Coversations With Gabriel

The Common Sense ZA

The Common Sense's one-on-one interviews with politicians, businesspeople and other fascinating South African commentators

  1. 2d ago

    Chief Rabbi Warren Goldstein Reflects On Two Years Since October 7

    Two years after the 7 October 2023 attack on Israel, Chief Rabbi of South Africa Dr Warren Goldstein sits down with Gabriel Makin. He describes what that day meant for South Africa's Jewish community, why he calls it a genocide averted, and what 3,800 years of Jewish history teach about enemies who say they want you dead. He explains why he stood up to the ANC government after, in his words, it declared solidarity with Hamas and then took Israel to the International Court of Justice, why he believes the government's anti-Israel stance betrays the Constitution and the values of ordinary South Africans, what that stand cost him personally, and why South Africa still has among the lowest rates of antisemitism in the world. Become a member for all the facts and analysis (R99/month): https://www.thecommonsense.co.za/subscribeWatch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/Rq6rI9H7HXEThe Common Sense: https://www.thecommonsense.co.za Chapters:0:00 What 7 October 2023 meant for South Africa's Jews3:39 1,200 murdered, 250 hostages and a genocide averted7:13 A rabbi's response: grief, prayer and the Perez family10:31 Pogroms, the Holocaust and taking enemies at their word16:30 Why Israel must be strong: 3,800 years of resilience23:58 Standing up to the ANC government over the ICJ case30:04 The personal cost, and why appeasement brings danger32:00 So far and no further: Jewish leaders in the West34:11 Why South Africa remains one of the safest countries for Jews

  2. 4d ago

    Mbuyiseni Ndlozi: South Africans Must Stop Waiting For The State To Save Them

    A collaboration between The Common Sense and the African Renaissance Podcast (Thabo Mbeki Foundation). Former EFF MP Dr Mbuyiseni Ndlozi, now a senior fellow at the Thabo Mbeki Foundation, sits down with Gabriel Makin to unpack his 11 Theses on the Call for a Batho Pele Convention. He argues that South Africans traded their agency for the ballot ("we vote, and then we wait"), that local government is sliding into a mafiocracy run by extortion cartels, and that communities must organise to fix their own streets, schools and safety, from monthly contributions and community chapters to an alumni league that maintains public schools in the holidays and a legal unit that sues over abandoned projects. The two then argue it out: liberals and Pan-Africanists, the lean state versus the developmental state, China and Deng Xiaoping, Black Consciousness and the Institute of Race Relations, racism and the 1994 settlement, and whether Bantu education or SADTU is to blame for South Africa's schools. Read the 11 Theses: https://www.bathopeleconvention.org/ Become a member for all the facts and analysis (R99/month): https://www.thecommonsense.co.za/subscribeWatch or listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1ScOGx3kgd3UqtCrR5ecAKThe Common Sense: https://www.thecommonsense.co.za Chapters:0:00 Leaving party politics: Ndlozi's new vantage point4:15 The 11 Theses, Batho Pele and the vote-and-wait trap19:01 The death of the careerist and the end of the big man22:28 Community funds, safety and the church roof test26:23 An alumni league to fix South Africa's 22,000 public schools30:14 Suing over unfinished projects and a parallel service machine35:42 Siyazenzela: spaza shops and organising for a cause39:40 Revolution is the morning after the march44:28 Black Consciousness, liberals and the lean state51:16 The Bantu education generation54:17 Liberals, the left and the spark of the divine57:15 China, profit for profit's sake and the state's role1:01:43 Mandela, Luthuli and tea with the Institute of Race Relations1:07:59 Subsidiarity and the missing alliance in South African politics1:11:22 Racism, enclaves and the bravery of 19941:16:07 Who failed South Africa's schools: SADTU or Bantu education?1:20:31 Maths literacy and a societal problem in education1:25:16 Communities, history and a conversation to continue If this was useful, subscribe and turn on notifications so you don't miss the next conversation.

  3. Sep 30

    Joshua Meservey: The US Has Run Out Of Patience With SA. Visa Bans Are Only Step One

    Washington has run out of patience with Pretoria. Joshua Meservey, senior fellow at the Hudson Institute and one of the voices behind the new US visa restrictions, tells Gabriel Makin why the Trump administration moved to "the stick", what the five asks actually are, and why he believes the South African government has been trying to run out the clock. He traces the rift back to the Biden years: ambivalence on Ukraine, the Lady R, the ICJ case against Israel, and a UN voting record that backs every anti-Israel resolution while going soft on Iran, North Korea and Assad's Syria. They discuss BEE as a burden on American firms, the farm-murder crisis, AGOA and PEPFAR, and what comes next if nothing changes: in Meservey's view, targeted financial sanctions. US announces sanctions against South Africa: https://www.thecommonsense.co.za/Politics/us-announces-sanctions-against-south-africa-over-racialThe US concerns are correct and valid: https://www.thecommonsense.co.za/Columns/us-concerns-are-correct-validThe deal South Africa should put before Washington: https://www.thecommonsense.co.za/Columns/deal-south-africa-should-put-before-washingtonBecome a member for all the facts and analysis (R99/month): https://www.thecommonsense.co.za/subscribeWatch or listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1ScOGx3kgd3UqtCrR5ecAK Chapters:0:00 Why the US imposed visa restrictions on South Africa: patience ran out8:32 Has it worked? Why Washington expects more steps unless Pretoria moves12:11 What comes next: targeted sanctions, Lamola, and why BEE riles Washington20:07 Farm murders and the ANC's long free pass from the West23:59 Good advice, and 'we are a sovereign nation': the ANC's response29:20 The power imbalance, AGOA and PEPFAR32:53 Reality doesn't go away: the ANC's fading power and the next punch If this was useful, subscribe so you don't miss next week's conversation.

  4. Sep 24

    Princy Mthombeni Wants To Rewrite the South African Constitution

    "South Africa belongs to all who live in it." Princy Mthombeni wants that line out of the Constitution. She chairs South Africans for Constitutional Reform, the movement that grew out of her viral review of the whole Constitution. She tells Gabriel Makin that the Constitution must change in other ways too. She wants the president elected directly by the people rather than by Parliament, citizen referendums, the informal economy reserved for South Africans, tighter borders, an end to illegal immigration, and a new BEE policy, because she says BEE lost its way when "Black" became "broad-based Black". The interview starts with her other cause: why Koeberg is still Africa's only commercial nuclear power station, why she calls President Ramaphosa a "Just Energy Transition lobbyist", and why 600 million Africans still have no electricity. The views expressed are the guest's own. Follow Princy Mthombeni:X: https://x.com/PrincymthombeniFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/princy.mthombeniLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/princess-mthombeni-50aa592a/ South Africans for Constitutional Reform (SACR): https://sacr.org.zaSACR on X: https://x.com/sacr_official1 Become a member for all the facts and analysis (R99/month): https://www.thecommonsense.co.za/subscribe Chapters:0:00 Who does South Africa belong to?0:37 Who is Princy Mthombeni?3:53 The case for nuclear in South Africa7:13 Why Koeberg is still our only nuclear plant10:21 Is there such a thing as bad nuclear?11:40 The NGOs against energy abundance16:50 Ramaphosa, the 'JET lobbyist'17:42 Rewriting the Constitution23:09 Foreign nationals and illegal immigration33:33 BEE: "Black is black"37:10 Nuclear jobs and skills38:08 Is South Africa moving to something better?39:44 Edmund Burke and putting your own first If this was useful, a like and a subscribe help us reach more South Africans.Subscribe for more: https://www.youtube.com/@TheCommonSenseZA?sub_confirmation=1

  5. May 22

    Saving South Africa's Schools - Rob Katzen - Conversations With Gabriel

    In this episode of Conversations with Gabriel, Gabriel Makin speaks to Rob Katzen about how a group of old boys helped turn Johannesburg’s Jeppe High School for Boys from a declining public school into one of South Africa’s strongest education success stories. Rob explains how Jeppe had fallen into serious decline by the mid-2000s, with falling applications, deteriorating infrastructure, lower fee collection, weak boarding numbers, and collapsing academic performance. He then sets out how alumni, school leaders, parents, and partners helped rebuild the school through better financial management, stronger leadership, campus renewal, restored school spirit, and a clear belief that public education can be fixed. The conversation then turns to EduSafe, a new initiative built from the lessons learned at Jeppe. Rob explains how EduSafe is now working with schools in Johannesburg such as Sandown High School, Sandringham High School, and potentially Northview High School to improve safety, restore campuses, strengthen school management, support principals, and rebuild trust between schools and their communities. Gabriel and Rob also discuss why South Africa cannot abandon public education, why school leadership requires business and management skills as well as educational expertise, how basic infrastructure such as water, security, classrooms, desks, Wi-Fi, and functioning bells can change a school’s culture, and why successful public schools are essential to producing South Africa’s future leaders. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Conversations with Gabriel - Bonsai Shongwe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Subscribe to the channel: https://www.youtube.com/@TheCommonSenseZA?sub_confirmation=1Visit our website: https://www.thecommonsense.co.za ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

  6. May 17

    Bonsai Shongwe - Christianity, Colonialism And Race - Conversations With Gabriel

    In this episode Gabriel Makin is joined again by producer, pastor and youtuber, Bonsai Shongwe. The conversation starts on the question of the African National Congress' influence in South African churches. Bonsai explained that while the ANC used to hold huge sway over the politics of South Africa's churches, that influence has waned dramatically. Following this, the conversation turns to Gabriel and Bosnai's frustrations surrounding the superficiality of modern South African political discussion. They lament that the country would be far better served people were better informed about the history of South Africa's Christian values. The conversation then broaches a more controversial topic as Gabriel and Bosnai discuss the relationship between South Africa's colonial past and its Christian tradition. They agree that one of the more destructive influences of the anti-colonial/de-colonial debate has been to rob black South Africans from recognizing that they are a part of the moral tradition that ended slavery, birthed parliamentary democracy and the idea of human rights. Gabriel even boldly suggests that the greatest legacy of South Africa's British colonial history is the spread of Christianity across the country. The conversation ends on the relationship between music and worship particularly in African Christian tradition. Bonsai explains how music is central to African Christian worship as African culture dramatizes truth and music therefore serves as the perfect medium for the transmission of truth. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Conversations with Gabriel - Bonsai Shongwe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Subscribe to the channel: https://www.youtube.com/@TheCommonSenseZA?sub_confirmation=1Visit our website: https://www.thecommonsense.co.za ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

  7. May 13

    The Fight To End BEE - DA Head Of Policy, Mat Cuthbert - Conversations With Gabriel

    In this episode Gabriel Makin is joined by the Head of Policy for the Democratic Alliance (DA), Mat Cuthbert. The conversation begins with Mat's background and then transitions to his role in proposing the fundamentally important "Economic inclusion for all" bill, which seeks to restructure the way that the South African state does empowerment policy. Mat explains that the changes he is proposing would include replacing race with poverty as a proxy for disadvantage, rewarding businesses for broad-based empowerment schemes as opposed to narrow equity requirements and moving away from taxing capital on arrival in South Africa. Mat explains that the policy has been very well-received across the political, business and journalist worlds and has now opened the door for the DA to press the issue until the African National Congress (ANC) is willing to compromise. From there the conversation broadens its scope as Mat and Gabriel look at what the other priority policy areas are for the DA. Mat explains that the DA is making a more concerted effort to push reforms on crime, as the ANC are clinically weak on that issue. The DA are proposing recapacitating the South African Police Service, devolving investigative powers to functional regional or municipal governments and actively pursuing corrupt officials. After this the conversation turns more general as Mat and Gabriel explore the DA's realistic path to reform. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Conversations with Gabriel - Mat Cuthbert ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Subscribe to the channel: https://www.youtube.com/@TheCommonSenseZA?sub_confirmation=1Visit our website: https://www.thecommonsense.co.za ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Mathew Cuthbert and His Journey01:43 The DA's New Empowerment Policy14:33 Shifting the Empowerment Framework in South Africa15:43 DA's Broader Policy Priorities21:25 Addressing Crime in South Africa30:11 The DA's Approach to Reform48:02 Conclusion and Future Outlook

About

The Common Sense's one-on-one interviews with politicians, businesspeople and other fascinating South African commentators