Hopeful By Nature

Scott Shepherd

There are people all over the world connecting kids and communities to the natural world in ways that build hope and a genuine desire to protect the places where we play. Most of them will never make the news. Hopeful by Nature goes to find them. Hosted by Scott Shepherd, dad, educator, and founder of Wildward Institute, each episode is a conversation with someone who saw a gap and built a bridge. From ocean educators and activists across the globe to conservationists in your backyard — these are the stories that remind us what's still possible. New episodes every week.

  1. 22h ago

    Retired Twice - And Still Passionate About Outdoor Learning

    Celeste Royer has retired from environmental education twice — and she’s still working, this time on a bill headed to the California Senate. Celeste spent over thirty years directing environmental and outdoor education for the San Luis Obispo County Office of Education, running the Rancho El Chorro Outdoor School before becoming a consultant with Ten Strands. She’s been in the room for nearly every major piece of California’s environmental literacy infrastructure since 2014 — the state Blueprint, the California Environmental Literacy Initiative, and now AB 2158, the Outdoor Learning and Environmental Literacy Act of 2026, which just passed the State Assembly 77 to 0. Celeste and host Scott Shepherd talk about what it actually takes to get people who disagree about nearly everything else to agree on kids — and why the bill’s coalition went looking for support from pediatricians and English-language-learner specialists before it ever wrote a page of legislation. In this episode: - How AB 2158 passed the California Assembly with unanimous, bipartisan support - Why “student health” became the unifying frame for the outdoor learning campaign - The California Environmental Literacy Initiative’s Partner Portal, and how it connects teachers to nearly 700 community-based organizations - Scott’s own research on field trips and school motivation - What forty years in one field, and two retirements, actually teaches you about advocacy ABOUT CELESTE ROYER Celeste Royer is a consultant with Ten Strands, working on the California Environmental Literacy Initiative and the campaign for AB 2158, after more than 30 years directing environmental and outdoor education for the San Luis Obispo County Office of Education. 🌿 tenstrands.org ABOUT YOUR HOST Scott Shepherd is the founder of Wildward Institute, based in the Santa Cruz Mountains of California. 🌿 wildwardinstitute.net New episodes monthly. Subscribe wherever you listen.

  2. Aug 24

    How Human Disturbance Threatens Sea Otter Survival | Gena Bentall, Sea Otter Savvy

    A sea otter has no blubber. No fat reserve, no savings account — just fur, and a metabolism that burns through calories almost as fast as it can eat them. Gena Bentall is the founder, director, and senior scientist of Sea Otter Savvy, a Central Coast California nonprofit that's spent ten years turning marine science into behavior change — for kayakers, wildlife photographers, tribal partners, and the businesses that put people on the water. We talk through the physiology that makes sea otters uniquely vulnerable to disturbance, the simple "rule of thumb" for judging safe distance, and why calling people in works better than calling them out. In this episode: Why sea otters have no blubber, and what that costs them energetically The rule of thumb for judging safe wildlife-viewing distance "Death by a thousand cuts": how cumulative disturbance adds up The "publicity problem" of being the internet's favorite cute animal How CAWS certifies kayak outfitters and other Central Coast businesses Calling in vs. calling out: changing behavior without alienating people Otter 841 and the real cost of viral fame for an individual animal Sea Otter Savvy's Northern California recovery work: https://www.seaottersavvy.org/we-were-here-seaotters ABOUT GENA BENTALL Founder, Director & Senior Scientist, Sea Otter Savvy. 🦦 seaottersavvy.org ABOUT YOUR HOST Scott Shepherd is the founder of Wildward Institute, based in the Santa Cruz Mountains of California. 🌿 wildwardinstitute.net New episodes monthly. Subscribe wherever you listen.

  3. Aug 17

    Building a Marine Conservation Career From the Desert | Julianna Acuña, University of Arizona

    Julianna Acuña grew up landlocked in Tucson, Arizona — and fell in love with the ocean anyway, on childhood summer trips to San Diego. One afternoon, swimming out further than she probably should have, a pod of dolphins surfaced close enough to see. She was maybe ten years old. "I think this is my future," she remembers thinking. That moment became a career: a B.S. in Ecology and Evolutionary Biology from the University of Arizona, the presidency of the school's Marine Awareness and Conservation Society, and a curatorship of the largest stickleback fish collection in the country — built entirely from a landlocked state. Right now, Julianna is spending her summer on a Marine and Community Conservation Externship through the National Geographic Society and The Nature Conservancy, researching human-wildlife interactions at La Jolla Cove during peak sea lion pupping season. In this episode, she and Scott talk about what surprised her about the research, why facts alone don't change public behavior, and her plan to build a nonprofit blending mentorship with science communication. In this episode: A childhood dolphin encounter that set the course for everythingBuilding a marine science career from a landlocked state Curating the largest stickleback fish collection in the country Studying human-wildlife interactions during sea lion pupping season at La Jolla Cove Why storytelling changes behavior when facts alone don't Turning research into a self-guided audio tour and public awareness campaign Building a nonprofit around mentorship, science communication, and access The "rule of thumb" for safe wildlife viewing distance ABOUT JULIANNA ACUÑA Marine conservationist, science communicator, and aspiring shark biologist. B.S., Ecology & Evolutionary Biology, University of Arizona. President, Marine Awareness & Conservation Society. Currently a Marine & Community Conservation Extern with the National Geographic Society and The Nature Conservancy. 🌊 Instagram: @monstros_mom ABOUT YOUR HOST Scott Shepherd is the founder of Wildward Institute, based in the Santa Cruz Mountains of California. 🌿 wildwardinstitute.net New episodes every week. Subscribe wherever you listen.

  4. Aug 10

    Why We Only Protect What We Love | Aaron N.K. Haiman, Author of Birds of the California Delta

    Aaron Haiman was six years old the first time he met an ornithologist, wandering the East Bay Hills near his childhood home. That was enough. Twenty-some years later, he's built an entire career, and a philosophy of science communication, on the idea that people only protect what they love — and only love what they already understand. Aaron is a birder, naturalist, and environmental scientist with the California Wildlife Conservation Board, where he manages the state's Stream Flow Enhancement Program. He's also the author of a brand new book, Birds of the California Delta, and has run the blog A Birding Naturalist for thirteen years, born out of frustration that bird scientists and birders — two communities that should have been one — almost never talked to each other. In this episode, Aaron and Scott talk about the disconnect between people who study nature and the people trying to teach it, what it took to write a field guide that reads like a story instead of a specimen list, and what it's actually like to take national political heat for defending California water policy, a wildlife crossing, and a monthly video series about queerness in the animal kingdom. In this episode: Growing up in the East Bay Hills and meeting the ornithologist who changed everything Why "we protect what we love, we love what we understand" is the whole thesis of his work Homeschooling, academic burnout, and "saving up" endurance for an advanced degree Starting A Birding Naturalist to bridge bird scientists and birders Writing Birds of the California Delta and working with illustrator Martha Espinosa What actually gets people to stop scrolling — and why it's garden snails, not evolutionary theory Drake's Beach Sanderlings, the longest-running youth bird-a-thon team in the country Taking national heat over California water policy and the Wallace Annenberg Wildlife Crossing Making the case, every June, that queerness is completely natural — and trying to do it without becoming a savior ABOUT AARON N.K. HAIMAN Environmental Scientist, California Wildlife Conservation Board. Author, Birds of the California Delta (Heyday Books). Founder, A Birding Naturalist. B.A., UC Berkeley; two M.S. degrees, UC Davis (Avian Science, Animal Behavior). 🦅 [link TBD] ABOUT YOUR HOST Scott Shepherd is the founder of Wildward Institute, based in the Santa Cruz Mountains of California. 🌿 wildwardinstitute.net New episodes weekly. Subscribe wherever you listen.

  5. Aug 3

    Earning Trust: Marco Wendt on Wild Animals, Belonging, and the Power of Listening

    A Cinereous Vulture named Clarence didn't like most people. For sixteen-year-old Marco Wendt, working his first summer job at what's now the San Diego Zoo Safari Park, earning that bird's trust anyway became the first lesson in a career built on one idea: you don't get to skip the part where you earn it. Marco is now a spokesperson for San Diego Zoo Wildlife Alliance, where he's spent nearly thirty years working with the animals people find hardest to love — cassowaries, vultures, flamingos, cranes, raptors. Not because they're dangerous, though some are, but because nobody projects easy affection onto a cassowary the way they do an elephant or a panda. Closing that gap, animal by animal and person by person, has become his life's work. That instinct didn't start with animals. Marco grew up first-generation Mexican American in San Diego, one of the only Mexican kids in his classroom, punished for speaking Spanish instead of supported through it. He learned early to hide who he was. A cartoon called Captain Planet — where the Latino character's "lame" power was heart — became the thing that eventually pulled him back out, and it's shaped nearly every program he's built since. In this episode: The first bond that felt like more than an animal, and what a rescued vulture named Clarence taught him about earning trustGrowing up as one of the only Mexican kids in the classroom, and getting punished for speaking SpanishCaptain Planet, representation, and the "lamest power" that turned out to be his life's workThe Plan to See program: giving lower-income San Diego families a real sense of belonging in zoos and aquariumsWhat quality allyship looks like when it isn't performed for credit — "sometimes you just have to listen"Mentoring the next generation, and why he's already thinking about who takes his placeWhy the pandemic, for all its grief, reminded people what connection actually feels likeTailoring hope differently for a room of executives versus a room of eight-year-olds — and why every talk still has to end somewhere hopefulABOUT MARCO WENDTSpokesperson, San Diego Zoo Wildlife Alliance. Nearly 30 years in wildlife conservation and education, working with cassowaries, vultures, flamingos, cranes, and raptors. Builder of bilingual programming and access initiatives centered on representation and belonging. 🦅 sdzwa.org ABOUT YOUR HOSTScott Shepherd is the founder of Wildward Institute, based in the Santa Cruz Mountains of California. As a dad, practitioner, educator, and outdoor veteran, Scott helps schools, camps, and nature-based programs make meaningful experiences academically impactful for learners of all ages. Scott's work aims to design programatic leaders who communities stand behind and attract funders to support. 🌿 wildwardinstitute.net New episodes every week. Subscribe wherever you listen.

  6. Jul 20

    Nature Deficit Disorder & Teaching Kids to Self-Regulate Outside | Amy Reyes-Hauff, Get Wild Wyoming

    A ladybug landing on a dysregulated child's arm shouldn't be a behavior intervention strategy. For Amy Reyes-Hauff, it worked anyway — one example of what she calls a "balanced sensory diet" that only the outdoors can provide. Amy is the founder of Get Wild Wyoming, an outdoor learning initiative now serving over 350 classrooms and roughly 6,000 children across the state. She started the program after years of watching kids in "four-wall classrooms" escalate and dysregulate — a pattern she traces to nature deficit disorder, a near-total lack of exposure to the natural world. Amy grew up poor, sometimes homeless, without toys or a television — and without knowing it at the time, she and her sister taught themselves to self-regulate simply by playing outside. That childhood shaped almost twenty-seven years in early childhood education, from Head Start teacher to Montessori director to founder of a statewide outdoor learning movement. In this episode: Growing up without a choice but to play outside, and what that taught her about calm What nature deficit disorder actually looks like in a classroom The ladybug story: a child on a behavioral intervention plan, and the meltdown that never happened Why nature provides a "balanced sensory diet" no plastic fidget tool can replace How to prepare nervous parents and educators to take kids outdoors safely Scaling Get Wild Wyoming to 350+ classrooms and 6,000 children The wind chill chart: outdoor learning through a Wyoming winter A new micro-credential in place-based education, built with Teton Science School, open to educators nationwide Why outdoor learning isn't a recess free-for-all — it's the same curriculum, delivered differently ABOUT AMY REYES-HAUFF Founder, Get Wild Wyoming. Nearly 27 years in early childhood education, including roles as a Head Start teacher and director and a Montessori director. Partnering with Teton Science School on a new nationwide micro-credential in place-based education. 🌲 https://www.tetonscience.org/programs/wy-place-based-educator-microcredential/ ABOUT YOUR HOST Scott Shepherd is the founder of Wildward Institute, based in the Santa Cruz Mountains of California. 🌿 wildwardinstitute.net New episodes every week. Subscribe wherever you listen.

  7. Jul 13

    Son Como Las Piedras -- A bilingual environmental educator on reclaiming the language he almost lost

    Scott Shepherd grew up jealous of his cousins, who spoke Spanish at home with their godmother — until the language was deliberately removed from the house out of fear it would hold them back in school. He spent years afterward chasing that language himself, sailing around the world and studying abroad to claim it as his own. This week's guest grew up the opposite way. Sergio Corona-Munoz's first language was Spanish — and the world around him slowly taught him to feel ashamed of it. A bilingual education specialist at the Monterey Bay Aquarium, Sergio talks with Scott about the middle school moment that made him swear off speaking Spanish for over a decade, what it took to reclaim it as an adult, and the conversation with his own mother about coral reefs that changed everything. In this episode: — Growing up bilingual, and the institutional and social forces that push kids to abandon one language for another — The middle school moment that made Sergio stop speaking Spanish outside his home for over a decade — Leaving a political science major behind to follow a childhood love of animals back to environmental science — Saying yes to leading Spanish-language science education at the Aquarium of the Pacific, despite the fear — The conversation with his mother about coral biology that became a healing moment — "son como las piedras" — What happens in a room when a bilingual student hears marine science explained in their first language, often for the first time — Bringing ocean access to Central Coast farm labor communities through the Monterey Bay Aquarium's OLAS program — Breaking cycles — what it means to occupy spaces you didn't believe were available to you as a kid, and keep the door open behind you — Sergio's advice for finding your relationship with the natural world by starting with what you already love ABOUT SERGIO CORONA-MUNOZ Bilingual Education Specialist, Monterey Bay Aquarium. M.A. in Agricultural Education, Cal Poly San Luis Obispo. Leads bilingual programming for early childhood, K-12, and summer camp audiences across California's Central Coast. - https://www.montereybayaquarium.org/learning-programs/teen-programs - Sergion on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sergio-corona-mu%C3%B1oz-b86370192/ ABOUT YOUR HOST Scott Shepherd is the founder of Wildward Institute, based in the Santa Cruz Mountains of California. 🌿 wildwardinstitute.net New episodes every week. Subscribe wherever you listen.

  8. Jul 6

    Begin With Yourself - Why Every Kid Needs to Climb and What Sensory Processing Taught Me About Teaching My Own Classroom

    Scott Shepherd has ADHD, and he didn't have real language for what that meant until he became a teacher and started building accommodations into his own classroom — timers, visual cues, time outside. What he didn't expect: those accommodations helped every student, not just the ones who needed them most. This week's guest discovered the same principle from the opposite side of the desk. Emily Wishnick is an occupational therapist and creator of the Hundred Languages of Regulation, a framework helping educators understand how children communicate regulatory needs through movement, behavior, play, and interaction. After over a decade visiting classrooms across Philadelphia, Emily saw the same developmentally inappropriate patterns repeat endlessly — until she built a system to fix the root cause instead of treating one child at a time. In this episode: — What occupational therapy actually is, and why most people have never heard an accurate description of it — Sensory processing as the foundation of how children learn, regulate, and develop — The burnout that led Emily to build the Hundred Languages of Regulation framework — Why climbing, open-ended play, and time outdoors do more for kids developmentally than most structured lesson plans — A real example of underfunded schools handing screens to children who can't nap — and why it's developmentally costly — Research connecting early outdoor access to long-term comfort and reduced fear around natural spaces (Bixler, Carlisle & Hammitt, 1994) — What policy changes Emily believes every early childhood program needs — Why your own emotional regulation affects every person you interact with ABOUT EMILY WISHNICK Occupational therapist (OTR/L) and creator of the Hundred Languages of Regulation. Over a decade of experience across early childhood and K-12 settings in the Philadelphia region. Click here to learn more or contact Emily: https://www.linkedin.com/in/emily-wishnick-ot-746523a5?utm_source=share_via&utm_content=profile&utm_medium=member_ios ABOUT YOUR HOST Scott Shepherd is the founder of Wildward Institute, based in the Santa Cruz Mountains of California. 🌿 wildwardinstitute.net New episodes weekly. Subscribe wherever you listen.

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There are people all over the world connecting kids and communities to the natural world in ways that build hope and a genuine desire to protect the places where we play. Most of them will never make the news. Hopeful by Nature goes to find them. Hosted by Scott Shepherd, dad, educator, and founder of Wildward Institute, each episode is a conversation with someone who saw a gap and built a bridge. From ocean educators and activists across the globe to conservationists in your backyard — these are the stories that remind us what's still possible. New episodes every week.