Rice and Cannoli Podcast

Rice and Cannoli

Rice and Cannoli is a podcast hosted by two founders who actually build things. We have opinions, and we're not afraid to use them. We cover AI, tech, and the broader cultural moment playing out in real time. Some episodes are deep dives. Some are just two guys who've been paying attention, saying what everyone else is thinking. 🍚 Rice: Renny Chan 🥐 Cannoli: Jim Verducci

  1. Oct 13

    Rice & Cannoli Podcast - Ep 19 - Apple After Steve Jobs

    Did Apple lose its product soul after Steve Jobs — or become a more sophisticated kind of product company? We compare Apple's 2011 and 2025 filings, its high-margin Services business, enormous buyback program, MacBook design reversals, App Store regulation and the real successes of Apple Watch, AirPods and Apple Silicon. We revisit Jobs's warning about monopoly-era organizations, ask whether Vision Pro and Project Titan show ambition or missed intuition, and look at the 2026 Cook-to-Ternus CEO transition. Then: Anthropic's bizarrely fascinating new rule about being gratuitously cruel to Claude, model welfare and the Vatican. Key receipts: Apple FY2011 filing: https://thequarterly.org/sec-filings/aapl/2011/10-k.html | Apple FY2025 10-K: https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/320193/000032019325000079/aapl-20250927.htm | Apple FY2026 June-quarter 10-Q: https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/320193/000032019326000020/aapl-20260627.htm | Steve Jobs 1995 interview: https://allaboutstevejobs.com/videos/misc/triumph_of_the_nerds_interview_1995 | EU Digital Markets Act decision: https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/news/commission-finds-apple-and-meta-breach-digital-markets-act | Apple CEO transition: https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2026/04/tim-cook-to-become-apple-executive-chairman-john-ternus-to-become-apple-ceo/ | Apple Silicon M1: https://www.apple.com/ca/newsroom/2020/11/apple-unleashes-m1/ | Gemini/Siri reporting: https://www.reuters.com/business/google-apple-enter-into-multi-year-ai-deal-gemini-models-2026-01-12/ | Anthropic Usage Policy: https://www.anthropic.com/news/2026-usage-policy-update | Model welfare: https://www.anthropic.com/research/end-subset-conversations | New York Times Anthropic investigation: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/09/29/us/anthropic-claude-morals-ai.html

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Rice and Cannoli is a podcast hosted by two founders who actually build things. We have opinions, and we're not afraid to use them. We cover AI, tech, and the broader cultural moment playing out in real time. Some episodes are deep dives. Some are just two guys who've been paying attention, saying what everyone else is thinking. 🍚 Rice: Renny Chan 🥐 Cannoli: Jim Verducci