Edge Of Intelligence

Carl Owen

Edge of Intelligence is a conversational podcast exploring how AI, automation, cybersecurity, and digital transformation are reshaping the way leaders make decisions. Hosted by Carl Owen — fractional CIO, cybersecurity executive, and AI advisor — each episode features founders, executives, and innovators operating at the intersection of intelligence and execution. This isn’t a hype-driven AI show. It’s a practical, strategic discussion about what actually works inside organizations under pressure. From governance and data readiness to operational scale and decision velocity, Edge of Intelligence examines how leaders turn insight into action. If you care about building intelligent, resilient, and future-ready organizations — you’re in the right place.

  1. May 20

    From Data to Decision Advantage: Intelligence, Risk, and AI with Andres Andreu

    In this episode of Edge of Intelligence, Carl Owen sits down with Andres Andreu, CEO of Constella Intelligence, for a deep, no-hype conversation on what intelligence actually means in today’s enterprise environments. Drawing on decades of experience across national security, law enforcement, and enterprise cybersecurity, Andres explains why most organizations don’t suffer from a lack of data—but from a lack of decision confidence. Together, they explore how identity-centric intelligence, data-driven risk modeling, and disciplined governance separate signal from noise in a world overwhelmed by alerts, AI claims, and fragmented threat feeds. This conversation goes far beyond tools and platforms. Topics include: ● Why raw data has no value without attribution and context ● How personal and corporate identities are inseparably linked—and why ignoring that creates blind spots ● The danger of automating decisions without human judgment in the loop ● Why many security teams are “fighting imaginary adversaries” ● How intelligence must evolve from episodic reports into continuous decision support ● The overlooked risks of AI data leakage and post-quantum threats ● Why protecting endpoints often misses the real crown jewels: data and identity If you’re a CISO, CIO, CEO, or technology leader navigating AI adoption, enterprise risk, or cybersecurity strategy, this episode will challenge how you think about intelligence—and what it really takes to gain decision advantage under pressure. 🔗 Learn more about Edge of Intelligence and Carl’s advisory work at Proteligen.com

  2. May 20

    From CRM to Growth OS: How AI Is Reshaping Customer Journeys at Scale

    What if your CRM, analytics, experimentation, and automation tools actually worked together—and AI helped you turn insight into action in days instead of months? In this episode of Edge of Intelligence, host Carl Owen sits down with Sid Chaudhary, Founder & CEO of Intempt, to explore how AI is reshaping customer growth through a Growth OS—a unified platform that combines customer data, predictive analytics, experimentation, and AI-powered automation. Sid shares lessons from his time at Adobe, the evolution from sales-led to product-led growth, and why modern SaaS, fintech, and e-commerce companies must rethink how they acquire, convert, and retain customers. The conversation dives deep into AI copilots for marketers and sellers, responsible AI adoption, privacy-first personalization, and why growth today is about compressing the time from insight to action. 🎯 In this episode, we cover: ● Why traditional CRMs and marketing stacks break down at scale ● What a “Growth OS” really is—and how it differs from CRM or marketing automation ● How AI copilots help marketers, sellers, and product teams work faster and smarter ● Product-led growth, signal-based selling, and warm outbound ● AI-driven personalization without violating privacy or compliance ● Responsible AI, consent management, and GDPR/CCPA realities ● Why AI should act as a junior teammate, not a replacement for humans ● The collapse of traditional websites and the rise of LLM-driven customer journeys ● Real customer results, including meaningful conversion-rate gains If you’re a CIO, CMO, founder, or growth leader trying to make customer data actionable—and turn AI hype into real execution—this episode delivers a practical, grounded perspective. 🔗 Learn more about Intempt: https://intempt.com 🔗 Learn more about Carl Owen & Proteligent: https://proteligen.com 📌 Subscribe to Edge of Intelligence for conversations where AI, automation, and strategy meet real-world execution.

  3. May 20

    From Chatbots to Digital Coworkers: Designing AI Agents That Actually Scale

    What comes after chatbots? In this episode of Edge of Intelligence, host Carl Owen sits down with Werner Stucky, Founder & CEO of Stubber, to unpack the rise of AI agents—autonomous digital employees that don’t just answer questions, but complete real work end-to-end. Werner shares how Stubber is helping organizations move beyond hype by designing AI agents that integrate directly into business systems, handle repetitive operational tasks, and dramatically increase work velocity. From purchase order approvals to sales qualification and multilingual customer engagement, this conversation goes deep into what it actually takes to deploy AI agents safely, reliably, and at scale. 🎯 In this episode, we cover: ➢ Why chatbots failed—and how AI agents fix the problem ➢ What defines a true AI agent vs. simple LLM augmentation ➢ How autonomous digital employees integrate with APIs, ERPs, and core systems ➢ The difference between augmentative agents and fully independent agents ➢ Why “deflection rate” is the wrong metric—and what to measure instead ➢ How to think about governance, auditability, and safety for AI agents ➢ Why most AI projects fail—and how to avoid the common traps ➢ The future of AI employees and how agent-to-agent communication will evolve If you’re a CIO, CTO, founder, or transformation leader trying to move from AI experimentation to real operational impact, this episode offers a practical blueprint grounded in real-world deployments—not demos. 🔗 Learn more about Stubber: https://stubber.com 🔗 Learn more about Carl Owen & Proteligen: https://proteligen.com 📌 Subscribe to Edge of Intelligence for conversations where strategy, systems, and smart technology converge.

  4. May 20

    Regional to Relentless: Paul Nolde on Building a Venture Hub for Critical-Infrastructure Startups

    In this episode of Edge of Intelligence, host Carl Owen, fractional CIO and AI advisor at Proteligen, sits down with Paul Nolde, Executive Director of 757 CoLab, to explore how regional startup ecosystems are being built and scaled, outside of traditional tech hubs like Silicon Valley. Paul shares his journey from banking and investment management into ecosystem leadership, and how 757 CoLab has grown into one of the most dynamic venture hubs on the East Coast. Serving founders across Virginia’s Hampton Roads region, 757 CoLab combines incubation, acceleration, and angel investment into a full-stack support system for high-growth startups. This conversation dives deep into: ● How regional innovation hubs compete with major tech markets ● The role of accelerators, startup studios, and angel networks—and how they work together ● Why defense, energy security, maritime, and critical infrastructure innovation are emerging as key verticals ● How AI is transforming founder selection, mentorship matching, and accelerator operations ● Balancing human judgment with data-driven decision-making in early-stage investing ● Measuring ecosystem success beyond jobs created and capital raised ● The importance of culture, collaboration, and long-term thinking in ecosystem building Whether you’re a founder, investor, policymaker, or community builder, this episode offers a practical look at what it really takes to create sustainable innovation ecosystems—and how AI and data strategy are accelerating that evolution. 🔗 Learn more about 757 CoLab: https://www.757colab.org 🔗 Learn more about 757 CoLab: https://startinhamptonroads.com 🔗 Learn more about 757 CoLab: https://mortensendesigns.my.canva.site/2025-757collab-impactreport 🔗 Connect with Paul Nolde on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-nolde-8143546/ 🔗 Learn more about Proteligen’s AI and data advisory services Ask better questions. Build smarter systems. Stay on the Edge of Intelligence.

  5. May 20

    Beyond Dashboards: Amit Mundra on Decision Intelligence That Acts

    In this episode of Edge of Intelligence, host Carl Owen, fractional CIO, CISO, and AI advisor at Proteligen, sits down with Amit Mundra, Founder & CEO of GroFlex, an AI-driven decision intelligence platform designed to move organizations beyond static dashboards and reactive analytics. Amit shares the 25-year journey that led him to build GroFlex—starting with early inspiration from Minority Report to today’s reality of AI-powered, cross-functional decision intelligence. Together, Carl and Amit explore why traditional BI tools fall short, how organizations can uncover hidden patterns across siloed data, and what it takes to turn insights into trusted, actionable decisions. This conversation dives deep into: ● Why enterprises don’t need more dashboards—they need clarity and next steps ● How decision intelligence differs from traditional BI and analytics ● Building trust, transparency, and explainability into AI systems ● Connecting internal and external data to anticipate risks and opportunities ● Predictive, prescriptive, and “what-if” modeling in real business workflows ● The role of consultative AI adoption for mid-market and enterprise organizations ● Why digital twins, cross-functional KPIs, and decision layers are the future If you’re a business leader, CIO, CISO, or founder looking to operationalize AI, align data across departments, and create a real competitive advantage, this episode offers a clear roadmap for what’s next. 🔗 Learn more about GroFlex: https://www.groflex.ai 🔗 Connect with Amit Mundra on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mundraamit/ 🔗 Learn more about Proteligen and AI advisory services Ask better questions. Build smarter systems. Stay on the Edge of Intelligence.

  6. May 20

    Mission, Mindset, and Meaning: Leadership Lessons from a Navy SEAL Commander

    What can CIOs, CISOs, and business leaders learn about transformation from a retired US Navy SEAL commander? In this episode of Edge of Intelligence, I sit down with Jimmy May — retired SEAL Commander and founder of Beyond the Brotherhood and Mayday Executive Services — to talk about leadership when the stakes are life and death, and what that teaches us about leading through digital and AI-driven change. Jimmy shares powerful stories from combat and training, including: ➤ How losing multiple teammates to suicide led him to start Beyond the Brotherhood ➤ Why “risk equals opportunity” and how elite teams learn to thrive in uncertainty ➤ The mission–team–self framework and why it applies just as much to boardrooms as battlefields ➤ How community, purpose, and goals build real resilience in organizations ➤ The ethical tension of AI, robotics, and autonomous decision-making in future warfare ➤ Why mentorship, identity, and mission matter more than ever in times of disruption Whether you're leading a digital transformation, implementing AI, or guiding people through layoffs, mergers, or reinvention, this conversation is a reminder that technology is only as strong as the people, culture, and mission behind it. 🎧 In this episode, we cover: ➤ The story behind Beyond the Brotherhood and preventing veteran suicide ➤ Translating SEAL decision-making to business and technology ➤ Running toward risk without being reckless ➤ Building organizational resilience (community, purpose, goals, timing) ➤ Mission statements, commander's intent, and empowering teams ➤ Identity, transition, and helping high performers find their next mission ➤ Keeping humanity, empathy, and purpose at the center of AI and automation 🔗 Learn more / get involved: Beyond the Brotherhood – support, mentor, or hire: https://beyondthebrotherhood.org If this episode resonates, please like, subscribe, and share it with someone leading through change.

  7. May 20

    Only 3 KPIs: Jon Morris’ Playbook for Profitable Service Firms

    In this episode of Edge of Intelligence, Carl Owen sits down with Jon Morris, founder and CEO of Fiscal Advocate, to unpack how service-based businesses can turn financial data into a real strategic advantage. Jon isn’t just a finance guy—he previously built one of the largest independent digital agencies, scaling Rise Interactive from a $10K business plan competition prize to nearly $40M in revenue before exiting. Now, through Fiscal Advocate and the EngineBI platform, he helps service firms move beyond spreadsheets and “gut feel” into decision systems that fund growth, innovation, and AI. 🔍 In this conversation, we dive into: ☞ Why gross margin is the most important number service firms don’t know—and why 50–60% is the magic range ☞ The simple 50 / 30 / 20 model (delivery, growth, profit) and how most firms quietly bleed cash by ignoring it ☞ Three KPIs every service business should obsess over: 1. Cash relative to monthly overhead 2. Profit margin (and why 20% is the benchmark) 3. Year-over-year revenue growth ☞ How Jon used a homegrown Google Sheets model to run Rise—and turned it into EngineBI, a platform for budgeting, forecasting, and benchmarking ☞ A sneak peek at LUCA, Fiscal Advocate’s upcoming AI CFO co-pilot, built to answer real-time questions about revenue, expenses, and staffing ☞ Why most “AI initiatives” are theater—and the test Jon uses to see who’s actually building something real ☞ The hard truth about leadership: A-player hiring, tough HR decisions, and why you must be willing to do the worst part of the job ☞ How to standardize services, scale teams, and still deliver high-quality client outcomes If you’re a CIO, CTO, founder, MSP/MSSP leader, or service business executive, this episode will challenge how you think about financials, AI, and growth. 📌 Learn more about Jon & Fiscal Advocate Website: fiscaladvocate.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonmorrisramsayinnovations/ Email: jon@fiscaladvocate.com If this episode sparked ideas, subscribe, hit the 👍 button, and drop a comment: 👉 What’s the one metric you’re going to track more closely this quarter?

  8. May 20

    Operationalizing Intelligence: Alexey Sapozhnikov on Building AI-Ready Enterprises

    In this episode of Edge of Intelligence, host Carl Owen sits down with Alexey Sapozhnikov — founder and CEO of Andeavour — to explore one of the most consequential frontiers in modern business: the rise of organizational intelligence. Alexey has spent decades at the intersection of AI, cybersecurity, and enterprise systems. Today, his company Andeavour is helping organizations transform scattered data, disconnected teams, and siloed decision-making into a unified, learning operating system powered by agentic AI. In this conversation, we unpack: 🔹 What “organizational intelligence” actually means in practical terms 🔹 Why most companies have unrealistic expectations about AI 🔹 How Endeavor reduces false positives, improves alert triage, and drives ROI 🔹 The future of agentic AI, governance, and AI-powered workflows 🔹 How leaders should rethink decision-making, culture, and alignment 🔹 Why data quality, governance, and transparency determine AI success 🔹 The shift from AI as a “tool” to AI as a digital workforce 🔹 What industries will be disrupted next — from cyber to supply chain to financial services Alexey also shares: ✔ How Andeavour plugs into existing platforms without “ripping and replacing” ✔ Why the first 30 days of value are the most important ✔ The biggest barriers to AI readiness inside organizations ✔ What high-performing companies do differently Whether you're a CIO, CISO, founder, or business leader looking to operationalize AI, this episode is a masterclass in how to think about the next era of enterprise transformation. Learn more about Andeavour: Andeavour.io Connect with Alexey: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexey-sapozhnikov-%E2%98%81-88494a2/ Learn more about Proteligen & Edge of Intelligence: proteligent.com If you enjoyed this episode, subscribe and stay on the Edge of Intelligence — where strategy, systems, and smart technology converge.

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Edge of Intelligence is a conversational podcast exploring how AI, automation, cybersecurity, and digital transformation are reshaping the way leaders make decisions. Hosted by Carl Owen — fractional CIO, cybersecurity executive, and AI advisor — each episode features founders, executives, and innovators operating at the intersection of intelligence and execution. This isn’t a hype-driven AI show. It’s a practical, strategic discussion about what actually works inside organizations under pressure. From governance and data readiness to operational scale and decision velocity, Edge of Intelligence examines how leaders turn insight into action. If you care about building intelligent, resilient, and future-ready organizations — you’re in the right place.