Sarah Fathallah and Christine Johnston join us this week to dig into the orientalist roots of corporate AI empires. We talk about the ways in which AI corporations ground their goals in frameworks of white supremacy and western imperialist values, how universities are throwing themselves on the AI bandwagon, and how the AI systems that have wormed their way into our everyday lives are built on the dispossession of Palestinian land and lives. Sarah Fathallah (they/any) is an abolitionist community organizer and an MSt candidate in AI Ethics and Society at the University of Cambridge, where they research the carceral impacts of surveillance tech. Sarah is also a member of Survived & Punished California, anti-surveillance coalitions against technologies like Flock and ShotSpotter, and participatory defense committees in support of activists, undocumented migrants, and criminalized survivors. Christine Johnston is an Associate Professor of Ancient Mediterranean History and affiliate faculty in Anthropology at Western Washington University in Bellingham, Washington. Her archaeological research focuses on environmental and economic histories of the eastern Mediterranean, North Africa, and West Asia in antiquity. She also spends much of her time focused on cultural heritage, public history and pedagogy, and the digital humanities. Additional Resources: Organizations and Resources Algorithm Watch Data Workers Inquiry Distributed AI Research Institute (DAIR) NAACP – Stop Dirty Data Centers Surveillance Watch The Human Error Project Indigenous AI Recommended Readings Aboeid, S. 2025. “Digitized Captivity: AI Surveillance and the Global Fabric of Policing.” Scalawag Magazine. October 21, 2025. https://scalawagmagazine.org/2025/10/digitized-captivity-ai-surveillance-and-the-global-fabric-of-policing/. Adams, R. 2025. The new empire of AI: The future of global inequality. Polity Press. Al-Khatib, I., A. Bishara, S. Fathallah, M. Sepahpour, and R. Natsheh. 2026. Digital Domination: AI, Surveillance, and Digital Power in Palestine and Beyond. 7amleh – The Arab Center for the Advancement of Social Media. https://7amleh.org/storage/posts/pdf/af9d8f67-334d-465e-bd9d-c5bd1800bbf4.pdf. Amnesty International. 2023. Automated Apartheid: How facial recognition fragments, segregates and controls Palestinians in the OPT. https://www.amnesty.org/en/documents/mde15/6701/2023/en/. Bender, E., M., T. Gebru, A. McMillan-Major, and S. Shmitchell. 2021. On the Dangers of Stochastic Parrots: Can Language Models Be Too Big? 🦜. In Proceedings of the 2021 ACM Conference on Fairness, Accountability, and Transparency (pp. 610–623). Association for Computing Machinery. https://doi.org/10.1145/3442188.3445922 Bender, E. M., and A. Hanna. 2025. The AI con: How to fight big tech’s hype and create the future that we want. Harper Collins Publishers. Benjamin, R. 2019. Race After Technology: Abolitionist Tools for the New Jim Code. Polity. Crawford, K. 2021. Atlas of AI. Yale University Press. D’Ignazio, C, and L. Klein. 2020. Data feminism. MIT Press. Eubanks, V. 2018. Automating inequality: How high-tech tools profile, police, and punish the poor. St. Martin’s Press. Fathallah, S. 2025. “Artificial Intelligence and the Orchestration of Palestinian Life and Death.” Tech Policy. August 12, 2025. https://www.techpolicy.press/artificial-intelligence-and-the-orchestration-of-palestinian-life-and-death/. Fathallah, S. 2026. “Algorithmic Death-World: Artificial Intelligence and the Case of Palestine.” Public Humanities 2: e7. https://doi.org/10.1017/pub.2025.10113 Fathallah, S., and N. Mitchell. 2026. “Occupied Assets: Israeli Neoliberalism and the Datafication of Palestinian Life.” Disjunctions Jan 2026 (1). https://disjunctionsmag.com/articles/occupied-assets/. Hao, Karen. 2025. Empire of AI: Dreams and Nightmares in Sam Altman’s OpenAI. New York: Penguin Books. Lewis, J.E. et al. (ed.), Indigenous Protocol and Artificial Intelligence Position Paper. Honolulu, Hawaiʻi: The Initiative for Indigenous Futures and the Canadian Institute for Advanced Research (CIFAR) DOI: 10.11573/spectrum.library.concordia.ca.00986506. Loewenstein, Antony. 2023. The Palestine Laboratory: How Israel Exports the Technology of Occupation Around the World. New York: Verso Books. Noble, S. U. 2018. Algorithms of oppression: How search engines reinforce racism. New York University Press. O’Neil, C. 2016. Weapons of math destruction: How big data increases inequality and threatens democracy. Crown. Sadowski, J. 2025. The mechanic and the luddite: A ruthless criticism of technology and capitalism. University of California Press. Tawil-Souri, H. 2026. “Bitification and the Gaza Genocide.” Communication, Culture and Critique 19 (1): 13–18. Wind, M. 2024. Towers of Ivory and Steel: How Israeli Universities Deny Palestinian Freedom. New York: Verso Books. The Everyday Orientalism Podcast explores how Orientalism continues to have deep ramifications in our everyday lives, for how we think about settler-colonialism, liberation, and how empire and capitalism continue to exploit and dehumanize the majority of us. Defined by Palestinian American literary scholar Edward Said, Orientalism is “a Western style for dominating, restructuring, and having authority over the Orient.” Our podcast celebrates the 10th anniversary of the platform Everyday Orientalism. Host: Girish Daswani Editor and producer: Taylor Stark Research assistant: Sophie Plotkin Intro music: Madame Salame – Decaf