The White Stones Podcast

Dr. J McCleese
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What happens when a Christian becomes a psychologist and sex therapist? That's not the setup to a bad joke. It's the start of a daring leap into the messy conversations that matter most — ones intended to point you to the life-changing power of Jesus. Dr. Jessica McCleese (Dr. J) has spent nearly two decades sitting with real people navigating trauma, shame, and sexual brokenness. Most of them have been Christians — people searching for practical answers that actually align with their faith and the Word of God. Therapy can help, but Dr. J is the first to say it: the only true healing comes from Christ. In a world that preaches freedom of choice and crowns personal truth as supreme, Dr. J invites her listeners into the tension rather than away from it, pointing to Jesus with both truth and love. Rooted in the book of Revelation, the name White Stones speaks to the intimate, personal relationship each believer can have with Christ. That spirit of honest, personal encounter shapes every conversation on this show. Each episode weaves Dr. J's clinical expertise together with the lived authority of her guests — people whose stories of trauma, shame, and broken sexuality reveal God's redemptive work in ways unique to each individual, yet consistent with His character as a good God. Together, they tackle the hard stuff with unashamed honesty and the audacious hope that Jesus truly makes all things new. If you're looking for a space where faith is deeply rooted, refreshingly honest, and genuinely practical — you're home. Grab your coffee and let's go.

  1. 1d ago

    Ep20: When The Past Follows You Into Marriage

    After sharing her testimony, Dr. J reflects on how past hurt can shape the way we approach relationships and marriage. She explores the role of faith in healing, learning new patterns, and growing as a partner—and offers practical ways to notice and express what you appreciate in your spouse. Drawing on her experience as a psychologist and her own 17-year marriage, Dr. J discusses how seeking God and practicing intentional encouragement can support a healthier relationship. She also acknowledges that every relationship is different and that abuse should never be excused. If your past makes a healthy relationship feel out of reach, this episode offers thoughtful encouragement and practical ideas for taking a next step.

  2. Oct 30

    Ep19: In The Hot Seat - My Testimony

    In this special episode of the White Stones Podcast, Dr. J steps out of the interviewer's seat and into the hot seat. Her friend Terri, a previous guest on the show, takes over to ask about her story. Dr. J talks about growing up with two first-generation Christian parents, and about the chaos and brokenness she carried into her teen years. She tells the story of May 12, 1998, when she ran to the mercy seat and realized for the first time that Jesus loves her.  She also covers: Why following Jesus was both immediate and a long journeyHow she thinks about forgiveness, including forgiving someone who hurt herHow a single comment on a college paper, "Who hurt you?," led her toward counseling and psychologyWhat she would tell her younger self: you are so lovedThe episode ends with a prayer for anyone listening who is searching or ready to take a step of faith. Listen in, then think of one thing God has done in your life and share it with someone. If this episode encouraged you, subscribe and share it so others can find it.

  3. Oct 23

    Ep18: After the Interview - God Uses Our Pain

    In this reflection episode, I look back on my recent interview with Annetta Caldwell. She shares her testimony of coming out of witchcraft and drug use and finding Jesus. If you haven't heard that conversation yet, I'd encourage you to listen to it first. Here are the main things I take up in this episode: God uses our triggers. Psychology often treats a trigger as a reminder of where someone hurt us. Annetta sees it differently: God can use triggers to show us where we need healing. Inner healing and prayer ministry. I was taught to be cautious about these ministries. I talk about why I'm seeing them differently now, and why they've meant so much to the people I've interviewed.Suffering and grace. I talk about how a close relationship with Christ makes suffering more bearable, even though it never makes abuse okay.When the person who hurt you becomes a Christian. What does it mean to be a brother or sister in Christ with someone who harmed you?Learning to trust again. When others have hurt us, we can wall ourselves off. I talk about why growing in relationship and discipleship matters.No matter what your story is or how far you've been, God loves you and wants a relationship with you. He can bring healing and restoration, even through the pain.

  4. Oct 16

    Ep17: From Witchcraft to Jesus - A Story of Deliverance and Healing

    She was abused, drawn into witchcraft, trapped in drugs, and desperate for acceptance - then God interrupted her story in a way she still can’t explain. Annetta Caldwell shares the raw, unfiltered testimony behind her book and Bible study, including the spiritual warfare, the fear, and the moment she finally cried out, “God, if you’re real, you’re gonna have to help me. ”Annetta’s story moves from childhood trauma to Ouija boards, séances, blood rituals, and the counterfeit comfort of “belonging,” revealing how easily pain can open the door to deception. But the turning point comes in the most unexpected place: an AA meeting, a mysterious woman on the bus, and a divine encounter that led her to surrender to Jesus for real. You’ll discover: How abuse and rejection fed her search for control, identity, and acceptanceWhy witchcraft, New Age practices, and “white magic” feel so convincing at firstWhat happened when she realized mixture is not harmless, especially when Jesus is left outHow God used triggers, memory work, and inner healing to uncover deeper woundsWhy her testimony now includes not just salvation, but deliverance, healing, and family redemptionAnnetta also opens up about the trauma that shaped her fear, the healing process God used to restore trust, and the way He kept showing up long after her first prayer. Her story makes one thing clear: the enemy loves counterfeit peace, but Jesus still heals what nothing else can reach. Essential listening if you’ve ever wondered whether God can really redeem a broken past, break spiritual strongholds, or reach the people you’ve been praying for. This episode will leave you hopeful, challenged, and reminded that no one is ever too far gone.

  5. Oct 9

    Ep16: After the Interview: Thoughts on Faith and Healing

    If you have ever been hurt by Christians, a church, or a home that claimed the name of Christ but did not live like Him, you are not alone. That kind of pain can make faith feel confusing, unsafe, or even impossible to trust.  In this reflection on a previous interview, Dr. J. explores three connected ideas: how poor representation of Christ can affect someone’s faith, why healing often involves facing the hurt with care and support, and how following Jesus shapes the way we treat others. If you have been trying to make sense of a painful experience, this conversation offers room to reflect—and hope for healing. The interview also prompted reflection on how Christian character shows up in daily life. Rather than reducing masculinity or femininity to stereotypes, we can ask how qualities like courage, care, responsibility, wisdom, and love are shaped by following Jesus.That kind of reflection begins with our own choices: how we listen, how we use our strength, how we care for others, and how we respond when we fall short. A Christ-centered life is not about performing perfection. It is about continuing to grow in love, humility, and faithfulness.In this follow-up to the interview, we return to difficult but important questions about pain, faith, and healing. It is an invitation to reflect on what happened, consider what support might help, and hold onto the possibility of a healthier way forward.

  6. Sep 25

    Ep15: Why Shame is a Poor Measure of Salvation and Growth

    The advice that finally set Tom free had almost nothing to do with behavior and everything to do with identity. If you’ve ever felt trapped in shame, stuck in cycles you cannot break, or unsure whether God is even still working in your life, this conversation will hit home fast. Tom shares the raw story behind his transformation from sexual addiction, binge drinking, abuse, and a crushing father wound into a life marked by healing, purpose, and real freedom. Along the way, he and Dr. J uncover the moment a quiet question reframed everything, why condemnation kept him stuck for years, and how a new understanding of God’s love began changing what self-control could never fix. You’ll discover: why Tom believed he was un-savable for years after coming to Christthe conversation that helped him realize guilt was actually evidence of spiritual lifehow inner-healing ministry changed the way he saw his pastwhy “His pain, our gain” is more than a phrase, it’s a theology of healingwhat true masculinity looks like when it is rooted in Jesus, not image, force, or performanceDr. J helps connect the dots between trauma, identity, and discipleship, while Tom explains how prayer, community, and honest confrontation with pain opened the door to lasting change. His stories from Virginia Beach, California, Kenya, and ministry with Desert Stream reveal a process that is both deeply personal and powerfully practical. If you have ever wondered whether your history is too messy, your habits too entrenched, or your story too broken for God to redeem, this episode offers a hopeful answer. Freedom may not come from trying harder. It may come from finally seeing who you are in Christ.

  7. Sep 18

    Ep14: Ready for Behavior Change? Start With The Heart.

    Real freedom starts with what you believe, not just what you do. Through the review of a bit of research, the picture is striking. Women are reporting porn use more often than many assume, and the shame around it can make them feel like they have nowhere safe to turn. In this reflection episode, Dr. J reminds you that lasting behavioral change comes when the heart changes. You don’t need behavior modification or more self-help, but a reorientation toward Jesus, truth, and the God who remembers you. There’s a difference between knowing God’s promises intellectually and actually leaning your life on them, especially when pain has taught you to believe lies.If you’ve ever wrestled with pornography, anxiety, depression, trauma, or the feeling that freedom is for someone else, this episode offers both clarity and hope.  Also, if you want to refer to the women’s resource I mentioned here, check out “Beggar’s Daughter” for more info on freedom from porn.

  8. Sep 11

    Ep13: The Quiet Bible Habit That Changed a Broken Life With Terri LaShae

    Pornography, trauma, and rage do not get the final word - Jesus does. Terri shares the raw story of childhood abuse, fear, secrecy, and how a single altar moment became the turning point that broke shame and set her on a path to lasting freedom. What starts in childhood echoes into her teen years: a home marked by violence, a predator’s lies, and the secret addiction that followed her into high school, athletics, and college. But this episode is not just about what wounded her - it is about the surprising way God kept drawing her back through Scripture, hunger, and small moments of grace long before she ever ran to the altar. You’ll hear how a challenge to read Proverbs unlocked a deeper hunger for the Word, why the word “remember” became a spiritual anchor, and how Terri learned that freedom is not just a one-time miracle - it is something you protect with community, accountability, prayer, and the disciplined guarding of your eyes. We break down: how childhood trauma can shape fear, anger, and secrecy for yearswhy pornography can be a hidden struggle for women too, not just menwhat changed when Terri finally confessed everything to Jesushow Scripture, concordances, and daily renewal became part of her healingwhy “what is most personal is most universal” still gives other women hope This conversation matters because shame thrives in silence. If you have ever wondered whether God can truly heal trauma, break addiction, and restore what was stolen, Terri’s story is proof that the answer is yes. And if you know someone carrying pain they have never named out loud, this episode gives them language, hope, and a way forward. Essential listening for anyone who needs a reminder that the light of Christ is stronger than darkness, and that freedom can start with one honest prayer. Want to grab the book we referenced, by Marnee Feree? Grab your copy of "No Stones" right here.

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What happens when a Christian becomes a psychologist and sex therapist? That's not the setup to a bad joke. It's the start of a daring leap into the messy conversations that matter most — ones intended to point you to the life-changing power of Jesus. Dr. Jessica McCleese (Dr. J) has spent nearly two decades sitting with real people navigating trauma, shame, and sexual brokenness. Most of them have been Christians — people searching for practical answers that actually align with their faith and the Word of God. Therapy can help, but Dr. J is the first to say it: the only true healing comes from Christ. In a world that preaches freedom of choice and crowns personal truth as supreme, Dr. J invites her listeners into the tension rather than away from it, pointing to Jesus with both truth and love. Rooted in the book of Revelation, the name White Stones speaks to the intimate, personal relationship each believer can have with Christ. That spirit of honest, personal encounter shapes every conversation on this show. Each episode weaves Dr. J's clinical expertise together with the lived authority of her guests — people whose stories of trauma, shame, and broken sexuality reveal God's redemptive work in ways unique to each individual, yet consistent with His character as a good God. Together, they tackle the hard stuff with unashamed honesty and the audacious hope that Jesus truly makes all things new. If you're looking for a space where faith is deeply rooted, refreshingly honest, and genuinely practical — you're home. Grab your coffee and let's go.

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  • Creator
    Dr. J McCleese
  • Years Active
    2026
  • Episodes
    21
  • Rating
    Clean
  • Copyright
    © 2026 Dr. J McCleese
  • Show Website
    The White Stones Podcast