The Court ODR Podcast

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In depth interviews with leading thinkers focused on how Online Dispute Resolution (ODR) tools and techniques can help courts and legal aid providers expand access to justice and promote fast and fair resolutions.

  1. Oct 1

    Traffic ODR in Washtenaw County Michigan - with Lisa Fusik (Episode 18)

    In this episode, Colin interviews Lisa Fusik, Court Administrator for Washtenaw County, Michigan (which includes multiple incorporated cities like Ann Arbor Township, Chelsea, Dexter, Manchester, Saline, and Ypsilanti.) Lisa has been in court administration for more than a decade, and she pioneered the creation of traffic ODR for speeding tickets back in 2014. The traffic ODR system she helped to design and implement enables individuals who receive a speeding ticket to appeal online, and then facilitates communications with law enforcement and judges to consider a reduction in charge. In this conversation Colin and Lisa discuss the evolution of the traffic ODR system, how many cases it manages on an annual basis, and why the platform is a win-win both for court and for defendants. They also talk about why online systems like this one improve access to justice and help to keep courts relevant in an increasingly online world. You can see the Washtenaw County traffic ODR system in action here: https://mid14a.odr.com/ More information about the Washtenaw County courts is available here: https://www.washtenaw.org/county-courts

  2. Sep 4

    Judicaid.com and Bringing AI Mediation to Courts - with Vickie Wood (Episode 17)

    In this episode, Colin interviews Vickie Wood, Founder and CEO of Judicaid.com, an AI mediation platform already live on the court website in Napa, California. Many people know Vickie as Judge Wood, because she spent decades working in the courts, watching people fighting all the way through trial, exhausted from the conflict. After retiring from the Superior Court bench in 2024, she became a professional mediator. She concluded that courtrooms are an essential part of our justice system, but are often best reserved for when other resolution paths have been fully explored. At the same time, traditional mediation can often be too costly for less complex cases. That was why she created Judicaid, an AI mediation platform built to empower people to resolve disputes simply and fairly, on their own time, and in their own language. Colin and Vickie discuss her path through court administration to the judiciary, and then private dispute resolution practice, and then to Judicaid. Vickie describes the platform in detail before Colin and Vickie look a little into the future to predict the future of AI mediation in the courts.

  3. Aug 4

    Lessons for the Courts from AI's Introduction into Arbitration - with Stacy Guillon (Episode 16)

    In this episode, Colin interviews Judge Stacy Guillon, who serves in the 23rd District of Colorado. Before joining the bench, Judge Guillon spent years as a litigator at Lewis Roca (now Womble Bond Dickinson) in Denver, and as an Arbitrator and Mediator with Decisioncraft across Colorado and around the United States. This wide-ranging conversation focuses on differences between the role of an arbitrator and a judge, and how those differences will affect how AI is deployed across the private sector and the courts over the coming years.

  4. May 16

    Bringing AI Tools Into the Judiciary - with Anthony Bayne (Episode 15)

    In this episode, Colin interviews Anthony Bayne, a 25+ year deputy public defender currently running for judge in Los Angeles. Anthony is also a technology innovator, having applied for two patents around integrating AI into the work of lawyers. This conversation talks about openness in the judiciary to using technology, and how technology can help public defenders more effectively represent their clients. Information about Anthony: https://electbayneforjudge.com/aj-bayne

  5. May 15

    Eliminating Hallucinations in AI Judgements, with Paul Welter (Episode 14)

    In this episode, Colin interviews Professor Paul Welter of Florida State University, Co-Founder of http://bayshore.ai about his amazing new controllable AI for legal and compliance work, which is fully audit ready. One of the big challenges of bringing AI into the judicial process is that LLMs generate a new response to each query, and the same prompt can generate different outcomes. This makes relying on platforms like Gemini, Claude, and ChatGPT a little bit like rolling the dice. Paul has devised a way to leverage the power of AI while also delivering consistent outcomes, and in this episode he discusses his approach, and why it's important. More about Paul: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-f-welter/?locale=en More about his company and platform, bayshore.ai: http://bayshore.ai/

  6. May 4

    Designing an Online Arbitration System for Health Care Disputes, with Geoff Drucker (Episode 13)

    In this episode Colin chats with Geoff Drucker, Senior Director of the American Health Law Association’s (AHLA) Dispute Resolution Service, about the online arbitration system that he built over the last decade to handle complex health care disputes. He has taught negotiation, mediation and alternative dispute resolution an adjunct professor at the George Washington University Law School since 2003. Geoff’s publications include Resolving 21st Century Disputes: Best Practices for a Fast-Paced World (Prospecta Press 2012), and chapters on Dispute Resolution in Fundamentals of Health Law (7th Ed.) (AHLA 2018) and Health Care Contracts (1st Ed.) (AHLA 2021). Prior to joining AHLA, Geoff was the Director of Federal Programs for The McCammon Group and Chief Counsel for Dispute Resolution and Prevention for the U.S. Postal Service. Geoff received a BA with distinction from Stanford University in 1982, a JD from the UCLA School of Law in 1985, and an MS in conflict analysis and resolution from George Mason University in 1997. Geoff served two terms as President of the Board of Directors of NVMS Conflict Resolution Center in Fairfax, Virginia, and now serves on the Advisory Committee. Learn more about Geoff: linkedin.com/in/geoffdrucker

  7. 12/19/2025

    Envisioning AI-powered Small Claims - with Sateesh Nori, Senior Legal Innovation Strategist at Just-Tech (Episode 12)

    In this episode Colin chats with Sateesh Nori, a lawyer, law professor, and author on the leading edge of AI and A2J.  Sateesh is a Senior Legal Innovation Strategist at Just-Tech and the visionary behind Claimsy, a new AI-powered resolution platform. For twenty years, he represented tenants across New York City at various legal services organizations.  He was a commissioner of the 2019 Charter Revision Commission. He is currently a member of the ABA Commission on Homelessness and Poverty. He  co-created and co-teaches the Housing Rights Clinic at NYU Law. Sateesh is a graduate of Johns Hopkins University and NYU Law.  Sateesh was named a “Rising Star” by the New York Law Journal, one of “Queens’ Power 50,” and was featured as a “Legal Rebel” in the Spring  2021 ABA Journal. In 2023, he was a recipient of  the New York City Bar Association’s “Legal Services Award.” He is also the author of “Sheltered: Twenty Years in Housing Court.” In 2024, he gave a TedX Talk called “How a chatbot can stop homelessness.” Learn more about Sateesh: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sateesh-nori-9a80aa102/

  8. 08/18/2025

    Advocating for Dads in Family Court: A Conversation with David Pissara (Episode 11)

    In this episode Colin chats with David Pisarra, founder of Men's Family Law in Santa Monica, California. He is an expert in family law, including divorce, alimony, child custody and support. David practices in the courts of Los Angeles, Orange, Riverside and Ventura counties regularly. He has authored three books for men; A Man's Guide to Child Custody, A Man's Guide to Divorce Strategy and A Man's Guide to Domestic Violence. David earned his B.A. degree from St. John's College and his J.D. degree from the University of West Los Angeles. David is the host of The Union of Dads podcast, which features interviews and insights from experts, advocates, and dads who share their stories and advice on how to navigate the legal system and the emotional journey of fatherhood. His program Dad's Law School is designed to help fathers who are representing themselves in Family Court. The program is designed to teach fathers how to present their case to the judge, how to overcome the challenges and biases they face, and how to create a parenting plan that works for them and their kids. He also does live, in person trainings that cover Evidence, Discovery and Courtroom skills. More about David: https://mensfamilylaw.com/  More about Union of Dads: https://www.unionofdads.com/  Info on his book Dad's Child Custody Action Plan: https://www.unionofdads.com/offers/pzLYitMZ/checkout

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In depth interviews with leading thinkers focused on how Online Dispute Resolution (ODR) tools and techniques can help courts and legal aid providers expand access to justice and promote fast and fair resolutions.

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    Colin Rule
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