Dish It Dirty Podcast

David Revell

The Dish It Dirty Podcast is where the cleaning, hygiene, catering, and food packaging industries finally get a voice. Hosted by David from Charta Recruitment, this podcast brings together the people, businesses, and ideas shaping the sector. Each episode dives into real conversations with industry leaders, operators, and rising talent. We cover market trends, economic pressures, legislation, supply chain challenges, growth strategies, and what is actually happening on the ground.

Episodes

  1. 6d ago

    The Cleaning Show UK - What You Don't See /w Paul Sweeney

    What REALLY goes on behind the scenes at The Cleaning Show?In this episode of The Dish It Dirty Podcast, I sit down with Paul Sweeney, Event Director at Quartz Business Media and the man responsible for delivering The Cleaning Show.We lift the curtain on one of the biggest events in the UK cleaning and hygiene calendar and talk about what it actually takes to bring thousands of industry professionals together under one roof.Paul shares some brilliant behind-the-scenes stories, including the logistical nightmares that can happen days before a show opens, the huge amount of planning involved and why running an exhibition is about far more than selling stand space.We also discuss:• The plans for The Cleaning Show 2027• What makes the cleaning and hygiene industry different• How The Cleaning Show is evolving• The growth of robotics, software and technology• How AI could impact the cleaning and hygiene sector• Why exhibitions still matter in an increasingly digital world• How companies should think about ROI from exhibiting• What the best exhibitors do differently• How to get more customers and prospects onto your stand• And where Paul sees The Cleaning Show going in the futureIf you're a manufacturer, distributor, supplier, contractor, FM business or simply work within the cleaning and hygiene industry, this episode gives you a fascinating look at the event that brings the sector together.00:00 Introduction to The Dish It Dirty Podcast02:01 The Cleaning Show 202705:03 What It Takes to Run The Cleaning Show09:26 When Things Go Wrong Behind the Scenes15:01 What Makes The Cleaning Show Different?20:13 How The Cleaning Show Is Evolving24:24 The Future of The Cleaning Show24:56 Robotics, Software & Technology27:02 AI in the Cleaning & Hygiene Industry34:22 The Human Side of Exhibitions35:22 Can Exhibitors Really Measure ROI?39:16 Why Exhibitions Still Matter42:50 Understanding What Exhibitors Actually Need50:34 What Successful Exhibitors Do Differently52:10 Getting Customers to Visit Your Stand60:00 Final Thoughts

  2. May 30

    May 2026 Cleaning/Hygiene Industry Update: CHSA Leadership Changes, Lifetime Recognition & Awards Winners

    Episode Summary In the first-ever monthly industry roundup on the Dish It Dirty Podcast, David Revell breaks down the biggest stories shaping the cleaning and hygiene sector in May 2026. From major leadership changes at the CHSA to industry recognition at the Kimberly-Clark Professional Golden Service Awards, this episode highlights the people, organisations and achievements making headlines across the industry. CHSA appoints its first permanent ChairNick Thompson's vision for the future of the CHSALorcan McEtarian recognised with Life Vice PresidencyThe impact of CHSA accreditation schemes on industry standardsWinners from the 2026 Kimberly-Clark Professional Golden Service AwardsRecognition of outstanding cleaning companies and individuals across the UKWhy industry standards, professionalism and recognition matter more than ever00:00 Introduction to the first monthly industry roundup 01:15 CHSA appoints Nick Thompson as its first permanent Chair 04:30 Nick Thompson's background and priorities for his first 100 days 07:15 Why CHSA accreditation schemes matter to the industry 09:00 Lorcan McEtarian awarded Life Vice Presidency 11:30 Lorcan's legacy and leadership through COVID-19 15:00 What Lorcan's recognition means for the industry 17:00 2026 Kimberly-Clark Professional Golden Service Awards 19:00 Healthcare, Education and Office Cleaning Award Winners 22:00 Retail, Hospitality and Manufacturing Award Winners 24:30 Sustainability, Social Impact and Diversity Awards 26:30 Cleaning Team, Supervisor and Operative of the Year 29:00 Why industry recognition matters 31:00 Final thoughts and June preview Key Topics Covered:Podcast Chapters

  3. May 11

    Growing a Hygiene Manufacturer from £1m - £8m in 3 years /w Ali Sharp

    In Episode 2 of Dish It Dirty Podcast, David Revell sits down with Ali Sharp — one of the cleaning & hygiene industry’s most impressive emerging commercial leaders. Ali’s journey is anything but conventional. Starting out in agricultural commodities trading during the 2008 financial crisis, he developed a deep understanding of markets, pricing, supply chains and commercial decision-making before moving into the cleaning & hygiene sector with Kimberly-Clark Professional and later WEPA Professional. During his time at WEPA, Ali helped grow the UK & Ireland business from roughly £1M to £8M in just 3 years, helping build distribution from scratch during one of the most volatile periods in modern business history: COVIDBrexit disruptionEnergy crisesSupply chain chaosInflation & global instabilityIn this episode, we discuss: How WEPA built national distribution from the ground upWhat separates average salespeople from elite performersLeadership, autonomy & accountabilityThe importance of processes, data & attention to detailAI and how it’s changing commercial decision-makingWhy transferable skills matter more than industry experienceThe changing state of the cleaning & hygiene marketIf you work in cleaning, hygiene, catering, facilities management, packaging or B2B sales — this episode is packed with practical insights. Chapters / Timestamps 00:00 – Introduction & Ali Sharp’s background02:00 – Agricultural commodities & trading04:30 – Understanding markets & supply chains07:15 – Entering the cleaning & hygiene industry08:15 – Joining WEPA during COVID10:30 – Growing WEPA from £1M to £8M12:00 – Building logistics & distribution14:00 – Marketing & brand awareness18:30 – Kaizen & continuous improvement22:30 – Building distribution partnerships28:45 – The ‘3 P’s’ framework35:30 – AI, data & sales45:00 – Leadership & autonomy52:00 – Building culture & teams1:00:00 – The state of the hygiene market1:05:00 – Commodity selling vs innovation1:08:00 – Final thoughts & lessons

  4. May 4

    How the Iran War is Affecting Our Market w/ Mike Revell

    In the very first episode of Dish It Dirty, David Revell sits down with industry heavyweight Mike Revell—former Managing Director across multiple major businesses within the cleaning, catering and food packaging industrys and founder of the UK’s largest catering and hygiene buying group, the Socius Network. With nearly 40 years at the top of the sector, Mike breaks down what’s really happening behind the headlines. From geopolitical conflict to collapsing supply chains, rising costs, and broken legislation, this episode explores the forces quietly reshaping the cleaning, hygiene, food packaging, and hospitality industries. You’ll learn: Why the current global conflict could trigger major product shortagesHow supply chains unravel (and why recovery takes months—not weeks)The real impact of inflation, energy costs, and EPR legislationWhy hospitality is under more pressure than everWhat separates businesses that survive vs. those that collapseLeadership lessons from decades in high-pressure marketsWhether you're a distributor, manufacturer, or operator—this is a raw, unfiltered look at what’s coming next. Chapters: 00:00 – Introduction to the podcast & industry focus Overview of the sector and why it matters globally 00:34 – Meet Mike Revell Career background and industry credibility 03:20 – 40 years of change: what’s shifted most? Technology, data, and decision-making evolution 05:30 – The pros & cons of modern tech in business Speed vs. pressure and information overload 07:26 – The global conflict explained (and why it matters) Oil, supply chains, and economic ripple effects 09:00 – Shipping chaos & supply chain breakdowns Why disruptions take 6–12 months to fix 11:00 – Product shortages (gloves, materials, manufacturing) What happens when supply simply disappears 14:00 – How businesses should respond right now Cost control, stock management, and tough decisions 17:00 – Inflation, hospitality struggles & market pressure Why pubs and restaurants are under serious threat 22:00 – Is there any opportunity in this chaos? Timing vs. risk in uncertain markets 26:00 – Price increases: how to handle customers Communication, strategy, and reality checks 29:00 – The hidden killer: EPR legislation explained Why it’s broken and damaging compliant businesses 40:00 – The future of hospitality & changing behaviour Why younger generations are reshaping demand 44:00 – Growth areas: home delivery & hygiene sector Where the opportunities actually are 50:30 – The talent problem in the industry Why young people aren’t entering the sector 59:40 – Leadership lessons from decades at the top Teams, strategy, and decision-making under pressure 1:06:20 – The one thing businesses forget: VALUE Why it matters more than price 1:09:30 – Closing thoughts & final takeaways

    How the Iran War is Affecting Our Market w/ Mike Revell

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The Dish It Dirty Podcast is where the cleaning, hygiene, catering, and food packaging industries finally get a voice. Hosted by David from Charta Recruitment, this podcast brings together the people, businesses, and ideas shaping the sector. Each episode dives into real conversations with industry leaders, operators, and rising talent. We cover market trends, economic pressures, legislation, supply chain challenges, growth strategies, and what is actually happening on the ground.