The Modern Regulator Podcast

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The Modern Regulator Podcast is for regulators and regulatory-adjacent professionals who care about how regulation actually works in practice: stewardship, capability, posture, enforcement, and the decisions that do not always make it into policy documents or academic papers. Hosted by Paul Leavoy and Simon Corden, each episode features a practitioner or thinker with something substantive to say about the craft of regulation. Our focus is on Australia, New Zealand, the United Kingdom, Canada, and other stable democracies where the quality of regulatory practice shapes the quality of public life. The Modern Regulator Podcast is part of The Modern Regulator, a vendor-neutral publication for the regulatory community. Subscribe to the newsletter and find the full archive at themodernregulator.com.

Episodes

  1. Jul 8

    Sandra Parker PSM on capability gaps, coaching regulatory leaders, and the question every regulator should ask – Part 2

    In part two, the conversation shifts from the reform story to the bigger questions. Sandra Parker PSM, former head of the Fair Work Ombudsman (FWO) and now a coach and facilitator for senior regulatory leaders through the Jeff Whalan Learning Group, talks about what she sees consistently in incoming regulatory leaders: the gaps that trip them up, the knowledge that nobody hands over at appointment, and what she'd fix if she had a magic wand. Sandra also discusses the New Head of Regulator Pocket Guide, a practical resource Sandra helped develop through the Commonwealth Regulator Leadership Cohort. It was designed to give new heads of regulator the grounding the system doesn't otherwise provide. You can download it here. This episode covers: The moment she found (or didn't find) her footing as a new regulator The most common capability gaps in incoming regulatory leaders: legislation, social licence, and the practical skills no handbook covers The case for mandatory induction, mentoring, and coaching at appointment, and why it should be in the minister's letter The Commonwealth Regulator Leadership Cohort and the heads of regulator pocket guide Enforcement philosophy: education vs compliance, and where the balance should sit The magic wand question and Sandra's answer, which isn't a policy reform Who shaped her thinking (hint: she went and sat in on other regulators' enforcement board meetings) If you haven't listened to part one, start there. Subscribe to TMR's newsletter for monthly analysis and practitioner insight. Follow TMR on LinkedIn --- This episode is made possible with the support of Objective RegWorks – the software for regulators.

  2. Jul 8

    Sandra Parker PSM on regulatory leadership, isolation, and fixing a 'toothless' regulator – Part 1

    What does it actually feel like to move from shaping regulation to enforcing it? Sandra Parker PSM spent eight years as a Commonwealth Deputy Secretary, close to ministers, consulted on everything, and in the room for every major workplace relations decision in Australia. Then in 2018 she stepped across to lead the Fair Work Ombudsman (FWO), overseeing workplace relations for two million employers and fifteen million workers – and the room went quiet. In part one of this conversation, Sandra discusses the transition that catches so many regulatory leaders off guard: the moment independence arrives and the informal infrastructure disappears. Sandra describes walking into an agency publicly labelled "toothless," with 18 court matters a year, and what she did about it, including a legal interpretation that had been quietly paralysing the agency's enforcement toolkit for years. This episode covers: The isolation shock of moving from policy to regulation and why it's a structural problem, not a personal one The department–regulator relationship: what it should look like, and what it usually does The 7-Eleven wage theft scandal, the Fels task force, and the burning platform Sandra inherited How a capability review and a seconded chief counsel changed the FWO's enforcement postureCompliance notices: from 220 a year to 2,500, and what that shift actually required Part two of this episode is available now. Subscribe to TMR's newsletter for monthly analysis and practitioner insight. Follow TMR on LinkedIn --- This episode is made possible with the support of Objective RegWorks – the software for regulators.

  3. Jun 16

    In Practice: Rob Hortle on the craft of building regulatory capability

    Rob Hortle spent more than 25 years in workplace regulation, most recently as the inaugural Commissioner of what is now the Workforce Inspectorate Victoria. In this first episode of In Practice – a sub-series of The Modern Regulator Podcast featuring longer conversations with individual practitioners – Paul Leavoy talks with Rob about what it actually takes to build a regulator's capability from the ground up. In this episode he talks about the design and governance decisions that shaped the inspectorate from day one, why culture doesn't improve in a straight line, how proportionate enforcement works in practice, and why he thinks trustworthiness is a more useful goal than trust. The Modern Regulator (TMR) Podcast is for regulators and regulatory-adjacent professionals in Australia, New Zealand, the UK, Canada, and other stable democracies who care about the craft of regulation: stewardship, capability, posture, and practice rather than just politics. For more on this conversation, read our previously published feature on Rob and his work on TMR. Subscribe to TMR's newsletter for monthly analysis and practitioner insight. Follow TMR on LinkedIn for new episodes and articles.

  4. May 5

    Regulation as a craft: Keith Manch on building a profession

    Keith Manch has spent nearly five decades regulating almost every major domain of New Zealand public life, from competition law and consumer affairs to gambling, real estate, maritime safety, aviation, and now land transport. In this episode he talks about regulation as a single discipline, the origins of G-REG and the National Regulators Community of Practice, the hard work of building capability across systems, and why he now says that regulation is a political act. The Modern Regulator (TMR) Podcast is for regulators and regulatory-adjacent professionals in Australia, New Zealand, the UK, Canada, and other stable democracies who care about the craft of regulation: stewardship, capability, posture, and practice rather than just politics. For more on this conversation, read the accompanying feature on TMR. Subscribe to TMR's newsletter for monthly analysis and practitioner insight. Follow TMR on LinkedIn for new episodes and articles.

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About

The Modern Regulator Podcast is for regulators and regulatory-adjacent professionals who care about how regulation actually works in practice: stewardship, capability, posture, enforcement, and the decisions that do not always make it into policy documents or academic papers. Hosted by Paul Leavoy and Simon Corden, each episode features a practitioner or thinker with something substantive to say about the craft of regulation. Our focus is on Australia, New Zealand, the United Kingdom, Canada, and other stable democracies where the quality of regulatory practice shapes the quality of public life. The Modern Regulator Podcast is part of The Modern Regulator, a vendor-neutral publication for the regulatory community. Subscribe to the newsletter and find the full archive at themodernregulator.com.

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  • Creator
    The Modern Regulator
  • Years Active
    2026
  • Episodes
    4
  • Rating
    Clean
  • Copyright
    © Copyright 2026 The Modern Regulator Podcast
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