Chain Pod

Chain Social

The marketing podcast that gives you an unfair advantage. The Chain Pod is hosted by the team behind Australia's leading all-female agency, Chain Social. Built for business owners and marketers who want what's working, not what's trending. Presented by CEO, Shelby Van Zwol and Digital Director, Adele Elliott, every episode is education-driven and packed with tangible takeaways - going deep with platform experts, brand founders, and industry leaders on the wins worth stealing and the misses worth learning from. These are the most honest marketing conversations happening in this country, and the missing link in your strategy.

  1. 3d ago

    Spilling the Tea on the NYC Meta Agency Summit

    Welcome to our NYC mini series 🗽🤎 Meta invited Chain to New York for its Agency Summit, and we were one of only three Australian agencies there. The day after, Shelby and Adele sat down in an iconic New York studio to tell you everything while it was still fresh: the new features, the big themes and what the next 6–12 months look like for anyone running ads. In this episode: 💫 Meta Ads Creative Studio: deeper creative analysis, performance by demographic, and industry benchmarking 💫 Optimising for margin, lifetime value and profit, not just CPA 💫 Why your signal back to Meta matters more than ever (and how to fix it if you're a service business) 💫 Live shopping coming to Instagram, and running your lives as ads 💫 Incremental vs standard attribution, explained simply 💫 Reviews and sentiment showing up in ads, and why community-led brands will win 💫 The Meta MCP, AI and the "orchestration era," and why your media buyer is now the coach 💫 What US agencies told us over dinner (spoiler: it blew our minds)Stay tuned for Part Two! 💌 Links & resources: 30% OFF THE META ADS MASTERCLASS. Watch Chain’s 26x SOLD-OUT Meta Ads Masterclass On-Demand, 30% off with code: BFCM30 https://www.chainacademy.com.au/offers/QxW6Eo8j/checkout Connect With Us: Instagram: @chainsocial Instagram: @chainpod Web: https://chainsocial.com.au/chain-pod/ Email: pod@chainsocial.com.au Training: www.chainacademy.com.au

  2. Aug 24

    BFCM Won't Fix Your Cash Flow: Money Talk with Steff Anderson

    We sat down with Steff Anderson of Pinnacle Road, Chain Social's accountant of ten years, and the woman we send our clients to when they need someone realistic in the room. 🤎 This one's for every e-comm founder heading into BFCM on vibes. Steff joins Shelby and Adele to pull apart the numbers behind the biggest sales period of the year. What your margin actually needs to be before you can discount, why in-platform ROAS isn't telling you the truth and the bills that land in your inbox long after the sale ends. Warning: you may want a spreadsheet open. In this episode: 💸 Why MER beats in-platform ROAS as a measure of business health 💸 The 80% margin benchmark, why it's near impossible to move once you've set your RRP, and what wholesale really takes 💸 Where shipping actually sits in your numbers (and why minimum spend thresholds are non-negotiable on lower-priced products) 💸 The case for treating ad spend as a fixed cost, not a variable one 💸 Steff's red flag: never let 50% of every dollar go out the door on ads in your first six months 💸 Why 70% margins and 40% off sitewide don't mix and what a discount does to your perceived value forever 💸 If you can't go big at BFCM, don't go. The birthday sale and January alternatives our clients run instead 💸 The post-BFCM bill nobody forecasts: BAS, quarterly GST landing end of Feb, replenishment stock, returns, peak pick-and-pack, packaging 💸 Why Steff would talk you out of a Shopify loan almost every time 💸 Cash flow buckets, 12–16 week forecasting, and why conservative always wins 💸 What Steff's most successful e-comm clients have in common 💸 How to tell if your accountant actually understands e-comm and the first question to ask them Plus: build awareness in September and October so you're not being discovered for the first time on November 1st, and the very real difference between a healthy P&L and cash in the bank. Links 🔗 Steff's BFCM profit impact calculator https://pinnacleroad.com.au/free-bfcm-margin-worksheet/  🔗 Pinnacle Road — pinnacleroad.com.au Steff is Melbourne-based and works with brands Australia-wide. One-off financial health checks available. Loved this episode? Send it to the founder friend who's about to go 40% off sitewide 🤎 Connect With Us: Instagram: @chainsocial Instagram: @chainpod Web: www.chainsocial.com.au Training: www.chainacademy.com.au

  3. Aug 15

    Ep. 7 BFCM Starts in August: Email Tips For Your Biggest Peak Season

    This week, Adele is joined by Amelia (aka Mims) Chain's Email & CRM weapon and the woman behind the email ecosystems doing 30%+ of revenue for our clients. She's across flows, segmentation, deliverability, loyalty, the lot. And she's here to kick off our BFCM series. Because here's the thing: no one is discovering your brand in November. It's too loud, it's too expensive and every other brand is shouting at the same inbox. The customers who buy from you during BFCM are the ones you nurture between now and then - which makes August, September and October crunch time. In this episode: 💌 The health check every ecom brand should be running right now 💌 The flows most brands never build (and the revenue sitting in them) 💌 Send time tips 💌 The case for hype and the one segment that saves your inbox 💌 Adele's non-negotiable rule for lead gen :eyes: 💌 How to avoid the December hangover Plus we reveal high-converting subject lines you can steal and the Win Your Cart tactic that works for our clients year, after year. Open your notes app. You're going to want to lock in for this one. Links & mentions 🔗 ✨ Email Marketing Masterclass with Amelia and Adele 28 September, Mornington HQ. Small, intimate and in our stunning new space. JOIN WAITLIST HERE ✨ The Email Subject Line Swipe File - 200 Subject Lines you can steal immediately DOWNLOAD HERE Connect With Us: Instagram: @chainsocial Instagram: @chainpod Web: www.chainsocial.com.au Training: www.chainacademy.com.au

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The marketing podcast that gives you an unfair advantage. The Chain Pod is hosted by the team behind Australia's leading all-female agency, Chain Social. Built for business owners and marketers who want what's working, not what's trending. Presented by CEO, Shelby Van Zwol and Digital Director, Adele Elliott, every episode is education-driven and packed with tangible takeaways - going deep with platform experts, brand founders, and industry leaders on the wins worth stealing and the misses worth learning from. These are the most honest marketing conversations happening in this country, and the missing link in your strategy.

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