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Brooke and Terrell Harris

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Brooke and Terrell, a wife and husband, talking about life, relationships, parenting, culture, current events, and whatever else comes up. Some conversations get deep, some get petty, and some completely go left, but that’s the point. New episodes weekly/biweekly.

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When You're Rich, Do You Owe Your Friends Anything?

When You're Rich, Do You Owe Your Friends Anything? | Episode 10 Does having more money mean you have a greater responsibility to help others? And when does setting financial boundaries become selfish? In Episode 10 of I Say All That To Say, Terrell and Brooke tackle some uncomfortable questions about wealth, friendship, generosity, capitalism, and the responsibilities that come with financial success. What starts as a celebration of Terrell's first year as a full-time investor quickly turns into a spirited debate about money, relationships, and what people owe one another. The conversation begins with the controversy surrounding Savannah James and her best friend flying in different classes on the same airplane. Should an extremely wealthy person pay to upgrade their best friend to first class? Or should friendships come without financial expectations? Things get even more complicated when we discuss Chris Rock's story about refusing to pay legal expenses for his best friend's brother, who reportedly spent 19 years in prison before being exonerated. Was Chris Rock justified in maintaining his financial boundaries, or should friendship and compassion have outweighed his personal rules? From there, the conversation takes an unexpected turn into capitalism, billionaires, wealth inequality, and whether the endless pursuit of money and power is simply human nature. We also discuss: Brooke's experience with exercise fatigue, recovery, and learning to listen to her body.Terrell's first year as a full-time options trader, including financial losses, lessons learned, and his most profitable month.How leaving a stressful career can improve your mental health, marriage, and family life.Savannah James, first-class flights, and financial expectations between wealthy friends.Whether being extremely wealthy creates a moral obligation to help others.Chris Rock's controversial decision and the consequences of maintaining strict financial boundaries.Why Terrell and Brooke have different perspectives on wealth, generosity, and capitalism.MacKenzie Scott's philanthropy and whether billionaires can give away substantial wealth without sacrificing their lifestyles.Capitalism, greed, economic inequality, and the growing influence of artificial intelligence.At the heart of this episode is a question that doesn't have an easy answer: How much is enough, and what responsibility do we have to others once we've achieved financial success? As always, we don't necessarily agree, but that's what makes the conversation interesting. 🎙️ I Say All That To Say Podcast Hosted by Terrell & Brooke New episodes exploring marriage, relationships, parenting, money, culture, and everything in between. 📺 Subscribe to our YouTube channel for full episodes and clips. 🎧 Listen on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and other major streaming platforms. 📱 Follow us on Instagram: @brookeandterrell
Oct 2

Better Schools, Better Bodies, Better Leaders?

In Episode 9 of I Say All That to Say, Brooke and Terrell discuss school choice, educational inequality, and raising Black children. Inspired by Nikole Hannah-Jones’s reflections on her daughter’s schooling, we explore what school ratings leave out, why representation matters, and whether supporting your community should come at the expense of your child’s opportunities. We also celebrate Terrell’s middle school basketball team’s first win and Brooke’s inspiring experience with Mocha Moms at the Black Women’s Agenda Symposium. Then we get personal about our fitness journey, staying consistent, aging well, and our ongoing debate: Does walking count as cardio? From cosmetic surgery to Terrell considering a new hairline, there’s plenty of laughter along the way. We close with our thoughts on Mitch McConnell, political accountability, social media distractions, and the importance of voting and putting people before power. Join the conversation: Would you keep your child in a struggling school to support your community—or move them and find another way to give back? Like, subscribe, and share! Follow us on Instagram: @brookeandterrell
Sep 17

Social Media, The N Word and The Fat Joe Debate | I Say All That To Say Podcast

Social Media, The N Word and The Fat Joe Debate | I Say All That To Say Podcast When did social media stop feeling social? In this episode of I Say All That To Say, Brooke and Terrell start with a conversation about social media fatigue, content creation, algorithms, and the pressure to constantly post, promote, monetize, and turn every hobby into a business. What used to be a place to connect with friends and family now often feels more like television—an endless stream of ads, entertainment, controversy, and people competing for attention. That leads Terrell into a recent social media argument after seeing a viral video involving teenagers, a taxi driver, and a man who stepped into the situation while recording himself. Was he genuinely trying to help—or was becoming the hero of the video part of the motivation? The conversation gets into: * Why social media doesn't feel very social anymore * Content creator burnout * The pressure to monetize everything * Creating because you enjoy it versus creating for views * Algorithms replacing friends and family in our feeds * Why violence and conflict perform so well online * Whether people are becoming desensitized to what they watch * How short clips can remove important context * Why everyone seems to need a camera out when something happens * Whether doing something good still counts when you're doing it for content Then the episode shifts into one of our most spirited conversations yet. After seeing renewed debate online about rapper Fat Joe's use of the N-word, Brooke and Terrell discuss whether someone who isn't Black should ever use the word—and whether growing up in a particular culture changes the answer. Terrell brings the perspective of growing up on New York City's Lower East Side, where Black and Latino communities lived closely together and certain language was commonly shared within the culture. Brooke sees it differently. Her question is simple: If the word wasn't historically used against your people, why do you need to say it? That launches a much bigger discussion about: * Fat Joe and the N-word * New York hip-hop culture * Puerto Rican and Black communities in NYC * Culture versus ancestry * Who gets to determine what language is acceptable * Whether context changes the meaning of a word * Reclaiming historically offensive language * Whether people should outgrow certain words * How language changes from one generation to another * Whether something being accepted inside one community makes it acceptable everywhere * What we're teaching our own son about the word We don't completely agree—and that's what makes this conversation interesting. Ultimately, the episode asks two larger questions: Has social media made us more connected—or just more performative? And... Who gets to decide who can use a word with this much history attached to it? We want to hear your perspective in the comments. Can non-Black people ever appropriately use the N-word because of the culture they grew up in? Should the word disappear completely? Or is the meaning entirely dependent on who's saying it, where they're saying it, and who they're saying it to? As someone said online: You're free to use the word. Results may vary. 🎙️ I Say All That To Say Podcast Hosted by Brooke & Terrell Like, subscribe, share, and join the conversation.
Sep 4

What Are We Supposed to Eat Now? | Food, Recalls & Trying to Eat Healthy

What Are We Supposed to Eat Now? | Food, Recalls & Trying to Eat Healthy | I Say All That To Say Podcast – Episode 7 What are we actually supposed to eat anymore? In Episode 7 of I Say All That To Say, Terrell and Brooke switch things up with a more casual conversation about life, parenting, food, and the growing challenge of figuring out what to put on the dinner table. We start with what's been happening in our lives—from surviving a summer without camp and getting our son back to school to jury duty and getting back into basketball season. Then the conversation turns to food. For years, we were pescatarians. Over time, we slowly started adding foods like lamb and chicken back into our diets. But expanding our options created another question: How do you decide what to eat when it feels like everything is being recalled, processed differently, marketed as healthy, or questioned online? We talk about: Surviving summer with a child at home How different childhood looks now compared with growing up in the 80s and 90s Brooke's experience with jury duty Why we stopped eating beef, pork and chicken Being pescatarian for more than a decade How lamb accidentally made its way back into our diet Why chicken eventually returned too Getting tired of eating the same foods Organic food and misleading food labels Food recalls and why they make grocery shopping more confusing Imitation foods and highly processed products Whether buying directly from local farmers makes more sense Growing your own vegetables Stockpiling food and emergency preparation Whether we're being cautious—or just overthinking everything At one point, the question becomes bigger than simply deciding what's for dinner. How much do you trust the food you're buying? Do you buy organic? Shop locally? Grow your own food? Stock up on canned goods? Or do you think concerns about the food supply are being exaggerated? We definitely don't have all the answers. But like a lot of families, we're trying to figure out how to eat well, feed our child, stay within a reasonable budget, and still actually enjoy our food. So we want to hear from you: What are you doing differently when it comes to food? Are you buying from local farms? Growing your own food? Changing what you eat? Preparing for emergencies? And most importantly... Drop some recipes in the comments because we're getting bored over here. 😂 🎙️ I Say All That To Say Podcast Hosted by Terrell & Brooke Like, subscribe and follow for more conversations about relationships, marriage, parenting, family, money, health and everything happening in between.
Aug 21

Marriage Isn’t a Fairytale: What 17 Years Taught Us

What do you think marriage is supposed to look like—and how much of that belief came from your family, church, movies, social media, or relationships you watched growing up? After 17 years of marriage, Terrell and Brooke look back at what they thought marriage would be versus what marriage has actually required from them. From fairy-tale expectations and ideas about soulmates to conflict, parenting, intimacy, individuality, communication, and personal growth, this conversation explores what happens when two people realize that marriage isn’t about staying the same—it’s about learning how to grow alongside someone who is changing too. We also discuss: * Whether we would swipe right on each other if we met today * Where our original ideas about marriage came from * The marriage expectations that quickly disappeared * Equality versus equity in a relationship * How being opposites has affected our marriage * How marriage can become a space for personal growth * Learning to communicate needs without resentment * How parenting exposes differences you didn’t know existed * Why your spouse may become a completely different person over time * Maintaining your individuality while building a life together * Why arguments don’t necessarily mean your relationship is failing * Understanding triggers and conflict styles * Therapy, communication, intimacy, friendship, and support systems * Why long-term relationships require flexibility * The importance of intentionally having fun together * Creating shared goals instead of simply existing together One of the biggest lessons we’ve learned is that the person you marry may not be the same person you’re married to 10, 20, or 30 years later. Life changes people. Marriage requires deciding whether you’re willing to keep learning each new version of your spouse—and allowing them to learn each new version of you. So we want to know: What has marriage or a long-term relationship taught you that nobody prepared you for?
Aug 7

Is Tech Breaking Our Marriage, Parenting, and Focus?

Are we actually more informed than ever — or just more overwhelmed? In this episode of I Say All That To Say, Terrell and Brooke dig into how technology is reshaping their marriage, their parenting, and their ability to focus. It starts with a simple question — why do we need information so fast? — and unfolds into a real conversation about phubbing during dinner, screen-time rules for their 10-year-old, dopamine and instant gratification, gamified education, and whether "deep work" is even possible anymore in an AI-driven world. Brooke pushes Terrell (a 26-year IT veteran) on why speed and efficiency matter so much to him, and the conversation opens up into what tech has quietly replaced in their relationship — real conversation, undistracted date nights, and patience. They also get honest about parenting in a world with 24-hour cartoons, tablets that "win" for you, and kids who've never had to wait for anything. By the end, they land on a shared idea: technology was supposed to be a tool, not a crutch — and the fix isn't quitting tech, it's being intentional about when and why they use it. We also discuss: The last time either of them went a full day without checking their phoneHow phones have quietly become "the new television"Setting boundaries around devices during meals and date nightsScreen-time rules for their son and the "countdown" transition trickWhy kids raised on instant gratification may struggle with real-world patienceSchools replacing textbooks with gamified, tablet-based learningCal Newport's "Deep Work" and whether AI is making it disappear entirelyWhat it actually looks like to model deep focus and patience at homeThis isn't about ditching technology — it's about noticing what it's quietly costing you, and deciding on purpose what you want it to cost. 👉 What are you doing to unplug and actually connect with your family or friends? Drop it in the comments — we want to hear it. 🎙️ Watch, like, comment, and subscribe for new episodes of I Say All That To Say. #ISayAllThatToSayPodcast #TechAndRelationships #MarriagePodcast #ParentingInTheDigitalAge #DeepWork #ScreenTime #DigitalDetox #CouplesPodcast #InformationOverload #MindfulParenting
Jul 10

Would You Marry Someone Who Makes Half Your Income?

Would You Marry Someone Who Makes Half Your Income? | Marriage, Money, Gender Roles & Financial Expectations In Episode 4 of I Say All That To Say, Terrell and Brooke ask a question that sounds simple until it becomes real: Would you marry someone who makes half your income? This conversation goes beyond salary. Terrell and Brooke discuss income gaps in marriage, women becoming primary breadwinners, gender roles, ambition, attraction, divorce, household responsibilities, financial decision-making, and the money conversations couples need to have before marriage. They also unpack whether the answer changes depending on age, gender, life stage, emotional support, and whether love is enough when the financial reality gets difficult. In this episode, we discuss: Would you marry someone who makes half your income? Does your answer change if the man or woman makes less? Are women becoming the financial leaders in more households? Does income affect attraction? Is ambition more important than current salary? Should couples disclose salaries and debt before engagement? Should the person who earns more make the financial decisions? How should couples divide housework when one person earns more? Can resentment build when one spouse carries more of the burden? Is love enough without financial compatibility? This conversation is about more than money. It is about expectations, ego, partnership, honesty, and the real conversations that can make or break a marriage. How would you answer the question? Would you marry someone who makes half your income? Like, comment, subscribe, and check out I Say All That To Say wherever you listen to podcasts.
Jun 26

You Can't Be Broke and Married

In Episode 3 of I Say All That To Say, Terrell and Brooke take on one of the most controversial questions couples can ask: Is marriage just a financial contract in disguise? What begins as a discussion about the historical purpose of marriage quickly turns into a lively debate about love, legal benefits, money, parenting, gender roles, and what really keeps a marriage together over the long term. Then Terrell makes a bold statement that changes the entire conversation: "You can't be broke and married." Is financial stability necessary for a successful marriage? Is love enough to sustain a relationship? Would people still get married if there were no tax advantages, inheritance rights, or legal protections? And should marriages operate more like successful businesses? We also discuss: • Whether marriage is primarily about love, commitment, or financial security • Arranged marriages and the historical purpose of marriage • Would you still get married if there were no legal benefits? • Remarrying after the death of a spouse • Whether successful marriages should function like successful businesses • Division of labor, emotional labor, and parenting responsibilities • Why couples disagree about chores and household expectations • The role finances play in marital conflict • Separate accounts, joint accounts, and allowance systems for married couples • If investment gains and lottery winnings should be shared in a marriage This episode isn't about deciding who is right. It's about exploring the difficult conversations many couples avoid and discovering how our beliefs about money and relationships shape the way we love. Can two broke people build a successful marriage? Let us know in the comments. 👇 Join the conversation: Would you marry someone if there were no legal benefits attached to marriage? Do successful marriages operate more like families or businesses? Should married couples have separate spending accounts?
Jun 17

How Far Would You Go to Get Ahead?

In Episode 2 of I Say All That To Say, Terrell and Brooke tackle a question that affects all of us: How far would you go to get ahead? What starts as a discussion about the controversy surrounding relationship coach and media personality Dr. Cheyenne Bryant quickly evolves into a deeper conversation about ethics, credentials, business, capitalism, and the choices people make in pursuit of success. Is bending the truth ever justified if it helps you achieve your goals? Can you be both successful and ethical in a capitalist society? And what lessons should we be teaching our children about ambition, integrity, and risk? We also discuss: The difference between coaching and licensed mental health professions Why titles and credentials matter Capitalism, wealth, and the pursuit of success Whether public schools are creating workers or independent thinkers Teaching our son about investing, entrepreneurship, and critical thinking The importance of understanding risk and consequences How parents can prepare children for a rapidly changing world This episode is less about having all the answers and more about asking the difficult questions that many people avoid. How far would you go to get ahead? Let us know in the comments. 👇 Join the conversation: Would you ever bend the rules to achieve success? What lessons are you teaching your children about money, ethics, and ambition? 🎙️ Podcast: I Say All That To Say 👥 Hosts: Brooke & Terrell Harris 👍 Like, Comment, and Subscribe
Jun 16

We Almost Got A Divorce

In our pilot episode, we discuss how a job almost made us call it quits on our marriage, what tools we used to help us get back on track, and what we learned along the way. Watch as we get raw and have a real conversation about it.

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Brooke and Terrell, a wife and husband, talking about life, relationships, parenting, culture, current events, and whatever else comes up. Some conversations get deep, some get petty, and some completely go left, but that’s the point. New episodes weekly/biweekly.

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Brooke and Terrell Harris
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2026
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10
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