There's $49 trillion sitting in US retirement accounts, and most of it is stuck in stocks, bonds and mutual funds. Mat Sorensen, attorney, founder of Directed IRA and author of The Self-Directed IRA Handbook, explains how to put those dollars to work in real estate, private lending and other private assets, tax-deferred or tax-free. In this episode Mat and Casey cover what a self-directed IRA actually is and why Fidelity or Schwab won't let you buy the duplex down the street, the three steps to set one up, and the few things your IRA can't own. Mat shares how some clients have grown Roth IRAs from zero to hundreds of millions, and his own "base hit" strategy: private loans at 12% plus two points, twice a year. He breaks down why a 10% return taxed at the top bracket is really about 6%, the ways to fund these accounts (solo 401k, backdoor Roth, HSAs, rollovers), the prohibited transaction rules that trip people up, and why he's watching distressed commercial office right now. ABOUT MAT SORENSEN Mat Sorensen is the founder and CEO of Directed IRA & Directed Trust Company, an attorney and partner at KKOS Lawyers, and author of The Self-Directed IRA Handbook (60,000+ copies sold). He co-hosts the Directed IRA Podcast and the Main Street Business Podcast with Mark J. Kohler, hosts the Self-Directed IRA Summit and the Alternative Asset Investor Summit, and has been featured in the Wall Street Journal, Forbes and Bloomberg. CONNECT WITH MAT Directed IRA (book a free call): https://directedira.com YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@MatSorensen Website: https://matsorensen.com Book: The Self-Directed IRA Handbook Alternative Asset Investor Summit, Oct 22-23, 2026, Costa Mesa, CA: https://altassetsummit.com CHAPTERS 00:00 - Cold open: growing a Roth account with no cap 00:46 - Show intro 01:16 - Welcoming Mat Sorensen 03:01 - Mat's background (and being a YouTuber dad) 04:18 - How one client question pulled a tax lawyer into self-directed IRAs 05:38 - Starting Directed IRA 07:28 - $49 trillion sitting in US retirement accounts 08:19 - What a self-directed IRA is and why Fidelity won't do it 10:10 - What your IRA can't buy: life insurance, collectibles, S corps 11:16 - Wild IRA investments: cattle and a pro soccer team 13:20 - The three steps to set up a self-directed IRA 15:03 - How much paperwork it really takes 16:20 - Who self-directing is not for 17:10 - Why it fits high-income W2 earners and business owners 18:38 - Home-run Roth IRAs: from zero to hundreds of millions 20:00 - Mat's base-hit strategy: private lending at 12% plus 2 points 21:05 - Why 10% taxable is really 6% after tax 23:29 - Solo 401k, backdoor Roth, HSAs and other ways to fund 25:43 - $19T in IRAs vs $14T in 401ks: putting old accounts to work 28:47 - Biggest mistake: prohibited transaction rules 31:04 - Lesson two: understanding asset cycles 34:19 - Don't bail at the worst time 35:46 - Advice for busy professionals: get engaged and educated 38:55 - Where the opportunity is now: distressed commercial office 41:29 - Being a vulture in distressed real estate 43:34 - Get around people already doing what you want to do 44:52 - The Alternative Asset Investor Summit 46:37 - Where to find Mat and Directed IRA 47:53 - Casey's wrap-up Join the free Revive real estate community: https://www.facebook.com/share/g/1H1y1et7wC/ Subscribe for weekly episodes on building real estate wealth around a demanding career. #RigsToRiches #SelfDirectedIRA #RothIRA #RetirementInvesting #PrivateLending #Solo401k #CaseyGregersen #RealEstateInvesting #MatSorensen #DirectedIRA