The Retirement and IRA Show

Jim Saulnier, CFP® & Chris Stein, CFP®
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What do you get when you combine two knowledgeable CFP® PROFESSIONALS (one also a well-informed COLLEGE FINANCE INSTRUCTOR)? If you mix in relevant financial information and a healthy dose of humor you get the Retirement and IRA Radio Show! JIM SAULNIER, a CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER™ Professional with Jim Saulnier and Associates who specializes in retirement planning for clients across the country, CHRIS STEIN, a Finance Instructor at Colorado State University who is also a CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER™ Professional, offer real-world knowledge on a diverse range of topics including Social Security planning, investing for your retirement, the fundamentals of 401(k) and IRA accounts. Jim and Chris make learning about your retirement both educational and entertaining!

  1. 1D AGO

    Social Security, 5-year Rule, Conduit Trusts, Inherited IRAs: Q&A #2614

    Jim and Chris discuss listener emails on Social Security claiming strategies, IRMAA income adjustments, a listener PSA on the Roth five-year rule, conduit trusts for minor IRA beneficiaries and I-Bond tax reporting, and an inherited IRA passing through a trust. (10:30) George asks about the Social Security “January Rule” and whether claiming in December 2027 or January 2028 would capture the most delayed retirement credits after reaching full retirement age in May 2027. (21:00) A listener who retired early and has been performing Roth conversions asks whether he can also file an SSA-44 based on his wife’s upcoming reduction in work income, even though his conversions have been elevating their household MAGI. (31:00) The guys review a listener PSA clarifying that the fifth year of the Roth five-year rule must be completed entirely—not merely begun—before the holding period is satisfied. (39:45) Jim and Chris take a two-part question on how conduit trusts handle IRA distributions inherited by minor children, and whether the annual interest-reporting election used for EE bonds can also apply to I-Bonds. (1:06:00) A listener whose father-in-law named a trust as the IRA beneficiary — rather than the daughters directly — is getting conflicting advice on whether the IRA funds must be taken immediately or if they can spread the distributions — and the taxes — over five years. The post Social Security, 5-year Rule, Conduit Trusts, Inherited IRAs: Q&A #2614 appeared first on The Retirement and IRA Show.

    1h 30m

  2. 4D AGO

    Buffered ETF Mechanics: EDU #2613

    If you would like to skip over the guys’ banter this week about Jim’s experience going to a Cincinnati Reds game, you can go to (7:00). Chris’s Summary Jim and I are joined by Jacob as we revisit buffered ETF mechanics in light of recent market volatility and explain why 100% and 20% buffers can still show interim losses. We also cover how renewals work, why resets are not taxable events in brokerage accounts, where these products may fit in retirement positioning, and a listener email comparing them with bonds and fixed indexed annuities. Jim’s “Pithy” Summary Chris and I are joined by Jacob as we go back into buffered ETF mechanics during a stretch where people are actually seeing movement in these products and questioning what they own. When markets pull back, even modestly, the expectation is that protection means no decline at all. Jacob walks through why that is not how these function in real time, and why a 100% buffered ETF can still show a small loss while a 20% buffered ETF can show more, even when the market decline remains within the stated buffer range. The distinction comes down to how these are priced day to day versus how the protection applies over the defined outcome period. We also clarify how renewals work, what happens when values reset higher or lower, and how that process functions within a brokerage account. The discussion also covers how these may fit within portfolio positioning depending on how the dollars are being used. Jacob outlines how full principal protection may be used for nearer-term spending needs, including the Minimum Dignity Floor, while partial buffers may apply to longer time horizons where some level of downside can be accepted in exchange for additional upside potential. A listener email introduces the idea of using these as ballast, along with a comparison to bonds and fixed indexed annuities, including differences in liquidity, tax treatment, fee transparency, and how returns are delivered. The post Buffered ETF Mechanics: EDU #2613 appeared first on The Retirement and IRA Show.

    1h 25m

  3. MAR 28

    Social Security, Spendthrift Trust, Living Trust: Q&A #2613

    Jim and Chris discuss listener emails on Social Security timing, whether you can “leave” your Social Security benefit to a spouse who doesn’t independently qualify, having a spendthrift trust purchase an annuity, and using a revocable living trust to manage aging parents’ complex financial affairs. (13:15) A listener born in November asks what their Social Security benefit would be if they begin claiming now, before full retirement age, while still earning $100,000, and when the earnings penalty would lift. (25:15) Jim and Chris field a question on whether you can “leave” your Social Security benefit to a spouse who does not independently qualify for Social Security. (34:00) George asks how to structure his estate so that one child receives an inheritance in installments over 20 years rather than as a lump sum, and whether a trust purchasing an annuity could accomplish that goal. (1:11:30) The guys hear from a listener who explains how being added as co-trustee on his aging parents’ revocable living trust resolved the recurring problem of financial institutions refusing to honor their power of attorney. The post Social Security, Spendthrift Trust, Living Trust: Q&A #2613 appeared first on The Retirement and IRA Show.

    1h 27m

  4. MAR 25

    Ed Slott IRA Quiz Continued: EDU #2612

    If you would like to skip over Jim and Chris’s banter on the weather, that manages to touch on Colorado water rights (an issue many east of the Mississippi probably find baffling), then you can start listening at (11:45). Chris’s Summary Jim and I continue our look through the Ed Slott IRA quiz, covering IRA recharacterization rules, how a surviving spouse may use a deceased spouse’s five year period following a spousal rollover, which IRA funds can roll into an employer plan, and the timing trap that can unravel the strategy of using an employer plan to separate after-tax basis from pre-tax funds. Jim’s “Pithy” Summary Chris and I are continuing our run through the Ed Slott IRA quiz — the questions Ed sends out after his twice-yearly training sessions to make sure advisors know not just the right answer but the reasoning behind it. That reasoning is where most people get tripped up, and this episode has several good examples of exactly that. We start with IRA recharacterization rules — the deadline, what has to happen at the custodian level, how attributable gains or losses factor into the math, and a conversion planning tool that Congress took away in the 2018 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act. It was a strategy that made conversion timing far more forgiving than it is today, and the fact that it is gone still stings. From there we get into the Roth IRA five-year rules — specifically a spousal rollover scenario with a twist that most people, including Chris, do not see coming. The answer turns on a benefit the tax code extends to surviving spouses that is easy to overlook if you are not specifically looking for it. We wrap up with which IRA funds can actually be rolled into an employer plan and why that distinction matters if you are sitting on after-tax basis inside a traditional IRA. There is a clean strategy for separating it, but there is also a timing mistake that catches people who think they have successfully pulled it off — when they have not. More people fall into that trap than you would expect, and the consequences are not trivial. The post Ed Slott IRA Quiz Continued: EDU #2612 appeared first on The Retirement and IRA Show.

    1h 6m

  5. MAR 21

    HSA Reimbursement, Social Security, Conduit Trusts: Q&A #2612

    Jim and Chris discuss listener emails, opening with listener PSAs on Medicare Advantage HSA reimbursement eligibility, then moving into questions on Social Security beneficiary rules and finishing their look at conduit trusts for IRAs. (7:00) A listener asks whether Social Security benefits can be passed on to a significant other. (28:00) The guys continue from last week with a listener’s multi-part question on whether a conduit trust should be structured to distribute RMDs before allowing any additional withdrawals — as a strategy for controlling how beneficiaries access inherited IRA funds. The listener also asks what else could trigger a large tax bill in that setup, and whether a conduit trust provides creditor protection. (1:15:30) George asks for the follow-up promised at the end of a recent episode — specifically, the better approach for having a trust inherit an IRA when you’re concerned about an heir mismanaging the funds. The post HSA Reimbursement, Social Security, Conduit Trusts: Q&A #2612 appeared first on The Retirement and IRA Show.

    1h 22m

  6. MAR 18

    Ed Slott Quiz – Widow(er) Tax Penalty and Inherited IRA Rules: EDU #2611

    Chris’s Summary Jim and I discuss the Ed Slott quiz questions from his November advisor training, opening with the widow/widower tax penalty and required beginning dates for IRA required minimum distributions before moving into inherited IRA rules — year of death RMDs with multiple beneficiaries and the deadline for satisfying them, spousal rollover options, and spousal RMD timing. Jim’s “Pithy” Summary Chris and I dig into the Ed Slott quiz from my November advisor training — 20 questions, open book, and I scored 100 this time. We have been doing this for years and it is not just a matter of asking the question, giving the answer and moving on. We get into the rabbit holes, explain the nuances, and use it as a chance for everybody listening to test their own knowledge. We open with the widow/widower tax penalty and required beginning dates for IRA required minimum distributions — and the widow/widower question has nothing to do with IRAs but everything to do with retirement planning. The younger a spouse passes away the more intense the penalty, and the longer both of you live together the less it bites. From there we get deep into inherited IRA rules, which make up the bulk of the episode. How year of death RMDs work when there are multiple beneficiaries, and what the deadline is for satisfying them — there is a question in here that Ed Slott himself argued both sides of for years because the IRS never gave guidance until July 2024. We close on spousal rollover options and RMD timing rules that only apply to surviving spouses. A spouse has choices that no other beneficiary has, and the decision of which way to go can look very different depending on the ages involved. Chris makes the point well — whenever a spouse dies, hit the pause button before you do anything. The post Ed Slott Quiz – Widow(er) Tax Penalty and Inherited IRA Rules: EDU #2611 appeared first on The Retirement and IRA Show.

    1h 10m

  7. MAR 14

    Tax Filing, HSAs, I Bonds, RMDs, Roth Conversions: Q&A #2611

    Chris is joined by Jake Turner to discuss listener emails on tax filing for mega backdoor Roth contributions, use of HSA funds, I Bonds redemption timing, lowering RMD pressure, and Roth conversions. (6:30) George asks whether leaving a 1099-R off a return after after-tax 401(k) money was immediately converted to Roth means an amended return is needed or whether the IRS will simply follow up. (12:15) A listener asks whether HSA funds can be used pre-tax to pay fully self-funded health insurance premiums. (17:30) The guys are asked how to evaluate redeeming high fixed-rate I Bonds over several years versus waiting until maturity and risking a large one-year tax bill and IRMAA hit. (30:45) Chris and Jake hear from a widowed listener looking for ways to reduce future RMDs and IRMAA without using Roth conversions or QCDs. (47:45) Another listener asks whether doing very large Roth conversions over a few years could make more sense than staying within lower tax brackets over a longer period. The post Tax Filing, HSAs, I Bonds, RMDs, Roth Conversions: Q&A #2611 appeared first on The Retirement and IRA Show.

    1h 6m

  8. MAR 11

    Retirement Planning With a Defined Benefit Pension: EDU #2610

    Chris’s Summary With Jim at the T3 conference in New Orleans, I am joined by Jake Turner to cover how to factor a defined benefit pension into retirement planning, using the situation of a 45-year-old law enforcement officer with a non-covered pension as the backdrop. We walk through evaluating his savings rate against the 15–20% rule of thumb, the lump sum equivalent value of his pension income, why the presence or absence of a COLA matters significantly, and how pension income fits into covering essential expenses over a long retirement. Jim’s “Pithy” Summary While I’m at the T3 conference in New Orleans, Chris and Jake use a listener’s situation to dig into retirement planning with a defined benefit pension. The listener is a 45-year-old law enforcement officer who has been contributing to his pension since day one but only started building outside accounts five years ago. He wants to know where he actually stands — and the answer is more nuanced than a simple savings rate comparison can capture. A big part of that nuance is whether the pension is a non-covered one, meaning it replaces Social Security rather than sitting alongside it. That single distinction changes how you benchmark the savings rate entirely, and it’s the kind of thing that gets glossed over when people just throw out rules of thumb without knowing what’s underneath them. Chris and Jake also get into how pension income fits against the Minimum Dignity Floor — and why a pension that looks rock solid at retirement can tell a very different story decades later if there’s no cost-of-living adjustment attached to it. There’s also a conversation worth hearing about lump sum options — what they’re actually worth, how to think about comparing them to the lifetime income stream, and why the big number isn’t always the better answer. If you have a defined benefit pension and you’ve been wondering how it fits into the bigger retirement picture, or whether you’re ahead or behind where you should be, this episode covers the framework for thinking it through. The post Retirement Planning With a Defined Benefit Pension: EDU #2610 appeared first on The Retirement and IRA Show.

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What do you get when you combine two knowledgeable CFP® PROFESSIONALS (one also a well-informed COLLEGE FINANCE INSTRUCTOR)? If you mix in relevant financial information and a healthy dose of humor you get the Retirement and IRA Radio Show! JIM SAULNIER, a CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER™ Professional with Jim Saulnier and Associates who specializes in retirement planning for clients across the country, CHRIS STEIN, a Finance Instructor at Colorado State University who is also a CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER™ Professional, offer real-world knowledge on a diverse range of topics including Social Security planning, investing for your retirement, the fundamentals of 401(k) and IRA accounts. Jim and Chris make learning about your retirement both educational and entertaining!

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