Doing Business with ADHD

Caleb Bogia-Curles & Jake Brown
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Doing Business with ADHDIf your business wasn't built for your brain, let's change the rules. About the Show Doing Business with ADHD is for the late-diagnosed, the self-diagnosed, and the "I've always been this way but nobody ever called it anything" crowd — business owners and founders who are finally starting to understand why the standard playbook never quite worked for them. Hosts Jake Brown and Caleb Bogia-Curles both have ADHD and both run businesses. Their conversations are honest, a little rambly, occasionally chase a squirrel or two — and somehow still land on real, practical advice about getting clients, getting paid, managing money, and building something sustainable. The rules weren't written for your brain. Let's change the rules. Meet the Hosts Jake Brown Jake is a fractional revenue executive and business coach who works with business owners and founders on marketing, sales, and growth. He has ADHD. He runs a business. He's figured out a lot of this the hard way — and talks about it openly. Jake on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/airballoon Caleb Bogia-Curles Caleb is a Certified Financial Planner who works with ADHD entrepreneurs. He has ADHD. He runs a business. He built his entire practice around the gap between standard financial advice and the way ADHD brains actually work. Caleb on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/%F0%9F%93%88caleb-bogia-curles-cfp%C2%AE-964823b8/

  1. 1d ago

    Behavioral Finance: Why ADHD Couples Fight About Money, Not Numbers featuring Ashley Quamme | S2 E18

    This episode looks at what behavioral finance really means in practice, especially when ADHD, business ownership, and marriage collide. Ashley Quamme, founder of Beyond the Plan, joins Caleb Bogia-Curles and Jake Brown to explain how money issues are often less about math and more about emotion, regulation, and follow-through. They cover the “knowing and doing” gap, why couples get stuck in friction around money, and how outside support can reduce shame and keep relationships intact. In this episode: Caleb, Jake, and Ashley talk about: The knowing-doing gapSmall wins make long-term goals manageableCouples can treat ADHD as a shared challengeA line that stuck with us: ““My brain is gonna follow the things that are interesting, not always the things that are important.” About Our Guest:  Ashley Quamme is recognized as a leading voice in financial psychology, with nearly 15 years of experience at the intersection of human behavior and money. Trained as a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist and Certified Financial Behavior Specialist®, her work has been shaped by a deep understanding of how emotions, relationships, and biases influence financial decision-making. She is the founder and owner of Beyond the Plan, supporting financial advisors in implementing their advice with their clients. Learn more and connect: https://www.beyondthefp.com/about Resources & links mentioned: Ready to do some foundational work for your business? Setup a time to talk with Caleb here: https://calendly.com/caleb-focusedfounderswealthplanning/exploratory-callhttps://www.focusedfounderswealthplanning.com/processhttps://airballoonadvisory.com/https://airballoonadvisory.com/brainfrictionscore/Connect with us: Jake Brown is a fractional revenue executive and business coach who works with business owners and founders on marketing, sales, and growth. He has ADHD. He runs a business. He's figured out a lot of this the hard way — and talks about it openly. Jake on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/airballoonCaleb Bogia-Curles is a Certified Financial Planner who works with ADHD entrepreneurs. He has ADHD. He runs a business. He built his entire practice around the gap between standard financial advice and the way ADHD brains actually work. Caleb on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/%F0%9F%93%88caleb-bogia-curles-cfp%C2%AE-964823b8/About the show: Doing Business with ADHD is for the late-diagnosed, the self-diagnosed, and the "I've always been this way but nobody ever called it anything" crowd — business owners and founders who are finally starting to understand why the standard playbook never quite worked for them. The rules weren't written for your brain. Let's change the rules.

  2. Sep 29

    ADHD Budgeting: Less Guilt & More Choices featuring Kristin McGlothlin | S2 E17

    This episode is about reframing budgeting for ADHD brains so it feels less like punishment and more like a plan. Caleb Bogia-Curles, Jake Brown, and budget coach Kristin McGlothlin talk through shame, cash flow, business finances, and how the right system can reduce stress instead of adding to it. Kristin shares how she helps clients replace avoidance with active tracking, clearer decisions, and enough structure to create more freedom. In this episode: Caleb, Jake, and Kristin talk about: 1. Budgeting can create freedom—not restriction Caleb, Jake, and Kristin discuss how a budget can help people spend intentionally on what matters, without the same uncertainty or guilt. 2. Shorter tracking loops can reduce money stress Kristin emphasizes tracking spending more actively, so people can see what’s happening and respond before avoidance and shame build up. 3. Financial systems should fit the person—and separate business from personal money They explore adapting money-management strategies to ADHD needs and keeping business and personal finances distinct for greater clarity. A line that stuck with us: “Budgeting is simply telling your money where to go.” About Our Guest: Kristin McGlothlin is a budget coach, specializing in assisting people with ADHD. She is a YNAB Certified Coach and an Accredited Financial Counselor. Learn more and connect at: https://www.fiscal-bliss.com/aboutme Resources & links mentioned: Ready to do some foundational work for your business? Setup a time to talk with Caleb here: https://calendly.com/caleb-focusedfounderswealthplanning/exploratory-callhttps://www.focusedfounderswealthplanning.com/processhttps://airballoonadvisory.com/https://airballoonadvisory.com/brainfrictionscore/Connect with us: Jake Brown is a fractional revenue executive and business coach who works with business owners and founders on marketing, sales, and growth. He has ADHD. He runs a business. He's figured out a lot of this the hard way — and talks about it openly. Jake on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/airballoonCaleb Bogia-Curles is a Certified Financial Planner who works with ADHD entrepreneurs. He has ADHD. He runs a business. He built his entire practice around the gap between standard financial advice and the way ADHD brains actually work. Caleb on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/%F0%9F%93%88caleb-bogia-curles-cfp%C2%AE-964823b8/About the show: Doing Business with ADHD is for the late-diagnosed, the self-diagnosed, and the "I've always been this way but nobody ever called it anything" crowd — business owners and founders who are finally starting to understand why the standard playbook never quite worked for them. Hosts Jake Brown and Caleb Bogia-Curles both have ADHD and both run businesses. Their conversations are honest, a little rambly, occasionally chase a squirrel or two — and somehow still land on real, practical advice about getting clients, getting paid, managing money, and building something sustainable. The rules weren't written for your brain. Let's change the rules.

  3. Sep 22

    Why Long Vacations Make Your Business Better, Not Worse | S2 E16

    What if the smartest move for your business was not grinding harder, but designing a life where you can actually take a month off? Jake Brown and Caleb Bogia-Curles kick off Season 2 with a candid conversation about building a business that funds freedom now—not just someday—while sharing hilarious travel mishaps, ADHD-friendly family travel strategies, and practical ways to protect your time, energy, and wealth. In this episode: Caleb and Jake talk about: Building a business that lets you take meaningful time off Jake and Caleb discuss treating business wealth as a way to fund the life you want now—not just a distant retirement.Why rest can make your work—and ideas—better They explore how stepping away from the grind can refresh your perspective, renew your energy, and create space for better breakthroughs.Practical travel strategies for ADHD families They share tips for managing time, money, food, hydration, sleep, exercise, and energy while traveling with a large family. A line that stuck with us: “A real break doesn’t take you away from your business—it helps you come back to it with fresh eyes.” Resources & links mentioned: Ready to do some foundational work for your business? Setup a time to talk with Caleb here: https://calendly.com/caleb-focusedfounderswealthplanning/exploratory-callhttps://www.focusedfounderswealthplanning.com/processhttps://airballoonadvisory.com/https://airballoonadvisory.com/brainfrictionscore/ Connect with us: Jake Brown is a fractional revenue executive and business coach who works with business owners and founders on marketing, sales, and growth. He has ADHD. He runs a business. He's figured out a lot of this the hard way — and talks about it openly. Jake on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/airballoonCaleb Bogia-Curles is a Certified Financial Planner who works with ADHD entrepreneurs. He has ADHD. He runs a business. He built his entire practice around the gap between standard financial advice and the way ADHD brains actually work. Caleb on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/%F0%9F%93%88caleb-bogia-curles-cfp%C2%AE-964823b8/ About the show: Doing Business with ADHD is for the late-diagnosed, the self-diagnosed, and the "I've always been this way but nobody ever called it anything" crowd — business owners and founders who are finally starting to understand why the standard playbook never quite worked for them. Hosts Jake Brown and Caleb Bogia-Curles both have ADHD and both run businesses. Their conversations are honest, a little rambly, occasionally chase a squirrel or two — and somehow still land on real, practical advice about getting clients, getting paid, managing money, and building something sustainable. The rules weren't written for your brain. Let's change the rules.

  4. Aug 11

    From Chaos to Calm: Why Externalizing Your Travel Routines Can Make All the Difference | S1 E15

    Travel can be overwhelming, especially for neurodivergent individuals. In this episode, Jake Brown shares his personalized travel system that minimizes decisions, reduces stress, and maximizes enjoyment, making travel more accessible and enjoyable for everyone. This episode offers applicable, step-by-step systems that anyone who struggles with decision fatigue or travel overwhelm can adapt. By externalizing decisions, creating routines, and choosing supports, you can transform travel from a stressor into an enjoyable experience. Main Topics: Strategies for simplifying travel booking and avoiding decision fatigueHis system for packing, packing duplicates, and preparing for travel daysHow externalizing decisions and routines help preserve executive functionTips for navigating airports efficiently with tools like Clear PlusPractical ways to make travel routines sustainable and enjoyableInsights into how mindset shifts improve travel experiences Doing Business with ADHD is for the late-diagnosed, the self-diagnosed, and the "I've always been this way but nobody ever called it anything" crowd — business owners and founders who are finally starting to understand why the standard playbook never quite worked for them. Hosts Jake Brown and Caleb Bogia-Curles both have ADHD and both run businesses. Their conversations are honest, a little rambly, occasionally chase a squirrel or two — and somehow still land on real, practical advice about getting clients, getting paid, managing money, and building something sustainable. The rules weren't written for your brain. Let's change the rules. Meet the Hosts Jake Brown is a fractional revenue executive and business coach who works with business owners and founders on marketing, sales, and growth. He has ADHD. He runs a business. He's figured out a lot of this the hard way — and talks about it openly. Jake on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/airballoonCaleb Bogia-Curles is a Certified Financial Planner who works with ADHD entrepreneurs. He has ADHD. He runs a business. He built his entire practice around the gap between standard financial advice and the way ADHD brains actually work. Caleb on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/%F0%9F%93%88caleb-bogia-curles-cfp%C2%AE-964823b8/ Resources: https://www.focusedfounderswealthplanning.com/process https://airballoonadvisory.com/ https://airballoonadvisory.com/brainfrictionscore/

  5. Aug 4

    What Your Overwhelmed Brain Wants You to Know About Managing Chaos | S1 E14

    Struggling with days when everything feels off and executive functions are on vacation? In this episode, Jake and Caleb share personal stories, practical tools, and mindset shifts to help you manage burnout, boost productivity, and find grace during chaotic times.  Main Topics: Common experiences of overwhelm and executive function fatigueHow to recognize when you're bottoming out and strategies for jump-starting your dayThe value of the "one song" rule to overcome task inertiaBody doubling and co-working as motivation toolsThe dopamine menu concept for immediate focus boostsHandling unpredictability: weather changes, kids, and schedule disruptionsPrioritizing self-regulation over constant productivityThe power of asking for help and setting realistic expectationsPersonal anecdotes about outdoor walks, water, and music for mental resetsNeurodivergence insights: movement, risk, and sensory preferences Doing Business with ADHD is for the late-diagnosed, the self-diagnosed, and the "I've always been this way but nobody ever called it anything" crowd — business owners and founders who are finally starting to understand why the standard playbook never quite worked for them. Hosts Jake Brown and Caleb Bogia-Curles both have ADHD and both run businesses. Their conversations are honest, a little rambly, occasionally chase a squirrel or two — and somehow still land on real, practical advice about getting clients, getting paid, managing money, and building something sustainable. The rules weren't written for your brain. Let's change the rules. Meet the Hosts Jake Brown is a fractional revenue executive and business coach who works with business owners and founders on marketing, sales, and growth. He has ADHD. He runs a business. He's figured out a lot of this the hard way — and talks about it openly. Jake on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/airballoonCaleb Bogia-Curles is a Certified Financial Planner who works with ADHD entrepreneurs. He has ADHD. He runs a business. He built his entire practice around the gap between standard financial advice and the way ADHD brains actually work. Caleb on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/%F0%9F%93%88caleb-bogia-curles-cfp%C2%AE-964823b8/ Resources: https://www.focusedfounderswealthplanning.com/process https://airballoonadvisory.com/ https://airballoonadvisory.com/brainfrictionscore/

  6. Jul 28

    Changing the Rules: How ADHD Brains Find Hidden Wins | S1 E13

    In this episode, Jake and Caleb explore the concept of "changing the rules" to thrive as neurodivergent entrepreneurs, sharing personal stories, strategic insights, and unconventional paths to success. Whether you're looking for innovative investment ideas, business growth tactics, or ways to leverage your ADHD superpowers, this conversation offers fresh perspectives on navigating a world built for neurotypicals. Remember, the power lies in the willingness to experiment, pivot, and play outside the lines. Your neurodivergent perspective provides an edge—lean into it, and change your rules of success. Main Topics: The "Cornucopia Play": Finding underserved markets and sidestepping competition through oblique strategiesCase studies on unique pathways—military, business, and personal journeys—showing the power of pivoting and non-linear progressHow ADHD tendencies can be assets for pattern recognition, outside-the-box thinking, and risk balancingThe importance of experimentation in business, including sandboxing small risks and trusting your intuitionInvestment strategies that avoid herd mentality—favoring small caps, contrarian plays, and overlooked opportunitiesThe role of externalizing decisions—outsourcing, automation, and collaborative risk-taking to reduce emotional burdenEmbracing the "what if" mindset to keep curiosity alive and push past traditional limits Doing Business with ADHD is for the late-diagnosed, the self-diagnosed, and the "I've always been this way but nobody ever called it anything" crowd — business owners and founders who are finally starting to understand why the standard playbook never quite worked for them. Hosts Jake Brown and Caleb Bogia-Curles both have ADHD and both run businesses. Their conversations are honest, a little rambly, occasionally chase a squirrel or two — and somehow still land on real, practical advice about getting clients, getting paid, managing money, and building something sustainable. The rules weren't written for your brain. Let's change the rules. Meet the Hosts Jake Brown is a fractional revenue executive and business coach who works with business owners and founders on marketing, sales, and growth. He has ADHD. He runs a business. He's figured out a lot of this the hard way — and talks about it openly. Jake on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/airballoonCaleb Bogia-Curles is a Certified Financial Planner who works with ADHD entrepreneurs. He has ADHD. He runs a business. He built his entire practice around the gap between standard financial advice and the way ADHD brains actually work. Caleb on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/%F0%9F%93%88caleb-bogia-curles-cfp%C2%AE-964823b8/ Resources: https://www.focusedfounderswealthplanning.com/process https://airballoonadvisory.com/ https://airballoonadvisory.com/brainfrictionscore/

  7. Jul 21

    How to Find a Trusted Financial Advisor for Your ADHD Business | S1 E12

    Feeling overwhelmed managing your finances as an entrepreneur with ADHD? This episode breaks down how to create a financial plan, find trustworthy advisors, and align your money with your goals — all in a relatable, down-to-earth way. Remember, the objective is to find a trustworthy guide who matches your personality and financial goals—don’t settle for less. Your future self will thank you. Main Topics: The psychological barriers entrepreneurs with ADHD face around money and successHow to recognize when it’s time for a financial planQuestions to ask when choosing a financial advisor, including red flagsWhy you should interview multiple advisors and seek fiduciary, fee-only professionalsThe importance of transparency, trust, and compatibility in financial relationshipsPractical steps for preparing for your first financial planning meetingHow small, consistent reviews and updates can keep your financial goals on trackThe analogy of boats and vessels to conceptualize wealth and business assetsHow to avoid scams and find boutique, trustworthy financial advisors Doing Business with ADHD is for the late-diagnosed, the self-diagnosed, and the "I've always been this way but nobody ever called it anything" crowd — business owners and founders who are finally starting to understand why the standard playbook never quite worked for them. Hosts Jake Brown and Caleb Bogia-Curles both have ADHD and both run businesses. Their conversations are honest, a little rambly, occasionally chase a squirrel or two — and somehow still land on real, practical advice about getting clients, getting paid, managing money, and building something sustainable. The rules weren't written for your brain. Let's change the rules. Meet the Hosts Jake Brown is a fractional revenue executive and business coach who works with business owners and founders on marketing, sales, and growth. He has ADHD. He runs a business. He's figured out a lot of this the hard way — and talks about it openly. Jake on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/airballoonCaleb Bogia-Curles is a Certified Financial Planner who works with ADHD entrepreneurs. He has ADHD. He runs a business. He built his entire practice around the gap between standard financial advice and the way ADHD brains actually work. Caleb on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/%F0%9F%93%88caleb-bogia-curles-cfp%C2%AE-964823b8/ Resources: https://www.focusedfounderswealthplanning.com/process https://airballoonadvisory.com/ https://airballoonadvisory.com/brainfrictionscore/

  8. Jul 14

    The Hidden Power of Nudging Over Accountability for ADHD Entrepreneurs | S1 E11

    Discover how ADHD entrepreneurs can redefine accountability and freedom, turning potential pitfalls into empowering tools for sustained success. This episode explores practical strategies for creating supportive environments that foster growth without guilt or judgment. Main Topics: The difference between freedom and flexibility in business ownershipThe emotional weight of traditional accountability systemsShifting from judgment to nudging: a better approach to accountabilityThe importance of supportive ‘cheerleading’ in personal and professional growthPractical tools like co-working, public deadlines, and visual reminders for accountabilityThe role of self-acceptance and tailored frameworks in achieving goalsThe impact of physical sensations and emotional triggers on accountabilityHow to create a culture of encouragement versus control Doing Business with ADHD is for the late-diagnosed, the self-diagnosed, and the "I've always been this way but nobody ever called it anything" crowd — business owners and founders who are finally starting to understand why the standard playbook never quite worked for them. Hosts Jake Brown and Caleb Bogia-Curles both have ADHD and both run businesses. Their conversations are honest, a little rambly, occasionally chase a squirrel or two — and somehow still land on real, practical advice about getting clients, getting paid, managing money, and building something sustainable. The rules weren't written for your brain. Let's change the rules. Meet the Hosts Jake Brown is a fractional revenue executive and business coach who works with business owners and founders on marketing, sales, and growth. He has ADHD. He runs a business. He's figured out a lot of this the hard way — and talks about it openly. Jake on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/airballoonCaleb Bogia-Curles is a Certified Financial Planner who works with ADHD entrepreneurs. He has ADHD. He runs a business. He built his entire practice around the gap between standard financial advice and the way ADHD brains actually work. Caleb on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/%F0%9F%93%88caleb-bogia-curles-cfp%C2%AE-964823b8/ Resources: https://www.focusedfounderswealthplanning.com/process https://airballoonadvisory.com/ • • https://airballoonadvisory.com/brainfrictionscore/

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Doing Business with ADHDIf your business wasn't built for your brain, let's change the rules. About the Show Doing Business with ADHD is for the late-diagnosed, the self-diagnosed, and the "I've always been this way but nobody ever called it anything" crowd — business owners and founders who are finally starting to understand why the standard playbook never quite worked for them. Hosts Jake Brown and Caleb Bogia-Curles both have ADHD and both run businesses. Their conversations are honest, a little rambly, occasionally chase a squirrel or two — and somehow still land on real, practical advice about getting clients, getting paid, managing money, and building something sustainable. The rules weren't written for your brain. Let's change the rules. Meet the Hosts Jake Brown Jake is a fractional revenue executive and business coach who works with business owners and founders on marketing, sales, and growth. He has ADHD. He runs a business. He's figured out a lot of this the hard way — and talks about it openly. Jake on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/airballoon Caleb Bogia-Curles Caleb is a Certified Financial Planner who works with ADHD entrepreneurs. He has ADHD. He runs a business. He built his entire practice around the gap between standard financial advice and the way ADHD brains actually work. Caleb on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/%F0%9F%93%88caleb-bogia-curles-cfp%C2%AE-964823b8/

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  • Creator
    Caleb Bogia-Curles & Jake Brown
  • Years Active
    2026
  • Episodes
    18
  • Rating
    Clean
  • Copyright
    © 2026 Caleb Bogia-Curles & Jake Brown
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    Doing Business with ADHD