities of everyday life. Mentioned in this episodeTurnertrain — Glenn TurnerExtreme Ownership by Jocko Willink and Leif BabinBrené Brown’s Dare to Lead and work on courageous leadershipJohn Wooden’s leadership philosophy and Pyramid of Success To learn more about how The Colour Works helps people, teams and organisations develop greater self-awareness, strengthen relationships and work better together, visit our website.

    Ep4: Leadership Lab - Would You Follow You? The Standards Behind Great Leadership
  2. Jun 16

    Ep2: Leadership Lab - The Curious Leader: Why Better Questions Create Better Performance

    In a world where knowledge is everywhere and answers are easier than ever to find, is knowing the answer still a leader’s greatest strength? In this episode of The Leadership Lab podcast by The Colour Works, Luke Wiltshire and Lucy Pearson are joined by Nic Scott, founder of Seeds Coaching, to put her leadership hypothesis under the microscope: “The leaders who create the most value aren’t the ones with the best answers. They’re the ones who ask the best questions.” Nic shares her journey from the wine industry and multi-site leadership into learning, development and coaching. Together, they explore how curiosity and coaching skills can help leaders build trust, create psychological safety, empower their teams and unlock better performance. The conversation examines whether every leader can learn to coach, whether everyone wants to be coached, and when employees need questions rather than clear direction. Nic also shares her perspective on AI coaching, remote leadership and why slowing down to ask one more question can ultimately save leaders time. In this episode, they explore: Why leaders do not need to be the expert in every situationHow better questions encourage ownership and accountabilityThe relationship between coaching, trust and psychological safetyWhen leaders should coach and when they should provide directionHow coaching can support remote and hybrid teamsWhether AI coaching can replace human connectionWhy curiosity should be directed inward as well as towards othersNic’s leadership behaviour for the Leadership Lab Periodic Table is Curiosity — the willingness to remain open, challenge assumptions and stay interested in both your people and yourself. Her practical challenge for leaders is simple: Can you ask one more question? Find out more about Nic ScottNic Scott is the founder of Seeds Coaching, helping organisations develop coaching cultures where people can think better, lead more effectively and take greater ownership of their performance. Connect with Nic and explore more of her work: LinkedIn: Nicola Scott – Seeds Coaching Instagram: @seeds_coaching Website: seedscoaching.co.uk About The Colour WorksThe Colour Works is a people development consultancy helping organisations build more human, connected and effective workplaces. Through leadership development, team effectiveness, culture change, executive coaching and Insights Discovery, we help individuals and organisations develop greater self-awareness, improve communication and unlock sustainable performance. Discover more about our work, workshops and leadership development programmes at: thecolourworks.com The Leadership Lab is a podcast from The Colour Works, exploring real leadership challenges through honest conversations, fresh thinking and practical experimentation.

    Ep2: Leadership Lab - The Curious Leader: Why Better Questions Create Better Performance

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Most leadership content wants to impress you. We'd rather be useful. The Leadership Lab is a podcast by The Colour Works — and it's built around one belief: relatable beats impressive. Because the most powerful leadership lessons don't come from people who've got it all figured out. They come from people who've made difficult decisions, changed their minds, got it wrong, and kept going anyway. Each series, we take one element from our Leadership Periodic Table and put it under the microscope. We sit down with guests — leaders, thinkers, practitioners — and have the kind of conversations that don't usually make it into the highlight reel. The uncomfortable realisations. The moments of doubt. The things they wish someone had told them earlier. Then the following week, it's just us. Our Lab Note episodes are where Luke Wiltshire and Lucy Pearson debrief what they heard, what resonated, what they'd push back on, and what it actually looks like in practice inside real organisations. No frameworks sold here. No six-step models. No one pretending leadership is cleaner than it is. Just honest conversations, genuine curiosity, and the belief that self-knowledge is the most underrated leadership tool there is. The Leadership Periodic Table grows with every series — a living, evolving map of what it means to lead, built entirely from real conversations. Each guest leaves their mark on it. New episodes every week, alternating between longer feature conversations and shorter Lab Notes. Hosted by Luke Wiltshire and Lucy Pearson from The Colour Works.