Proof of Impact

Gleam Tower Media

Proof of Impact is the nonprofit podcast that actually asks the hard questions. The sector is full of people doing extraordinary work, and a culture that is very good at staying comfortable. No pushback. No tension. Just carefully managed conversations that leave the most important things unsaid. Host Elizabeth "E" Kitzenberg has spent decades inside the nonprofit world, leading major campaigns at Dana-Farber Cancer Institute and Harvard, and now running The Kitzenberg Group, her own institutional fundraising consultancy. She knows where the guard goes up. This show is about what happens when it comes down. Honest conversations with nonprofit leaders. No filter. No apologies.

Episodes

  1. 3d ago

    You Don't Win by Looking Needy | Steve Grove, CEO of The Minnesota Star Tribune

    Steve Grove left a career in Silicon Valley to come home and take on one of the hardest jobs in American media: leading a nearly 160-year-old newspaper into a future it isn't guaranteed to have. As CEO and publisher of the Minnesota Star Tribune, Grove is trying to do what almost no one in the country has pulled off: transform a legacy newspaper into a thriving digital media company without losing the culture, the credibility, or the mission that made it matter. In this conversation, host Elizabeth Kitzenberg talks with him about the business of trust, the case for local news as essential civic infrastructure, and why the way most mission-driven organizations ask for support is exactly backwards. In this episode: Why giving journalism away for free devalues it and how Grove thinks about what good work is worthThe reframe at the heart of fundraising: you don't win by looking needy; you win by looking like a bet worth makingThe staggering decline of local news, and why it drives everything from polarization to voter turnout to charitable givingMaking the hardest calls in leadership, and what it means to reinvent an institution without losing its soulThe myth that a beloved institution's survival is somehow guaranteedBuilding a "swift, clear, and brave" culture through painful changeA conversation about ambition, reinvention, and treating the work you believe in like it's worth betting on. 🎙️ Proof of Impact is a production of Gleam Tower Media, recorded at Picnic Linden Hills in southwest Minneapolis. 📬 Connect with Elizabeth Kitzenberg on LinkedIn, or learn more about nonprofit consulting at thekitzenberggroup.com.

  2. Aug 14

    Is Gun Violence Actually Solvable? | Maggie Emery, Protect Minnesota

    Maggiy Emery leads Protect Minnesota, the only statewide, independent gun violence prevention organization in the state. Her work sits at the intersection of the most contentious politics in America — and she approaches it with a clarity that's hard to look away from: this is a solvable problem. In this conversation, host Elizabeth Kitzenberg talks with Maggiy about what most people get wrong about gun violence, why she doesn't spend her energy trying to change the minds of her fiercest opponents, and how she makes the case for funding work whose success is measured in lives that don't end. They also talk honestly about the human cost of carrying this work — leading through the aftermath of tragedy, and what it takes to keep going when the stakes never let up. In this episode: Why the story most people carry about gun violence misses the majority of itThe strategy of organizing the 70% who already agree, instead of chasing the 5% who never willHow gun violence intersects with nearly every other cause funders care aboutWhy she refuses to charge for services that save lives — and how that shapes her funding modelBeing honest with donors about money, and refusing to apologize for the askWhat it costs to lead through tragedy, and the question of resilience she's still working outA conversation about clarity, agency, and refusing to accept that the way things are is the way they have to be. 🎙️ Proof of Impact is a production of Gleam Tower Media, recorded at Picnic Linden Hills in southwest Minneapolis. 📬 Connect with Elizabeth Kitzenberg on LinkedIn, or learn more about nonprofit consulting at thekitzenberggroup.com.

  3. Jul 31

    All Victories Are Temporary | Chris Knopf, Friends of the Boundary Waters

    "All victories are temporary, and every defeat is permanent." That's how Chris Knopf describes the fight to protect one of Minnesota's most beloved places. As executive director of Friends of the Boundary Waters, he leads the advocacy, education, and conservation work to keep the Boundary Waters clean, wild, and open to everyone. This is a fight his organization has waged, in one form or another, for 50 years. In this episode, host Elizabeth Kitzenberg talks with Chris about what it takes to lead that fight without burning out: the entrepreneurial mindset he brings to nonprofit leadership, why he refuses to let his team embrace scarcity, and how meeting the moment turned a planned fundraiser into an overwhelming show of support. In this episode: Why Chris runs a conservation nonprofit like an entrepreneur (and where that instinct came from)The decision to move a fundraiser up by a week to meet a political moment, and what happened when they didWhy he'd "blow up" the way charities are judged on overheadThe case for nonprofits embracing advocacy, lobbying, and politics rather than fearing those wordsGetting kids who live at the edge of the wilderness into it for the first timeWhat it means to build a movement, not just an organizationA conversation about urgency, nerve, and refusing to sit on the sidelines when the stakes are permanent. 🎙️ Proof of Impact is a production of Gleam Tower Media, recorded at Picnic Linden Hills in southwest Minneapolis. 📬 Connect with Elizabeth Kitzenberg on LinkedIn, or learn more about nonprofit consulting at thekitzenberggroup.com.

  4. Jul 17

    Why Nonprofits Need to Stop Being Afraid of Ambition | Jazz Hampton

    Since posting, Jazz has stepped down as CEO of TurnSignl. -- Jazz Hampton has sat in every seat that shapes how a community solves its problems: as a nonprofit board member, a for-profit founder, and a candidate for public office. In this wide-ranging conversation, he and host Elizabeth Kitzenberg dig into what the nonprofit sector can learn from the way startups ask for money and why confidence, not scarcity, is the real fundraising strategy. Jazz co-founded TurnSignl, an app that connects drivers to a live attorney in the moment they need one most, in the wake of George Floyd's murder. He built it as a for-profit on purpose. Along the way, he's served on the boards of Catholic Charities Twin Cities, the Minneapolis Foundation, and the Great North Innocence Project, helped exonerate a man wrongfully imprisoned for nearly two decades, and ran a campaign for mayor of Minneapolis. In this episode: "Call your shot" — why asking for advice gets you money, and asking for money gets you adviceThe marathon-with-no-food problem: how "doing more with less" became a badge of honor that holds the sector backWhat people actually want from leaders in a crisis: a vision, not a ten-point planWhy the "Midas touch" leader's real job is to give it away and build an organization that outlasts themWhy nonprofits hide failure when startups treat it as a badge of honorThe myth Jazz wants to bust about who the "talented" people really areHow a board should empower a leader and when to step backA conversation about confidence, storytelling, and refusing to make the work smaller than it is. 🎙️ Proof of Impact is a production of Gleam Tower Media, recorded at Picnic Linden Hills in southwest Minneapolis. 📬 Connect with Elizabeth Kitzenberg on LinkedIn or learn more about nonprofit consulting at thekitzenberggroup.com.

  5. Jun 26

    What We Lose When We Lose Restaurants | Stephanie March and Tracy Dyer, Salt Cure Fund

    When Operation Metro Surge swept the Twin Cities last winter, the restaurant industry was hit first and hardest, but they stayed quiet about it, because hospitality's whole job is to project joy even when the bottom is falling out. Steph March and Tracy Dyer didn't wait for permission to respond. Within weeks, the two of them (outsiders to philanthropy, insiders to food and community) stood up the Salt Cure Fund, partnered with the Minneapolis Foundation, and started moving emergency grants to restaurants that couldn't afford to wait for a traditional funding cycle. In this episode, host Elizabeth "E" Kitzenberg digs into how they did it, and what the rest of the sector can learn from two people who didn't know the rules well enough to be slowed down by them. In this episode: Why restaurants are "third spaces," the community anchors where organizing happens, isolation breaks, and small businesses beginThe case for radical transparency: why Salt Cure published exactly how much money they had, and how they decided who got it"Build the plane while you fly it," standing up a grantmaking operation in a week when you can't legally form a nonprofit that fastHow a single trade-magazine article turned into a national Day of Giving and a $200K corporate matchWhy the biggest restaurant groups mostly declined the money (and what they did instead)What "proof of impact" looks like when the dollars raised will never match the scale of the lossA conversation about speed, honesty, and the unglamorous infrastructure of showing up for each other. 🎙️ Proof of Impact is a production of Gleam Tower Media, recorded at Picnic Linden Hills in southwest Minneapolis. 📬 Connect with Elizabeth "E" Kitzenberg on LinkedIn, or learn more about nonprofit consulting at thekitzenberggroup.com.

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Proof of Impact is the nonprofit podcast that actually asks the hard questions. The sector is full of people doing extraordinary work, and a culture that is very good at staying comfortable. No pushback. No tension. Just carefully managed conversations that leave the most important things unsaid. Host Elizabeth "E" Kitzenberg has spent decades inside the nonprofit world, leading major campaigns at Dana-Farber Cancer Institute and Harvard, and now running The Kitzenberg Group, her own institutional fundraising consultancy. She knows where the guard goes up. This show is about what happens when it comes down. Honest conversations with nonprofit leaders. No filter. No apologies.