Honest Faith, Hard Questions

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Have you ever walked away from a conversation about faith feeling weary of surface-level answers? Welcome to the Emerge Podcast, a production of Lakewood Church of the Nazarene. Hosted by Michael and Mia Arseneau, this is a thinking space for anyone who want to trade bumper-sticker clichés for honest theological wrestling. We don't hand down polished monologues; we sit with the mystery of God, explore how scripture meets our messy realities, and discover a living faith together. Your mind is a gift—bring it with you.

Episodes

  1. Oct 6

    Becoming a Wrestler

    Summary In this episode, we explore the theological and practical aspects of wrestling with faith, scripture, and community. We discuss the paradoxes of God's nature, the importance of humility, and how to live faithfully in a complex world. In this episode, we explore the complexities of faith, certainty, and wrestling with theological questions in real life. We discuss how faith meets reality, the importance of humility, and how the church can grow in understanding and practice. Key Topics The paradox of God's justice and mercyJacob's wrestling with the angel as a metaphor for faithWalking with a limp as a symbol of humility and ongoing struggleThe importance of community in wrestling with faithThe danger of disengagement and the value of honest dialogueThe role of subjectivity and cultural context in theologyHistorical perspectives on church certainty and faithfulnessPractices for living faithfully amid tension Theological wrestling as a vital part of faithThe importance of humility in theological understandingThe role of certainty and strong convictions in faithThe biblical view of trust, trust tested, and crying outGod's active involvement in real life and historyThe concept of the moral arc of the universe bending towards justiceThe significance of community and shared faith in wrestlingCase-by-case discernment over rigid rules in faith practiceValuing hospitality over gatekeeping in the churchThe importance of releasing the pressure of needing to be right

  2. Sep 15

    Living on the Edge of Mystery

    In this episode, we explore the theological concept of wrestling with God's mystery, paradoxes in scripture, and how to hold beliefs loosely while maintaining faith. We discuss the importance of humility, boundaries, and the dynamic nature of understanding God's nature. This episode explores the complex nature of understanding God's character, emphasizing the interplay between order and mercy, boundaries and boundary-pushing, and how faith is found in wrestling with divine paradoxes. The conversation draws from biblical stories, theological insights, and personal reflections to challenge simplistic views of God. Key Topics The concept of wrestling with God as a theological practiceThe importance of humility and boundary-setting in faithThe paradox of God's justice and mercy in scriptureThe role of mystery and paradox in understanding God's natureThe influence of church history and councils on theological boundariesThe balance between action and reflection in faithThe significance of scripture, reason, tradition, and experience in theologyThe challenge of holding complex beliefs in a Western evangelical context The paradox of God's order and mercyBiblical examples of boundary setting and pushing, including Genesis and ExodusTheological insights from Karl Barth and biblical scholarsThe story of Jacob wrestling with God and its significanceThe role of boundaries in community and faith lifeThe danger of legalism and the importance of boundary pushingThe concept of faith as honest wrestling rather than passive beliefThe biblical pattern of God's presence going out from the temple into the worldThe balance between knowing God's law and trusting God's mercyPractical implications for faith communities and personal spiritual growth

  3. Sep 8

    Breaking Through The Surface

    In this episode, we explore the challenges of authentic community and faith in modern church settings, addressing superficiality, confronting hard questions, and the role of prophetic tradition in fostering genuine connection and growth. In this episode, we explore the prophetic voice within the church, its role in truth-telling, confronting systemic issues, and how believers can engage with prophetic sensitivity in community and leadership. Key Topics The superficiality of modern church groupsHow to address hard questions about evil and sufferingThe role of prophetic tradition in churchThe impact of cultural comfort on faithThe importance of authentic community Definition of prophecy as truth-telling rather than predictionThe biblical role of prophets in confronting systemic issues and injusticeThe importance of prophetic voices in church leadership and communityChallenges of speaking prophetic truth without causing divisionPractical ways to develop prophetic sensitivity and engage in difficult conversationsThe danger of relegating prophecy to church authority figuresThe biblical example of Elijah and King Ahab as a model for prophetic confrontationThe importance of community and personal relationships in prophetic engagementThe need for spiritual maturity and readiness to handle prophetic conversationsEncouragement for believers to grow in prophetic understanding and courage Resources Paul's discussion on the Gospel: 1 Corinthinas 1:18

  4. Aug 25

    The "E" Word

    In this episode, we explore the true meaning of evangelism, its misconceptions, and how the church can embody a healthier, more holistic approach to mission and community engagement. In this episode, we explore the intersection of faith, evangelism, and community engagement, emphasizing the importance of tradition, practical steps, and crossing cultural boundaries to bring heaven to earth. Key Topics The misconception of evangelism as church growthThe importance of a healthy soteriologyThe distinction between revival and resurrectionLiving a holistic, shalom lifeThe role of community and relational health in evangelismThe impact of societal organization on church outreachThe importance of a dual focus on eternal and present lifeThe theological understanding of Jesus' resurrection and ascension The importance of engaging with Christian tradition and theologians like Church Fathers, John Wesley, and Karl BarthThe theological vision of evangelism as bringing heaven and earth into overlapPractical questions around how to live out evangelism in everyday life, including resource allocation and crossing cultural boundariesThe significance of understanding and unlearning scarcity mindset and embracing abundance in faithThe challenge of balancing church resources between internal community needs and external outreachThe role of personal relationships and community in evangelism and living a full lifeThe impact of cultural and societal barriers on evangelism and church outreachThe importance of prayer, trust in God, and the Holy Spirit in effective evangelismThe concept of the full life as eternal and overflowing into eternityThe necessity of church members and leaders to move beyond comfort and siloed communities to truly serve and impact the world

  5. Aug 18

    Honest Doubts, Hard Passages

    In this episode, we explore the complex relationship between biblical texts, theology, and the human experience of grief, doubt, and suffering. We discuss how the church can better embrace lament and question, rather than dismissing them as failures of faith. In this episode, Michael and Mia explore the complex and challenging passages in scripture, especially focusing on the story of Job and the concept of Holy War. The conversation emphasizes wrestling with difficult texts, understanding cultural and historical contexts, and trusting in God's character amidst mystery. Key Topics The role of lament and grief in the churchCommon quick-fix responses to suffering and their limitationsThe cultural and historical context of biblical commands, especially in Joshua and JobThe importance of wrestling with difficult texts and questionsThe Bible as a deeply human and divine, dynamic storyTheological approaches to texts of terror and violenceThe impact of reading the Bible as a living, active wordThe importance of community in grappling with doubt and grief The cultural and historical context of Job and Holy WarThe importance of wrestling with difficult scripture passagesThe role of trust and mystery in faithTheological reflections on divine justice and mercyThe significance of personal experience in interpreting scripture

  6. Aug 11

    What the Worship?

    This episode explores the profound nature of worship, its theological foundations, and how modern trends are shaping its practice. Mia shares her journey, insights on authentic worship, and the deeper purpose behind our communal and individual acts of praise. In this episode, Michael and Mia explore the theology and practicalities of worship, emphasizing the importance of intentionality, the four-room model of a worship service, and how to engage authentically with God. Key Topics The true meaning of worship beyond music and ritualsThe impact of modern worship trends and industryThe theological foundation of worship as response to God's initiativeThe role of community and participation in worshipThe importance of understanding God's transcendence and immanenceThe concept of prevenient grace in worship and lifeThe necessity of worship as a fundamental human actThe balance between tradition, emotion, and theology in worship The biblical basis of worship as praise, lament, and thanksgivingThe four-room model of a worship service: gathering, word, table, blessingThe importance of intentionality in worship planningHow worship reflects and shapes community identityThe paradox of God's transcendence and immanence in worshipPractical ways to respond to God's movement during serviceThe role of music and other expressions in worshipShifting posture from evaluation to participation in worship

  7. Aug 4

    My Pastor Does What?

    In this episode, we explore the multifaceted role of pastors within the community, examining organizational versus spiritual leadership, the impact of celebrity pastors, and the importance of humility and accountability in ministry. Explore the multifaceted roles of pastors as mediators, prophets, and preachers within the community, emphasizing the importance of community discernment, education, and humility in spiritual leadership. Key Topics The distinction between organizational and spiritual leadership The phenomenon of celebrity pastors and their influence The importance of humility and accountability in pastoral roles How pastors are perceived as spiritual authorities and middlemen The impact of the internet on community expectations The roles of the pastor as described by William Willimon The influence of church and leadership models on pastoral authority The sacrament of communion as participation in God's presence The mediating role of pastors between God and people Why God calls certain individuals for specific roles The biblical pattern of prophecy and its application today The importance of community discernment and diverse voices The role of pastors as prophets and preachers The necessity of theological education for pastors Accountability and integrity in pastoral leadership Resources Pastor by William Willimon - https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Pastor+William+Willimon The Good Place (TV Show) - https://www.netflix.com/title/70136144 Karl Barth - The Word of God - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Barth The Lorax (Movie) - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1127854/

  8. Jul 28

    In or Out?

    This episode explores the complex dynamics of community, belonging, and boundary-setting within the church. We examine historical and modern perspectives on who is in or out, the role of transformation, and how Jesus' example challenges traditional gatekeeping. In this episode, we explore the role of community in faith, the significance of shared faith, and how collective belief influences individual transformation. We delve into biblical stories like the paralyzed man and discuss modern issues like deconstruction and faith responsibility. key topics The historical context of community boundaries in the churchThe tension between belonging and beliefTransformation as a core value in faith communitiesJesus' example of inclusivity and subversion of gatekeepingThe role of Sabbath in understanding rest and workBoundary-setting and its impact on church identity The community's role in individual faith developmentBiblical story of the paralyzed man and collective faithThe concept of salvific faith and community influenceThe importance of shared belief in spiritual transformationChallenges of deconstruction in modern faith communitiesResponsibility of the church in caring for members in crisis Note: Michael mentioned in this episode that there were 4 friends who carried the man in on the mat. The text doesn't specify the number of people carrying the mat noting in Luke 5:18 that it was just "some men." The number 4 came from 4 corners on a square mat and is not intended to be taken at face value.

  9. Jul 21

    What Does Success Look Like?

    The conversation delves into the complex topic of defining success in the church, exploring the tension between numerical metrics and spiritual growth. It also highlights the challenges and dilemmas faced by pastors in navigating the financial and spiritual aspects of their role within the church. The conversation delves into the concept of mutual responsibility within the church community, emphasizing the importance of active participation and support for one another. It then explores the idea of depth over breadth in personal transformation, highlighting the significance of going beyond surface-level engagement. Finally, it discusses the role of shared voice and active participation in the community, emphasizing the importance of engaging deeply and growing deeply within the church. The conversation delves into the concept of mutual responsibility within the church community, exploring the challenges of measuring growth and success in this context. It highlights the complexities of individual and collective sanctification, shared voice, and the nuanced nature of church dynamics. The discussion emphasizes the need to move beyond traditional metrics and embrace a holistic understanding of church health and success. Takeaways Success in the church is often measured by attendance and tithe numbers.The tension between spiritual and organizational aspects of the church creates challenges for pastors. Mutual responsibility in the church communityDepth over breadth in personal transformationShared voice and active participation in the community Mutual responsibility in church communityThe challenge of measuring growth and success Chapters 00:00 Defining Success in the Church03:07 The Tension of Numerical Metrics06:13 The Pastor's Dilemma11:50 Financial and Spiritual Pressures17:06 The Role of the Pastor21:02 Bivocational Ministry23:04 Mutual Responsibility in the Church Community28:03 Depth Over Breadth in Personal Transformation29:02 Shared Voice and Active Participation in the Community43:48 Mutual Responsibility in Church Community44:15 The Challenge of Measuring Growth and Success

  10. Jul 14

    The Roundtable

    In this episode, we explore how the architecture and organization of church spaces influence worship and theological understanding. We discuss the role of shared authority, participatory Bible engagement, and the innovative concept of the church round table to foster deeper community involvement. In this episode, we explore how engaging with biblical texts through diverse voices and community roundtables enriches understanding and spiritual growth. We discuss practical ways to incorporate these methods into church life and personal faith journeys. key topics Church architecture and worship influenceShared authority and responsibility in churchThe role of the pastor and community in Bible engagementThe concept and purpose of the church round tableHow church spaces reflect theological priorities The importance of engaging with biblical texts as they areThe role of diverse voices in biblical interpretationPractical steps to incorporate roundtable discussions in churchThe ongoing process of reinterpreting scripture in light of personal and community growthThe connection between biblical patterns and contemporary lifeThe significance of meeting God through scripture in communityThe impact of regular, communal Bible study on spiritual developmentThe priesthood of all believers and shared responsibility in understanding scriptureResourcesThe Roundtable Pulpit by John McClure: https://www.amazon.com/Roundtable-Pulpit-Where-Leadership-Preaching/dp/0687011426/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3H22MGU0R6ZKZ&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.D9nRNlOz3vwKttYlCYynwWtN5sGSOfzMIdJQhSeeBorxdgKJ5ggMdy1pz4vv02MP.TTvQdND1wvBNNWlPM1mh2jvKZkigo1GIbQoAlqOJEvU&dib_tag=se&keywords=round+table+pulpit+book&qid=1783790551&sprefix=round+table+pulpit+%2Caps%2C269&sr=8-1 Lakewood Church of the Nazarene: https://www.lakewoodnaz.org/

  11. Jul 7

    Being the Church

    Summary In this episode, we explore the true nature of church beyond buildings and gatherings, emphasizing intentional relationships, shared responsibility, and living out the gospel as a community. We discuss how redefining core concepts like fellowship, communion, and representation can transform our understanding and practice of church. This episode explores the deep theological concepts of trust, faith, communion, and the role of the church in embodying God's work. It emphasizes the importance of community, humility, and the dynamic nature of God's interaction with humanity. Topics What is church? Beyond buildings and gatherings The importance of intentional relationships in church The role of shared responsibility in community Redefining fellowship, communion, and representation The church as a microcosm of new creation and kingdom of heaven The impact of cultural, theological, and traditional backgrounds on church understanding The importance of practical, lived-out faith and community support Bridging the gap between the academy and local church The nature of trust and faith in God The concept of divine assurance and mystery The role of the church as a community of representatives of God The theological understanding of communion as unity with God and others The importance of humility and relational dynamics in faith Resources Nazarene Church Official Website - https://nazarene.org Wavelength Board Game - https://www.wavelengthgame.com Theosis - Eastern Orthodox Concept - https://orthodoxwiki.org/Theosis Entertaining Ourselves to Death quote - Neil Postman in "Amusing Ourselves to Death"

  12. Jun 23

    What is Church?

    In this episode, we explore the multifaceted concept of church, examining how societal norms, personal experiences, and theological perspectives shape our understanding of what it means to be the church. Join us as we discuss the importance of asking good questions about church identity, community, and faith in a modern context. In this episode, we explore the evolving understanding of the church, its community responsibilities, and how cultural shifts impact faith practices. We discuss the importance of authentic community, the influence of individualism, and the need for redemptive relationships within church settings. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Emerge Podcast 03:09 Bridging the Gap: Church and Academia 05:46 Personal Backgrounds and Perspectives on Church 11:53 Defining Church: Perspectives and Experiences 17:58 The Role of Tools in Church Identity 20:41 Identity and the Church Post-COVID 23:09 Tools and Identity in Church 24:23 Competing in a Consumeristic Society 25:56 The Church as a Community 30:07 Defining the Church: People vs. Building 32:04 The Role of Individuals in the Church 34:53 Demographic Shifts in American Christianity 35:52 The Church's Mission and Responsibility 40:28 Cultural Influences on Faith 41:44 Individualism and Community in the Church 43:00 The Evangelical Movement's Impact 43:56 The Role of Family in Faith 45:18 Consumerism and Church Dynamics 49:41 Navigating Church Shopping 52:24 Healthy Community vs. Personal Preference 56:39 The Messy Middle of Faith 01:00:25 Looking Ahead: Constructive Conversations Resources For more on our background, The Nazarene Church - https://nazarene.org/ Church Demographics in the US - https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2024/01/24/who-are-the-nones-how-are-they-defined/ We were close in the episode, but according to this study from Pew Research, almost 30% of US adults would consider themselves to be "NONES." https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2025/02/26/decline-of-christianity-in-the-us-has-slowed-may-have-leveled-off/ Another study done by the same group in 2025 shows that the share of US population that would consider themselves Christian remains around 60%

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Have you ever walked away from a conversation about faith feeling weary of surface-level answers? Welcome to the Emerge Podcast, a production of Lakewood Church of the Nazarene. Hosted by Michael and Mia Arseneau, this is a thinking space for anyone who want to trade bumper-sticker clichés for honest theological wrestling. We don't hand down polished monologues; we sit with the mystery of God, explore how scripture meets our messy realities, and discover a living faith together. Your mind is a gift—bring it with you.

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