In 1963, a 22-year-old art student was paid $150 to design a poster for a low-budget surf documentary nobody expected much from. That poster — for The Endless Summer — became one of the most reproduced images in American design history, and it launched a career that would put John Van Hamersveld behind a desk at Capitol Records within two years, doing album covers for the Beatles and dozens of the biggest artists of the era. A few years after that, the Rolling Stones asked him to design the cover for Exile on Main St. The industry called it atrocious. It sold out in four months, and a decade later, Johnny Rotten told Van Hamersveld directly that seeing that cover helped define how the Sex Pistols and the whole punk movement decided to look. Van Hamersveld is 85 now. He's still working, still drawing every wave by hand before it ever touches a screen. But underneath the career highlights — The Beatles, the Stones, Jimmy Z, a computer handed to him personally by Steve Jobs — is something closer to parenthood. An image starts as something private, made by hand, half-understood even by the person making it. Then it leaves, going out into a world built to package it, sell it, misread it, sometimes reject it outright. It grows up without him: becomes part of how millions of strangers picture a decade, a genre, a feeling they never asked his permission to attach to it. And every so often, decades later, it comes home, not as his anymore, but as something he gets to stand next to and watch live its own life. This conversation follows that cycle through six decades of his work: a poster, an album cover, a logo, a mural, and the six generations of strangers he's watched pass in front of one image, each of them meeting it as if for the first time. Chapters 00:00 — Cold open 01:07 — From the Maryland woods to the California surf: Phil Becker, Art Center, and the Bauhaus collision 03:19 — Rick Griffin, a bedroom magazine, and an accidental rivalry 04:29 — Designing The Endless Summer poster 06:15 — The poster that opened the door to Capitol Records 07:29 — Inside the machine by day, running a psychedlic concert series by night 09:12 — Pinnacle, a 1968 Hendrix poster, and the road to the Rolling Stones 10:13 — Designing Exile on Main St. — and the Johnny Rotten connection 12:33 — When the album cover died: cassettes, MTV, and starting over 15:18 — Malibu, Jimmy Z, and finding a new visual language 17:10 — Steve Jobs, the Apple Lisa, and what stays analog 19:07 — Six generations at a table: what the work means now ____ "Soundings" is produced in partnership with San Pedro Today magazine. Find us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. More info at aaronmckenzie.net/soundings Visit John Van Hamersveld's website at post-future.com