The Interlocutor Podcast

Tyrel Cameron Eskelson

The Interlocutor Podcast is a series of long-form conversations about people shaped by place. Through discussions of upbringing, travel, identity, memory, history, and cultural change, guests reflect on the experiences that formed them and altered the way they see the world. Conversations feature writers, historians, travelers, journalists, and cultural voices from around the world, with a particular interest in Taiwan and East Asia. Past guests include Kevin Kelly, Emily Wu, Shelly Rigger, and Eryk Michael Smith. Hosted by Tyrel Cameron Eskelson, author of Taiwan 22: Travels in Paradox

  1. Jul 24

    Why He Left Tokyo for Rural Japan: Bears, Overtourism & Deep Tohoku | Quinlan Faris

    While millions of tourists crowd into Tokyo and Kyoto, there is a vastly different side of Japan waiting in the north.In this episode of The Interlocutor Podcast, Tyrel Cameron Eskelson sits down with Quinlan Faris—outdoorsman, guide, and founder of GoNorth Japan. Quinlan reflects on his early days in Tokyo, why he packed his bags for the rugged beauty of Iwate Prefecture, and what makes Japan so deeply magnetic to travelers.We also tackle the pressing realities facing Japan today: the surging wave of overtourism in major cities, essential hiking safety tips, the rising issue of bear encounters in rural regions, nature-based spirituality, and how travelers can experience authentic, off-the-beaten-path Japan.Connect & Book a TourGoNorth Japan Official Site: https://gonorth.jp/Follow Quinlan Faris on YouTube:  @GoNorthJapan  About The Interlocutor PodcastHosted by Tyrel Cameron Eskelson, The Interlocutor Podcast features long-form conversations with writers, scholars, adventurers, and cultural observers exploring life across Asia and beyond.Subscribe for more episodes: https://www.youtube.com/@UC8H8sJS6iaEaxWyEJV8FVuw Listen on Spotify / Apple Podcasts: https://open.spotify.com/show/033lV6x4Zx8135M1tMPtZqQuinlan Faris, GoNorth Japan, Iwate Japan, Tohoku travel, Japan overtourism, hiking in Japan, bear encounters Japan, bear safety Japan, Japan spirituality, Yamabushi, escape Tokyo, living in rural Japan, travel Japan off the beaten path, The Interlocutor Podcast, Tyrel Cameron Eskelson, Japan travel guide, Tohoku hiking, deep Japan, Tohoku nature

    Why He Left Tokyo for Rural Japan: Bears, Overtourism & Deep Tohoku | Quinlan Faris
  2. Jul 22

    From River Town to Other Rivers: Peter Hessler on the Education of China and Himself

    KeywordsPeter Hessler, River Town, Other Rivers, Chinese education, Modern China, Teaching in China, American writer in China, China memoir, Cross-cultural communication, Chinese students, Peace Corps China, China nonfiction, Chengdu China, Author interview, Narrative journalismA rare, reflective conversation with Peter Hessler on China’s transformation, education, and the craft of nonfiction storytelling. Join The Interlocutor Podcast host Tyrel Cameron Eskelson with author and journalist Peter Hessler in this in-depth conversation exploring his acclaimed books River Town and Other Rivers: A Chinese Education. We discuss Hessler’s time as a teacher in rural China, his recent return to a transformed nation, and what decades of observation have taught him about culture, change, and communication.Along the way, we talk about:The contrasts between 1990s and 2010s ChinaHow education reveals deeper social dynamicsThe role of a foreign writer in a rapidly evolving countryWhat listening means in nonfiction reportingThe art and ethics of cross-cultural storytellingWhether you're a longtime Hessler reader or new to his work, this is a thoughtful and wide-ranging conversation about China, memory, and meaning.#PeterHessler #OtherRivers #RiverTown #China #Nonfiction #Journalism #EducationInChina #ChineseSociety #Memoir #crossculturalcommunication Overview of Other Rivers: A Chinese Education by Peter HesslerIn Other Rivers, acclaimed journalist and author Peter Hessler returns to China—this time not as a Peace Corps volunteer or foreign correspondent, but as a high school teacher in Chengdu, in the western province of Sichuan. From 2019 to 2021, during a period of deepening political control in China and the global disruption of COVID-19, Hessler taught writing and literature to Chinese students at a private school.The book is both a sequel and a mirror to his earlier work, River Town, where Hessler chronicled his time as a teacher in the late 1990s in a remote Yangtze River town. Now, in Other Rivers, he observes what has—and hasn’t—changed in China over two transformative decades.Core Themes and FocusEducation as a window into society: Hessler uses the classroom to explore Chinese culture, language, politics, and generational change.Individual voices in a controlled system: He highlights the perspectives of his students—curious, cautious, candid—who grow up under a regime that tightly manages expression.Censorship and sensitivity: The book subtly explores the limits of speech, surveillance, and the challenges of intellectual freedom in contemporaryPeter Hessler is an acclaimed American nonfiction writer and journalist best known for his deeply insightful books and reporting on China and, more recently, the Middle East. Born in 1969, Hessler graduated from Princeton University and later earned a Rhodes Scholarship to study English literature at Oxford. After college, he joined the Peace Corps, teaching English in the remote Chinese city of Fuling—a transformative experience that became the subject of his first book, River Town: Two Years on the Yangtze (2001).Hessler went on to become The New Yorker’s China correspondent from 2000 to 2007, chronicling the country’s rapid social and economic transformation. His trilogy of books on China—River Town, Oracle Bones (2006), and Country Driving (2010)—is widely regarded as among the most perceptive and human-centered accounts of modern China written in English.In 2011, Hessler moved to Egypt to cover the Arab Spring and its aftermath, later publishing The Buried: An Archaeology of the Egyptian Revolution (2019).In 2019, he returned to China to teach at a private high school in Chengdu, a period that inspired his latest book, Other Rivers: A Chinese Education (2024). The book serves as both a companion and a counterpoint to River Town, reflecting on how China—and Hessler himself—has changed over two decades.

    From River Town to Other Rivers: Peter Hessler on the Education of China and Himself
  3. Jul 11

    Ghost Island Media Founder Emily Y. Wu on Taiwan's Identity and Podcast Revolution

    Taiwan's story is often told through politics. Emily Y. Wu believes it should also be told through people.In this episode of The Interlocutor Podcast, Ghost Island Media founder Emily Y. Wu joins host Tyrel Cameron Eskelson for a wide-ranging conversation about Taiwan's evolving identity, growing up abroad and returning home, building an independent media company, the rise of podcasting in Taiwan, and the unique perspectives that come from living between cultures.We discuss:-Taiwan's changing sense of identity-Returning to Taiwan after living overseas-The opportunities and challenges of podcasting in Taiwan-Independent media and storytelling-Life between cultures-Why conversations matter in understanding TaiwanWhether you're interested in Taiwan, East Asia, journalism, podcasting, or questions of identity and belonging, this conversation offers thoughtful insights into one of Asia's most dynamic societies.If you enjoyed this conversation, please like, subscribe, and share the episode. It helps more people discover long-form conversations about Taiwan, Asia, and the people shaping our understanding of the world.#Taiwan #Podcast #GhostIslandMediaTaiwan, Taiwan podcast, Taiwan identity, Emily Y Wu, Emily Wu, Ghost Island Media, Ghost Island Media podcast, podcasting in Taiwan, Taiwan media, independent media, Taiwan culture, Taiwanese identity, living abroad, returning home, expat Taiwan, Taiwan society, East Asia podcast, Asia podcast, journalism, storytelling, long-form podcast, The Interlocutor Podcast, Tyrel Cameron Eskelson, Taiwan politics, Taiwan history, cross-cultural identity, Taiwanese diasporaHashtags#Taiwan #GhostIslandMedia #EmilyYWu #Podcast #TaiwanIdentity #TaiwanCulture #TaiwanMedia #Journalism #Storytelling #EastAsia #Asia #TheInterlocutorPodcast #LongFormPodcast #TaiwanPodcast #Identity

    Ghost Island Media Founder Emily Y. Wu on Taiwan's Identity and Podcast Revolution

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The Interlocutor Podcast is a series of long-form conversations about people shaped by place. Through discussions of upbringing, travel, identity, memory, history, and cultural change, guests reflect on the experiences that formed them and altered the way they see the world. Conversations feature writers, historians, travelers, journalists, and cultural voices from around the world, with a particular interest in Taiwan and East Asia. Past guests include Kevin Kelly, Emily Wu, Shelly Rigger, and Eryk Michael Smith. Hosted by Tyrel Cameron Eskelson, author of Taiwan 22: Travels in Paradox