The Deconstruction Room

The Deconstruction Room

Welcome to The Deconstruction Room, a space where faith gets honest. Here, a former pastor and missionary sits down with one of his former students, also she is his sister, to unpack the beliefs that shaped them, the wounds they carry, and the questions they were once too afraid to ask. Together, they dive into the reality of religious trauma, the impact of toxic Christian culture, and what it looks like to rebuild a relationship with God on their own terms.

  1. 2d ago

    Boundaries: When Saying No Feels Like a Sin

    In this episode of The Deconstruction Room, we're talking about something that sounds simple but can be incredibly difficult for those of us raised in religious culture: setting boundaries. For many of us, growing up in church meant learning to put others first, forgive endlessly, turn the other cheek, and always be willing to serve. We were taught that being a good Christian meant being selfless, available, and willing to sacrifice our own needs for others. But somewhere along the way, many of us learned that saying "no" was selfish, setting boundaries was unloving, and standing up for ourselves could be seen as rebellion or a lack of faith. What happens when the very environment that taught us to love others also made us feel guilty for protecting ourselves? In this episode, we're unpacking how religious teachings, church expectations, and spiritual authority can shape our understanding of personal boundaries. We share our experiences with people-pleasing, guilt, unhealthy relationships, and the difficult process of learning that protecting our peace doesn't make us bad people. In this episode, we talk about: Why setting boundaries can feel wrong when you grow up in church The pressure to always say yes and serve others People-pleasing and the fear of disappointing others When forgiveness is confused with allowing continued harm The difference between being loving and being a doormat Guilt, shame, and manipulation surrounding personal boundaries Setting boundaries with church leaders, friends, and family Why saying no doesn't make you selfish Learning to recognize unhealthy relationships How religious trauma can make boundary-setting difficult Respecting other people's boundaries, even when we disagree Finding freedom in making decisions without guilt One of the hardest lessons we've had to learn through deconstruction is that you can love someone and still have boundaries. You can forgive someone without allowing them to continue hurting you. You can care about people without being responsible for their happiness. You can disagree with someone without being disrespectful. And you can say no without owing everyone an explanation. For some of us, learning to establish boundaries means unlearning years of guilt, fear, and the belief that our worth comes from how much we're willing to sacrifice for others. But healthy relationships require more than love. They also require respect, honesty, accountability, and the freedom to say no. Boundaries aren't about controlling other people. They're about recognizing what we will and won't allow in our own lives. Whether you're struggling to establish boundaries with family, navigating difficult relationships, healing from church hurt, or simply learning to put your own well-being first, this conversation is for you. You deserve relationships where your voice matters, your limits are respected, and your love isn't measured by how much you're willing to tolerate. Pull up a chair. We've saved you a spot. TikTok@the.deconstruction.room Instagram@thedeconstructionroompod Contact Usthedeconstructionroom@gmail.com Thanks for listening! As a new podcast, we're continuously improving our audio and production quality. We appreciate your grace as we grow and learn along the way.

  2. Oct 28

    Ghosts, Demons & the Things That Go Bump in the Church. 👻

    Things are getting a little more supernatural in The Deconstruction Room! 👻🎃 In our second Halloween episode, we're diving into a world of ghosts, demons, and a little bit of witchcraft—and unpacking how growing up in religious culture shaped what we believed about the things we couldn't see. For many of us raised in Pentecostal and evangelical churches, the supernatural wasn't just something we watched in scary movies. It was something we were taught to take very seriously. Demons were real, spiritual warfare was everywhere, and sometimes even the most ordinary experiences could be interpreted as something sinister. But what happens when we start questioning those beliefs? Are ghosts real? Are demons responsible for the strange things people experience? How much of what we were taught about the supernatural came from Scripture, and how much came from church traditions, personal experiences, or fear? In this episode, we're mixing spooky conversations with honest questions as we revisit the supernatural beliefs that shaped our childhoods and examine how our perspectives have changed. In this episode, we talk about: Ghosts, spirits, and the possibility of the paranormal What we were taught about demons growing up Spiritual warfare and the fear of demonic activity Ghost stories and unexplained experiences How religious teachings influenced our understanding of the supernatural The difference between ghosts and demons in Christian teachings Whether ordinary experiences were sometimes given supernatural explanations The fear of accidentally inviting evil into our lives Witchcraft and the misconceptions surrounding it How our beliefs about ghosts, demons, and the supernatural have changed through deconstruction For many of us, fear of the supernatural was deeply connected to our religious upbringing. We learned to be cautious about what we watched, what we listened to, and even what we allowed into our homes. But as we've continued deconstructing, we've started asking questions we might never have felt comfortable asking before. What if some of the things we feared weren't quite what we were taught they were? This episode isn't about convincing anyone that ghosts or demons do—or don't—exist. It's about exploring our experiences, questioning what we were taught, and having a little fun along the way. Whether you're a believer in the paranormal, a skeptic, or someone who still sleeps with the lights on after watching a scary movie, there's a seat for you here. So turn down the lights, grab some Halloween candy, and join us for another spooky conversation filled with memories, questions, and maybe a few things that still give us chills. Pull up a chair. We've saved you a SPOOKY spot! 👻 TikTok@the.deconstruction.room Instagram@thedeconstructionroompod Contact Usthedeconstructionroom@gmail.com Thanks for listening! As a new podcast, we're continuously improving our audio and production quality. We appreciate your grace as we grow and learn along the way.

  3. Oct 21

    Halloween: The Devil's Birthday? 🎃

    It's getting spooky in The Deconstruction Room! 🎃👻 In this special Halloween episode, we're trading some of our heavier conversations for a little laughter, a few spooky memories, and an honest look at what it was like growing up in religious culture during the one holiday that seemed to make everyone nervous: Halloween! For many of us raised in Pentecostal and evangelical churches, Halloween wasn't just about costumes, candy, and haunted houses. It was a holiday surrounded by warnings about demons, witchcraft, spiritual warfare, and the dangers of opening doors to the enemy. While other kids were out trick-or-treating, some of us were attending fall festivals, Hallelujah Nights, or church events designed to give us an alternative to Halloween. And depending on the church you attended, even dressing up as the wrong character could become a spiritual issue! But looking back, how much of what we were taught was actually rooted in faith, and how much was rooted in fear? In this episode, we're having a little fun while revisiting some of the beliefs, traditions, and unforgettable experiences that shaped our childhoods. In this episode, we talk about: Growing up with Halloween in religious culture Whether Halloween was celebrated or forbidden Fall festivals, Hallelujah Nights, and church alternatives The fear of demons, witchcraft, and spiritual warfare Strange rules and warnings we heard growing up Things we were told were satanic Funny childhood memories and Halloween experiences How fear influenced our understanding of the supernatural The difference between personal convictions and religious control How our perspectives on Halloween have changed through deconstruction Not every conversation about religious trauma has to be heavy. Sometimes healing includes looking back at the things that once terrified us and realizing we can finally laugh about them. But beneath the costumes, candy, and spooky stories is a bigger conversation about fear, control, and the ways religious teachings can shape how we see the world. Whether you grew up trick-or-treating, attending church harvest festivals, or being told Halloween was the devil's birthday, there's probably something in this episode you'll relate to. So grab your favorite Halloween candy, turn down the lights, and join us for a conversation that's a little spooky, a little ridiculous, and still full of the honesty you've come to expect from us. Pull up a chair. We've saved you a SPOOKY spot! 👻 TikTok@the.deconstruction.room Instagram@thedeconstructionroompod Contact Usthedeconstructionroom@gmail.com Thanks for listening! As a new podcast, we're continuously improving our audio and production quality. We appreciate your grace as we grow and learn along the way.

  4. Oct 14

    Anxiety Part 2: When Fear Follows You Out of Church

    In this episode of The Deconstruction Room, we're continuing our conversation about anxiety and exploring how the fears we developed through religious teachings can stay with us long after our beliefs begin to change. In Part 1, we talked about the anxiety that can come from growing up in religious culture—the fear of hell, questioning your salvation, disappointing God, making the wrong decisions, and being told that anxiety was simply a lack of faith. But what happens when you begin questioning those beliefs and the anxiety doesn't go away? What happens when you've left the church but still feel guilty for missing a Sunday? When you no longer believe God is waiting to punish you, but you still catch yourself expecting something bad to happen? When your mind has moved forward, but emotionally you're still carrying the fear? In Part 2, we continue sharing our personal experiences with anxiety, how religious trauma can affect our mental and emotional well-being, and what it looks like to begin separating genuine faith from fear-based conditioning. In this episode, we talk about: How religious anxiety can follow us into adulthood The lasting effects of fear-based religious teachings Anxiety surrounding salvation, sin, and punishment Feeling guilty even after our beliefs have changed The connection between religious trauma and anxiety Learning to recognize unhealthy thought patterns The pressure to appear spiritually strong Why anxiety doesn't simply disappear when we leave church Finding peace without needing all the answers The importance of mental health, boundaries, and self-compassion Learning to trust ourselves and our decisions again One of the most difficult parts of deconstruction is realizing that changing what we believe doesn't automatically change how we feel. We can intellectually recognize that certain teachings were harmful while still experiencing the fear, guilt, and anxiety those teachings created. And that's okay. Healing isn't always a straight line. Sometimes it means unlearning things we've believed for decades. Sometimes it means recognizing that we don't have to live in constant fear of getting something wrong. And sometimes it means accepting that anxiety is a real mental health struggle—not a spiritual failure. Faith and mental health don't have to be enemies. Seeking help doesn't mean you've stopped trusting God, and struggling with anxiety doesn't mean you're doing something wrong. Whether you're still involved in church, have walked away, or are somewhere in the middle of questioning everything, we hope this conversation reminds you that you're not alone. You deserve a life that isn't controlled by fear. Pull up a chair. We've saved you a spot. TikTok@the.deconstruction.room Instagram@thedeconstructionroompod Contact Usthedeconstructionroom@gmail.com Thanks for listening! As a new podcast, we're continuously improving our audio and production quality. We appreciate your grace as we grow and learn along the way.

  5. Oct 7

    Just Pray About It: Anxiety, Faith, and the Pressure to Be Okay - Part 1

    In this episode of The Deconstruction Room, we're talking about anxiety, and what happens when faith becomes another reason to worry. “Don't worry. Just trust God.” “Give your anxiety to God.” “Pray about it.” “If you really had faith, you wouldn't be afraid.” For those struggling with anxiety, words like these may be intended as encouragement. But sometimes they leave people carrying something even heavier: the belief that their anxiety is evidence that something is wrong with their faith. Growing up in religious culture gave us plenty of things to be anxious about. Were we really saved? Had we sinned without realizing it? Was God disappointed in us? Were we hearing God's voice correctly? What if we missed His will? What if the Rapture happened and we were left behind? What if one wrong decision changed everything? When you're constantly examining your thoughts, actions, and spiritual life, faith can begin to feel less like a source of peace and more like something you're terrified of getting wrong. In this episode, we talk about: Anxiety within religious culture Being told to “pray it away” When anxiety is mistaken for a lack of faith Fear of disappointing God Constantly questioning whether you're truly saved Hell, the Rapture, and fear of punishment Overthinking sin and spiritual decisions The pressure to know God's will Feeling guilty for experiencing anxiety How religious teachings can sometimes intensify existing fears Learning that faith and anxiety can exist at the same time Finding healthier ways to understand God, ourselves, and our emotions Prayer can be meaningful. Faith can bring comfort. But struggling with anxiety doesn't mean someone isn't praying enough, trusting enough, or believing enough. Sometimes people need prayer. Sometimes they need someone to listen. Sometimes they need professional help. And sometimes they need all three. One of the things we're learning through deconstruction is that acknowledging anxiety isn't a failure of faith. We don't have to pretend we're okay to prove that we trust God. If you've ever felt anxious about God, salvation, church, or whether you're doing faith “right,” this conversation is for you. You aren't required to have everything figured out before you take a seat in this room. Pull up a chair. We've saved you a spot. TikTok@the.deconstruction.room Instagram@thedeconstructionroompod Contact Usthedeconstructionroom@gmail.com Thanks for listening! As a new podcast, we're continuously improving our audio and production quality. We appreciate your grace as we grow and learn along the way.

  6. Sep 30

    Just Have Faith: When Positivity Becomes Toxic.

    In this episode of The Deconstruction Room, we're talking about toxic positivity—and what happens when faith leaves no room for pain. “Everything happens for a reason.” “God won't give you more than you can handle.” “Just have faith.” “Give it to God.” “At least you know God has a plan.” These words are often spoken with the best intentions. Sometimes they can even bring comfort. But when they're used to dismiss grief, trauma, anger, anxiety, doubt, or disappointment, encouragement can quickly become something very different. For many of us growing up in church, there was pressure to always appear joyful, grateful, faithful, and victorious. If you were struggling, you prayed harder. If you were hurting, you trusted God more. If you were angry, you needed to forgive. And sometimes, before we ever had the opportunity to actually process what happened to us, someone was already trying to tell us how God was going to use it. In this episode, we talk about: What toxic positivity actually looks like The pressure to always “choose joy” Christian phrases that can unintentionally dismiss someone's pain Why “everything happens for a reason” isn't always helpful Feeling guilty for experiencing anger, sadness, anxiety, or grief Being told to pray instead of being allowed to process Forgiveness being pushed before healing has happened The difference between genuine encouragement and emotional avoidance Why sitting with someone in their pain can be more powerful than trying to fix it Making room for difficult emotions while still holding onto hope Sometimes people don't need a Bible verse. They don't need an explanation for why something happened. They don't need someone searching for the silver lining. Sometimes they just need someone willing to sit beside them and say, “That really hurts. I'm here.” Hope is beautiful. Encouragement matters. Faith can carry us through incredibly difficult seasons. But acknowledging pain doesn't mean we've lost our faith, and admitting that we're not okay doesn't mean we've failed God. Maybe healthy faith isn't about pretending everything is good. Maybe it's about knowing we don't have to pretend at all. Pull up a chair. We've saved you a spot. TikTok@the.deconstruction.room Instagram@thedeconstructionroompod Contact Usthedeconstructionroom@gmail.com Thanks for listening! As a new podcast, we're continuously improving our audio and production quality. We appreciate your grace as we grow and learn along the way.

  7. Sep 23

    God Told Me You Should… Manipulation in the Church.

    In this episode of The Deconstruction Room, we're talking about something that can be incredibly difficult to recognize when you're in the middle of it: manipulation in the church. What happens when spiritual guidance becomes control? When “God told me” is used to influence someone else's decisions? When questioning leadership is treated as questioning God? When fear, guilt, shame, or even Scripture are used to convince people to comply? For many of us, manipulation didn't always look like manipulation at the time. Sometimes it came from people we trusted. Sometimes it was wrapped in spiritual language. And sometimes we genuinely believed that obeying another person meant we were obeying God. In this episode, we look back at our own experiences and discuss how manipulation can exist within church culture—even when the people involved may believe they're doing the right thing. We talk about: “God told me” and using God to influence others Spiritual authority and the pressure to obey Fear, guilt, and shame as tools of control Manipulation from pastors, leaders, and other Christians Using Scripture to shut down questions Emotional manipulation during church services The pressure to give, serve, volunteer, or stay committed What happens when saying “no” is treated as rebellion Learning to recognize unhealthy spiritual authority Setting boundaries without feeling guilty Learning to trust your own judgment again One of the hardest parts of deconstruction can be realizing that something you once considered spiritual guidance may have actually been manipulation. That doesn't mean every pastor is manipulative. It doesn't mean every emotional moment in church is manufactured. And it doesn't mean every person who says “God told me” has bad intentions. But intention doesn't erase impact. Healthy faith should leave room for questions, boundaries, disagreement, and personal choice. No one should have to live in fear that saying no to another person means saying no to God. If you've ever wondered whether you were being spiritually guided or spiritually controlled, this conversation is for you. Pull up a chair. We've saved you a spot. TikTok@the.deconstruction.room Instagram@thedeconstructionroompod Contact Usthedeconstructionroom@gmail.com Thanks for listening! As a new podcast, we're continuously improving our audio and production quality. We appreciate your grace as we grow and learn along the way.

  8. Sep 16

    Working in Church — The Stories We Survived

    In this episode of The Deconstruction Room, we're changing things up a little and taking a trip down memory lane with Working in Church — The Stories We Survived. If you grew up in church, you know attending church is one thing... working in church is an entirely different experience. From sound booths and children's church to volunteering, ministry, and pastoring a small church, we've worn a lot of hats over the years—and we have the stories to prove it. This week, we're joined again by our mom as we look back at some of the jobs, responsibilities, awkward moments, disasters, and absolutely hilarious experiences that came with spending so much of our lives behind the scenes in church. Not every part of deconstruction has to be heavy. Sometimes healing means being able to look back at where you've been, acknowledge the complicated parts, and still laugh at some of the ridiculous things that happened along the way. In this episode, we talk about: The many jobs we've had in church over the years Working in children's ministry Life in the sound booth Pastoring and ministry behind the scenes The things congregation members never saw Church expectations and responsibilities Funny mistakes and unforgettable moments Stories that probably seemed normal at the time... but definitely don't anymore What we miss—and what we absolutely don't Looking back at church life through a completely different lens today There were good memories, difficult memories, strange memories, and plenty of moments that still make us laugh. So this week, we're putting some of the heavier conversations aside and telling stories from the years we spent serving, volunteering, leading, and occasionally just trying to survive another Sunday. If you've ever worked in church, served in children's ministry, sat behind a soundboard, been volunteered for something you definitely didn't volunteer for, or discovered that “other duties as assigned” is basically the unofficial church job description, you'll probably relate to this one. Pull up a chair. We've saved you a spot. TikTok@the.deconstruction.room Instagram@thedeconstructionroompod Contact Usthedeconstructionroom@gmail.com Thanks for listening! As a new podcast, we're continuously improving our audio and production quality. We appreciate your grace as we grow and learn along the way.

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Welcome to The Deconstruction Room, a space where faith gets honest. Here, a former pastor and missionary sits down with one of his former students, also she is his sister, to unpack the beliefs that shaped them, the wounds they carry, and the questions they were once too afraid to ask. Together, they dive into the reality of religious trauma, the impact of toxic Christian culture, and what it looks like to rebuild a relationship with God on their own terms.

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