The Retirement and IRA Show

Jim Saulnier, CFP® & Chris Stein, CFP®

What do you get when you combine two knowledgeable CFP® PROFESSIONALS (one also a well-informed COLLEGE FINANCE INSTRUCTOR)? If you mix in relevant financial information and a healthy dose of humor you get the Retirement and IRA Radio Show! JIM SAULNIER, a CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER™ Professional with Jim Saulnier and Associates who specializes in retirement planning for clients across the country, CHRIS STEIN, a Finance Instructor at Colorado State University who is also a CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER™ Professional, offer real-world knowledge on a diverse range of topics including Social Security planning, investing for your retirement, the fundamentals of 401(k) and IRA accounts. Jim and Chris make learning about your retirement both educational and entertaining!

  1. Jun 17

    Forced Annuitization: EDU #2624

    Chris’s Summary Jim and I continue our discussion on Forced Annuitization in a highly appreciated non-qualified variable annuity owned by a 90-year-old listener’s mother. We examine LIFO taxation, IRD, IRMAA, period certain annuitization, beneficiary options, IOVAs, and the difference between a codified annuitization approach and the less certain non-qualified stretch. The distinction between a noun annuity and a verb annuity does a lot of work here. Jim’s “Pithy” Summary Chris and I pick back up with a listener’s situation involving Forced Annuitization, a 90-year-old mother, and a non-qualified variable annuity with a tremendous amount of gain. This is not the insurance company being nefarious. These contracts have annuitization dates, and in an older contract, age 95 may once have seemed far away. Now it is an iceberg. The first question is still simple: what does mom want to do? From there, the insurance company’s actual annuitization options matter, preferably in writing, because every policy is unique. We get into the black-and-white choices and the gray area. A life with period certain option may spread payments beyond the forced annuitization point if the insurer allows it. If death occurs before annuitization, a non-spouse beneficiary generally faces two cleaner choices: annuitize within one year based on actuarially sound life expectancy, or use the five-year rule. Then we look at investment-only variable annuities, where the insurance company may provide the annuity wrapper, the assets remain in separate accounts, and one company Jim contacted allows new contracts up to age 95 with forced annuitization pushed out to age 121. The gray area is the non-qualified stretch. Jim explains why he has softened, but not flipped, on it. The SECURE Act changed Section 401, not Section 72(s), and that matters. Still, the comfort level depends on PLRs, insurance company practice, and how much uncertainty someone is willing to tolerate. One path is the verb annuity: give up access and control in exchange for a lifetime stream of income. The other keeps the noun annuity alive, with more flexibility, but less certainty. Same problem, very different wrappers. The post Forced Annuitization: EDU #2624 appeared first on The Retirement and IRA Show.

    1h 6m
  2. Jun 10

    Understanding Forced Annuitization: EDU #2623

    Chris’s Summary: Jim and I continue our discussion on annuity basics before turning to a listener’s email centered on forced annuitization, a maturity date built into every annuity contract requiring annuitization or full distribution by a set age. A listener’s mother faces this deadline at 95 with a variable annuity that grew over 10x, creating a substantial IRD (Income in Respect of a Decedent) tax burden. We consider options including period-certain annuitization, adding a younger co-annuitant, a 1035 exchange, and charitable strategies. Jim’s “Pithy” Summary: Chris and I are picking back up where we left off last week on the basics of annuities, and we take a hard look at the licensing mess on both sides of the industry: insurance agents selling products tied to indexes they’re not licensed to discuss, and investment advisors selling annuities through wholesalers without ever getting an insurance license. We also get into why AI is becoming the great equalizer for consumers, and how a 2005 class action lawsuit built on a complete misunderstanding of annuity maturity dates sets up the real conversation. That real conversation is a listener’s email about forced annuitization. His mother bought a variable annuity in 2002 with money she didn’t need to cover her Minimum Dignity Floor and invested it aggressively. Set it and forget it. Now, decades later, a deadline is closing in, and what looked like a smart, tax-deferred decision has turned into a significant IRD problem with no clean exit. The listener has been chipping away at it, but the math isn’t cooperating. There are options, some involving the existing contract, some involving moving it entirely, and at least one that surprised even me when I dug back through my notes. None of them are perfect, but the worst move may be the one he’s already making. We’ll get into all of it. The post Understanding Forced Annuitization: EDU #2623 appeared first on The Retirement and IRA Show.

    1h 9m
  3. Jun 3

    Annuity Basics: EDU #2622

    Chris’s Summary Jim and I tackle annuity basics to start off another National Annuity Awareness Month. We cover what annuities are as insurance contracts, the four parties to a contract, the accumulation and distribution phases, and the key differences among the major annuity types. We also touch on tax deferral rules, LIFO treatment, and the historical and industry context behind why annuities remain so widely misunderstood. Jim’s “Pithy” Summary  Chris and I use National Annuity Awareness Month to get back to annuity basics. I have a book in my office, Lee Welling Squier’s Old Age Dependency in the United States, written in 1912, before Social Security existed, that begins by asking why people don’t use annuities to help provide against want in old age. That question stuck with me because I was taught early in this industry that annuities were horrible, while pensions were wonderful. But, if a pension was one leg of the old three-legged stool, and the 401(k) helped pull that leg out, then maybe we ought to at least understand the product that can mimic some of that pension-like income for retirees who need it. Not love it. Not hate it. Just understand it. So, we start with the basics: what you are buying, who is making the promise, who controls the contract, whose life the payment is based on, how the accumulation phase works, and when/if the thing you own turns into a stream of income all matter. The word “annuity” covers a lot of very different vehicles. Some are plain and straightforward. Some are complex, with riders, caps, participation rates, and spreads. Some may be useful in the right circumstances. Others may be costly, confusing, or misapplied. And if you do not understand which type of annuity you are looking at, it is easy to use the wrong one in the wrong place. The post Annuity Basics: EDU #2622 appeared first on The Retirement and IRA Show.

    1h 39m
  4. May 27

    Income Annuities in Retirement: EDU #2621

    Chris’s Summary Jim and I discuss income annuities in retirement as a lead-in to National Annuity Awareness Month, using a Fidelity Viewpoints article to frame the discussion. We walk through the article’s points on essential expenses, paycheck-like income, and management simplicity later in retirement. We also distinguish traditional income annuities from more complex annuity products and address liquidity, inflation protection, insurance company risk, and death-benefit trade-offs. Jim’s “Pithy” Summary Chris and I use a Fidelity Viewpoints article on income annuities in retirement to get an early start on National Annuity Awareness Month. The article points out that an income annuity may help when Social Security and pensions do not fully cover essential expenses, may provide some peace of mind around income that lasts for life, and may make retirement easier to manage later on. Those are not new ideas around here! Those essential expenses the article discusses is what we refer to as the Minimum Dignity Floor: food, utilities, transportation, housing, and healthcare. If Social Security and pensions do not fully cover those expenses, a simple income annuity may be worth understanding because if the basics are projected to outlast the income already in place, the question deserves more than a knee-jerk yes or no. We also spend time on what happens when the paycheck stops. People can have plenty of money and still miss the safety of income showing up on schedule. That is where the bottomless cup of coffee idea comes back in, and why spending during the Go-Go years can feel different when the basics are covered. Chris also gets into the simplicity point: aging, confidence, fraud risk, and why the older you, or a surviving spouse, may not want every decision tied to a portfolio. We also get into the article’s trade-offs, including loss of liquidity, lack of inflation protection, insurance company credit risk, and what happens if someone dies earlier than expected. Show Notes: Fidelity Article – “How to feel financially secure in retirement” The post Income Annuities in Retirement: EDU #2621 appeared first on The Retirement and IRA Show.

    1h 30m
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What do you get when you combine two knowledgeable CFP® PROFESSIONALS (one also a well-informed COLLEGE FINANCE INSTRUCTOR)? If you mix in relevant financial information and a healthy dose of humor you get the Retirement and IRA Radio Show! JIM SAULNIER, a CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER™ Professional with Jim Saulnier and Associates who specializes in retirement planning for clients across the country, CHRIS STEIN, a Finance Instructor at Colorado State University who is also a CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER™ Professional, offer real-world knowledge on a diverse range of topics including Social Security planning, investing for your retirement, the fundamentals of 401(k) and IRA accounts. Jim and Chris make learning about your retirement both educational and entertaining!

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