Direct Well-Being Podcast

Doctor Podcast Network, Anders Apgar MD FACOG MS

Welcome to the Direct Well-Being Podcast, hosted by Dr. Anders Apgar, MD, FACOG, M.S. — an Ob/Gyn physician leader and nationally recognized voice in clinician well-being. This show is a trusted, peer-driven space for honest conversations about what actually supports physicians — beyond resilience training and surface-level wellness. Each week, Dr. Apgar sits down with physician leaders, partner organizations, and frontline clinicians to talk about the real drivers of distress: financial stress, mental and emotional health, family dynamics, and the systems in which physicians practice. Conversations are evidence-aligned, research-informed, and grounded in lived clinical experience — never promotional, always physician-first. Produced as a Direct Self Care production in partnership with the Doctor Podcast Network, the show integrates insight from the Well-Being Index, Champions of Wellness, Tend Health, and the broader Direct brand ecosystem to move listeners from awareness to agency. Whether you’re a practicing physician, a physician leader, a health system executive, or a partner of someone in medicine, this podcast offers an honest perspective and a path forward.

  1. Oct 7

    Listen Again: The Pattern I Didn't See Coming | Ep15

    What if physician well-being is ultimately about having choices?  Join Dr. Anders Apgar as he revisits earlier Direct Well-Being conversations and discovers a deeper theme connecting burnout, military medicine, family, finances, and career satisfaction: agency. He explores the freedom to make choices intentionally rather than feeling trapped by professional, financial, emotional obligations. The episode examines how today’s decisions shape future freedom, especially around money, career commitments, family, and lifestyle. Apgar encourages listeners to preserve optionality, revisit conversations, complete the Ghost worksheets, and consider what their future selves may value differently over time. Maybe the goal of well-being isn't creating a life where nothing is difficult. Maybe it's creating a life where you still have choices when things become difficult. Top Host Competition: https://tophost.org/2026/anders-apgar  Top 3 Actionable Takeaways: Revisit a Meaningful Conversation: Revisit one meaningful podcast episode and listen for a new perspective. Ask what the conversation means for your life today, rather than simply remembering what the guest said previously again.Complete the Ghost Worksheets: Complete the Ghost worksheets to examine current priorities, future values, and financial commitments. Identify decisions that could reduce your future options and consider where you can preserve flexibility going forward.Rethink Wealth and Security: Evaluate your definition of wealth and security. Consider whether your finances create meaningful choices, such as reducing work, changing direction, or saying no when circumstances no longer fit your life.About the Show: Direct Well-Being is hosted by Dr. Anders Apgar, MD, FACOG, M.S., a physician leader dedicated to transforming clinician well-being. The podcast creates space for honest, practical conversations about the factors that influence physician well-being, including financial stress, career sustainability, healthcare systems, relationships, and professional purpose. About the Host:  Anders Apgar, MD, FACOG, M.S., is a physician leader dedicated to transforming clinician well-being. As host of the Direct Well-Being Podcast, he leads honest conversations about the real drivers of distress : financial stress, mental health, family dynamics, and broken systems,  for physicians and the organizations that support them. A trusted voice in health care, Dr. Apgar blends lived clinical experience with evidence-aligned insights. He’s part of the Direct Ecosystem (Direct Self Care, Direct Wealth Care, Direct Practice Care), partnering with organizations like Tend Health, the Well-Being Index, and Champions of Wellness to move the conversation from awareness to agency. Connect with Dr. Anders Apgar Websites:  directwellbeingpodcast.com  Emails: General contact: info@directwellbeingpodcast.com  Listener feedback: feedback@directwellbeingpodcast.com   Guest pitches: guests@directwellbeingpodcast.com   Sponsorship conversations: sponsors@directwellbeingpodcast.com

    Listen Again: The Pattern I Didn't See Coming  | Ep15
  2. Sep 30

    The Number That Changes Everything: When Money Stops Controlling Your Medical Career - Part 2 | Ep14

    In Part 1, Dr. Jerry Schreibstein shared the money stories that shaped him. In Part 2, the conversation turns practical and personal. Together, they explore the real meaning of “enough,” why a financial plan must remain dynamic, and how the time value of money rewards early discipline more than perfect stock picks. They examine the high-stakes decisions of a physician’s 30s, housing, cars, savings habits, and contrast spending on experiences that create lasting emotional dividends with purchases that depreciate. The discussion also covers what it feels like to hit your number, how financial independence can restore joy and selectivity in clinical work, the language gap between physicians and traditional advisors, and why financial literacy itself should be treated as a core well-being intervention. Finally, Jerry offers targeted advice for residents, mid-career physicians, and those approaching retirement, and the single number every physician should know tonight.   Top 3 Actionable Takeaways: Define your personal “enough” number this week: Calculate the savings rate, lifestyle costs, and timeline that would let you meet your goals with a margin for speed bumps. Location, family needs, and desired experiences matter more than generic 25× rules. A clear target turns vague anxiety into a workable plan you can adjust over time.Protect compounding by building simple, automatic habits now: Maximize every employer match, fund an emergency reserve, and automate transfers into retirement and taxable accounts. Small, consistent amounts invested early outperform larger amounts started later. Discipline and time beat complex strategies for most physicians.Assemble a true financial team, not just an investment salesperson: Seek a planner who understands the physician life cycle, listens to your goals, and coordinates with a good accountant and attorney. Treat financial coaching the same way you treat clinical mentoring, expertise and accountability, accelerate progress and reduce costly mistakes.Resources Mentioned: How to Retire — Christine Benz About the Show: Direct Well-Being is hosted by Dr. Anders Apgar, MD, FACOG, M.S., a physician leader dedicated to transforming clinician well-being. The podcast creates space for honest, practical conversations about the factors that influence physician well-being, including financial stress, career sustainability, healthcare systems, relationships, and professional purpose. About the Guest: Dr. Jerry Schreibstein, MD, FACS, is a practicing otolaryngologist and President of Ear, Nose and Throat Surgeons of Western New England, with more than 30 years of experience leading a private single-specialty group in Western Massachusetts. He founded MD Wealthcare LLC and continues to advocate for physicians building sustainable careers through clinical excellence, financial literacy, and intentional life planning. About the Host:  Anders Apgar, MD, FACOG, M.S., is a physician leader dedicated to transforming clinician well-being. As host of the Direct Well-Being Podcast, he leads honest conversations about the real drivers of distress : financial stress, mental health, family dynamics, and broken systems,  for physicians and the organizations that support them. A trusted voice in health care, Dr. Apgar blends lived clinical experience with evidence-aligned insights. He’s part of the Direct Ecosystem (Direct Self Care, Direct Wealth Care, Direct Practice Care), partnering with organizations like Tend Health, the Well-Being Index, and Champions of Wellness to move the conversation from awareness to agency. Connect with Dr. Anders Apgar Websites:  directwellbeingpodcast.com  Emails: General contact: info@directwellbeingpodcast.com  Listener feedback: feedback@directwellbeingpodcast.com   Guest pitches: guests@directwellbeingpodcast.com   Sponsorship conversations: sponsors@directwellbeingpodcast.com

  3. Sep 23

    “The Number That Changes Everything: When Money Stops Controlling Your Medical Career” Part 1 | Ep13

    Physician burnout isn’t only about hours or systems. It is also about the quiet pressure that comes when income rises but freedom does not. In Part 1 of this two-part conversation, Dr. Anders Apgar welcomes Dr. Jerry Schreibstein, for an honest look at the money stories physicians carry into their careers. Jerry shares growing up in a blue-collar Brooklyn family, the blunt reality of student loans in an era of double-digit interest rates, and the lecture that first showed him how compound interest works against debtors.  Together they unpack why medical education can unintentionally create financially vulnerable adults, the psychological shift that happens when resident salaries become attending salaries, and the difference between building a lifestyle and building net worth. The conversation also explores lifestyle inflation, the burden of unpaid call, the value of experiences over depreciating assets, and why a dynamic financial plan, not a rigid endpoint, gives physicians real optionality over how they work and live. This is not a conversation about getting rich. It is a conversation about choices, time horizons, and reclaiming control. Resources Mentioned: The Millionaire Next Door — Thomas J. Stanley & William D. DankoTop 3 Actionable Takeaways: Extend the “live like a resident” window: After residency, deliberately keep your spending close to trainee levels for 1–2 extra years. Direct the new income toward debt reduction and savings instead of immediate lifestyle upgrades. This single habit prevents lifestyle inflation, accelerates net-worth growth, and creates early financial breathing room most physicians never recover later.Map your true financial horizon: Write down what you want your work and life to look like in 5, 10, and 20 years. Then reverse-engineer the savings rate and debt plan required to reach those options. A longer horizon changes daily spending decisions and protects you from the trap of high income without freedom.Trade depreciating assets for lasting optionality: Before any major purchase, ask whether it will still matter in ten years or simply lose value. Favor experiences, family time, and debt payoff over status cars or oversized houses. Financial security buys the ability to reduce call, adjust schedules, and protect what you value most.About the Show: Direct Well-Being is hosted by Dr. Anders Apgar, MD, FACOG, M.S., a physician leader dedicated to transforming clinician well-being. The podcast creates space for honest, practical conversations about the factors that influence physician well-being, including financial stress, career sustainability, healthcare systems, relationships, and professional purpose. About the Guest:  Dr. Jerry Schreibstein, MD, FACS, is a practicing otolaryngologist and President of Ear, Nose and Throat Surgeons of Western New England, with more than 30 years of experience leading a private single-specialty group in Western Massachusetts. He founded MD Wealthcare LLC and continues to advocate for physicians building sustainable careers through clinical excellence, financial literacy, and intentional life planning. About the Host:  Anders Apgar, MD, FACOG, M.S., is a physician leader dedicated to transforming clinician well-being. As host of the Direct Well-Being Podcast, he leads honest conversations about the real drivers of distress : financial stress, mental health, family dynamics, and broken systems,  for physicians and the organizations that support them. A trusted voice in health care, Dr. Apgar blends lived clinical experience with evidence-aligned insights. He’s part of the Direct Ecosystem (Direct Self Care, Direct Wealth Care, Direct Practice Care), partnering with organizations like Tend Health, the Well-Being Index, and Champions of Wellness to move the conversation from awareness to agency. Connect with Dr. Anders Apgar Website:  directwellbeingpodcast.com  Emails: General contact: info@directwellbeingpodcast.com  Listener feedback: feedback@directwellbeingpodcast.com   Guest pitches: guests@directwellbeingpodcast.com   Sponsorship conversations: sponsors@directwellbeingpodcast.com

    “The Number That Changes Everything: When Money Stops Controlling Your Medical Career” Part 1 | Ep13
  4. Sep 16

    How Do You Predict a Ghost? The Career Decisions We Make Before We Know What We’ll Love | Ep12

    What if the most consequential contract of your life is negotiated by a version of you who has never owned the things that contract will ask you to price?  At twenty-six or thirty, physicians are asked to decide about the next thirty years while still operating on static beliefs about family, health, energy, and identity. Medical training teaches endurance and self-sacrifice; the salary looks clean and comparable; the real equation, money plus sustainability, agency, health, and relationships minus the cost to sanity, rarely appears on the offer letter. This episode moves from awareness to agency. Dr. Apgar reflects on burnout measures, the impossibility of fully predicting the “ghost” of future children or caregiving needs, the accumulation of ordinary trade-offs, and the personal audit of time spent versus presence gained. He then assigns two concrete pieces of homework: a recognized burnout assessment and a Career Horizon Stress Test that forces valuation of reversibility, shadow prices, and optionality so that ambition does not sign away a future it has never bothered to calculate. Download the career Horizon Stress Test at https://directwellbeingpodcast.com/career-horizon . Print it, or take the PDF. Episode Highlights: The contract signed by a younger self who has never lived the life it will createBurnout scores as a check engine light, useful but incompleteSalary versus true career ROI: money,  sustainability,  agency, health and relationshipsWhy static beliefs at 28 or 30 are poor predictors of life at 45 or 55The personal cost of career decisions viewed through the eyes of one’s own childrenWhy “listen to people farther down the road” often fails as adviceHomework: Well Being Index assessment Career Horizon Stress Test with reverse auction and three commitmentsResources Mentioned: Well-Being Index demo: mywellbeingindex.orgCareer Horizon Stress Test: https://directwellbeingpodcast.com/career-horizon About the Show: Direct Well-Being is hosted by Dr. Anders Apgar, MD, FACOG, M.S., An Ob/Gyn physician leader and nationally recognized voice in clinician well-being. The show is a trusted, peer-driven space for honest conversations about what actually supports physicians, beyond resilience training and surface level wellness. Each week, Dr. Apgar sits down with physician leaders, partner organizations, and frontline clinicians to talk about the real drivers of distress: financial stress, mental and emotional health, family dynamics, and the systems in which physicians practice. Conversations are evidence-aligned, research informed, and grounded in lived clinical experience,  never promotional, always physician first. Produced as a Direct Self Care production in partnership with the Doctor Podcast Network, the show draws on insight from the Well-Being Index, Champions of Wellness, Tend Health, and the broader Direct ecosystem to move listeners from awareness to agency About the Host: Anders Apgar, MD, FACOG, M.S., is a physician leader dedicated to transforming clinician well-being. As host of the Direct Well Being Podcast, he leads honest conversations about the real drivers of distress : financial stress, mental health, family dynamics, and broken systems,  for physicians and the organizations that support them. A trusted voice in health care, Dr. Apgar blends lived clinical experience with evidence-aligned insights. He’s part of the Direct Ecosystem (Direct Self Care, Direct Wealth Care, Direct Practice Care), partnering with organizations like Tend Health, the Well-Being Index, and Champions of Wellness to move the conversation from awareness to agency. Connect with Dr. Anders Apgar: Website: directwellbeingpodcast.com  Emails: General contact: info@directwellbeingpodcast.comListener feedback: feedback@directwellbeingpodcast.comGuest pitches: guests@directwellbeingpodcast.comSponsorship conversations:   sponsors@directwellbeingpodcast.com

    How Do You Predict a Ghost? The Career Decisions We Make Before We Know What We’ll Love | Ep12
  5. Sep 9

    Taking Back Control Inside the System | Ep11

    Physicians spend years learning medicine but often receive little education about how healthcare actually works. Jonathan Moss, a longtime healthcare finance and revenue-cycle executive, explains why understanding FTEs, CPTs, RVUs, contracts, and organizational finances can help physicians make better career decisions while protecting their well-being and professional identity. The conversation goes beyond financial literacy to explore career crafting, finding meaningful work, building supportive networks, and recognizing when a career no longer aligns with personal values. Jonathan emphasizes living within your means, saving for the future, and creating enough financial flexibility to give physicians choices about their workload, purpose, and future. Listeners will learn how financial literacy, career crafting, and physician agency can create greater control, flexibility, and satisfaction throughout their medical careers. Episode Highlights The 20% Rule: Why physicians should build at least part of their careers around work they genuinely enjoy.The Physician’s Missing Owner’s Manual: Understanding FTEs, CPTs, and RVUs, and why these terms matter to your career.Stop Letting Your Career Own You: How financial freedom can give physicians the agency to change their workload and direction.Your Contract Could Change Your Life: Why physicians should never rush into a contract without trusted advisors reviewing the details.Productivity versus Value: Why every RVU has a hidden cost, and how a negative ROI can contribute to burnout.Don’t Keep Up With the Joneses: How oversized mortgages, expensive lifestyles, and excessive work can trap physicians financially.Build Your Posse: Why mentors, colleagues, coaches, therapists, and professional networks can help physicians navigate burnout, imposter syndrome, and career transitions.About the Guest: Jonathan Moss is a finance and revenue-cycle executive with more than 25 years of experience in healthcare. He has also spent approximately a decade focused on physician well-being and has taught residents about the business of medicine, well-being, and personal finance. His work bridges healthcare finance, operations, and physician wellness. About the Show: Direct Well-Being is hosted by Dr. Anders Apgar, MD, FACOG, M.S., a physician leader dedicated to transforming clinician well-being. The podcast creates space for honest, practical conversations about the factors that influence physician well-being, including financial stress, career sustainability, healthcare systems, relationships, and professional purpose. About the Host:  Anders Apgar, MD, FACOG, M.S., is a physician leader dedicated to transforming clinician well-being. As host of the Direct Well-Being Podcast, he leads honest conversations about the real drivers of distress : financial stress, mental health, family dynamics, and broken systems,  for physicians and the organizations that support them. A trusted voice in health care, Dr. Apgar blends lived clinical experience with evidence-aligned insights. He’s part of the Direct Ecosystem (Direct Self Care, Direct Wealth Care, Direct Practice Care), partnering with organizations like Tend Health, the Well-Being Index, and Champions of Wellness to move the conversation from awareness to agency. Connect with Dr. Anders Apgar Websites:  directwellbeingpodcast.com  Emails: General contact: info@directwellbeingpodcast.com  Listener feedback: feedback@directwellbeingpodcast.com   Guest pitches: guests@directwellbeingpodcast.com   Sponsorship conversations: sponsors@directwellbeingpodcast.com

    Taking Back Control Inside the System  | Ep11
  6. Sep 2

    The Kids' Side of the Story | Ep10

    What happens when medicine isn't just a parent's career, but something woven into the fabric of family life?  In this special episode of Direct Well-Being, Dr. Anders Apgar hands the microphones to two of his children, Katie and Sean, to hear what it was really like growing up with both parents practicing full-scope OB/GYN. Katie and Sean Apgar discuss call schedules, patient privacy, missed events, demanding workdays, and the unique experience of having parents whose careers could change family plans unexpectedly. Yet they emphasize that medicine never defined their parents completely or diminished their sense of family connection. They explain how they learned to recognize their parents' difficult days, understand work-related stress, and appreciate the effort required to be present. They discuss whether money, vacations, and experiences could compensate for missed time, ultimately emphasizing gratitude rather than resentment. They also reflect on how growing up around medicine influenced their own career choices and perspectives on work. Perhaps the most important lesson comes from what physician parents may not realize their children notice. Katie and Sean encourage parents to recognize their emotions, communicate honestly, repair after difficult moments, and avoid assuming children understand less than they actually do. Their message is reassuring: physician parents do not need perfection; they need awareness, presence, emotional intelligence, and genuine connection. Episode Highlights: Growing up with two physicians and discovering how different their family's lifestyle was from their peersLearning about call schedules, HIPAA, patient privacy, and the unique boundaries of physician workUnderstanding how children recognize parents' emotions, stress, and difficult daysNavigating missed games and events while learning to appreciate the effort parents made to be presentExploring whether money, vacations, and experiences can ever replace family timeHow growing up around medicine influenced Katie's psychology path and Sean's decision to pursue medicineWhy children notice more than parents realize, and why emotional awareness, honesty, communication, and repair matterAbout the Show: Direct Well-Being is hosted by Dr. Anders Apgar, MD, FACOG, M.S., An Ob/Gyn physician leader and nationally recognized voice in clinician well-being. The show is a trusted, peer-driven space for honest conversations about what actually supports physicians, beyond resilience training and surface-level wellness. Each week, Dr. Apgar sits down with physician leaders, partner organizations, and frontline clinicians to talk about the real drivers of distress: financial stress, mental and emotional health, family dynamics, and the systems in which physicians practice. Conversations are evidence-aligned, research-informed, and grounded in lived clinical experience,  never promotional, always physician-first. Produced as a Direct Self Care production in partnership with the Doctor Podcast Network, the show draws on insight from the Well-Being Index, Champions of Wellness, Tend Health, and the broader Direct ecosystem to move listeners from awareness to agency. About the Guest:  Katie Apgar is the daughter of host Dr. Anders Apgar and was raised in a two-physician household. Now studying psychology with plans to pursue clinical psychology, Katie brings a thoughtful perspective to the conversation about family dynamics, emotional intelligence, parenting, and the experience of growing up with physician parents.  Sean Apgar is the son of host Dr. Anders Apgar and is currently studying pre-medicine with plans to pursue a career as a physician. Having grown up with both parents practicing OB/GYN, Sean offers a unique perspective as someone who has chosen to enter medicine himself while also recognizing the demands and challenges he witnessed throughout his childhood.  About the Host:  Anders Apgar, MD, FACOG, M.S., is a physician leader dedicated to transforming clinician well-being. As host of the Direct Well-Being Podcast, he leads honest conversations about the real drivers of distress : financial stress, mental health, family dynamics, and broken systems,  for physicians and the organizations that support them. A trusted voice in health care, Dr. Apgar blends lived clinical experience with evidence-aligned insights. He’s part of the Direct Ecosystem (Direct Self Care, Direct Wealth Care, Direct Practice Care), partnering with organizations like Tend Health, the Well-Being Index, and Champions of Wellness to move the conversation from awareness to agency. Connect with Dr. Anders Apgar Websites:  directwellbeingpodcast.com  Emails: General contact: info@directwellbeingpodcast.com  Listener feedback: feedback@directwellbeingpodcast.com   Guest pitches: guests@directwellbeingpodcast.com   Sponsorship conversations: sponsors@directwellbeingpodcast.com

    The Kids' Side of the Story | Ep10
  7. Aug 26

    The Price of Security | Ep9

    What does a physician actually sign up for when they choose military medicine?  Dr. Aaron Pitney made that decision in his early twenties as a West Point cadet, one of only about 20 graduates each year selected for medical school. He received a debt-free education through the Uniformed Services University, a living stipend, and the structured pathway of Army medicine, then discovered, after 9/11, that the career he imagined at places like Walter Reed would be redefined by two decades of conflict in Iraq and Afghanistan. In this conversation, Pitney walks through the full arc: the cooperative, high-investment training environment of military graduate medical education; the financial security that came with knowing exactly when promotions and specialty pay would arrive; the moment a department chief told the brand-new staff hematologist-oncologist he was deploying; and the family calculus of repeated moves, temporary duty, and a spouse who became the stabilizing force for three children. He contrasts military loss of autonomy with the different bargains civilian physicians make around contracts, RVUs, insurance, and productivity metrics, and reflects on what civilian colleagues often misunderstand about the dual identity of physician and military officer. The episode also explores moral injury on deployment (standing in an Iraqi hospital with no tools to treat a child with advanced malignancy), the profound impact of humanitarian missions, who thrives in military medicine and who struggles, and the practical advice Pitney would give his younger self: hold the opportunity with an open hand, bloom where you’re planted, and recognize that the circumstances often self-organize toward the life you were meant to live. A rich, honest discussion of security, sacrifice, meaning, and the invisible costs that never appear on a spreadsheet. Episode Highlights: What a 20-something West Point cadet thought he was signing up for versus the post-9/11 reality Debt-free college and medical school, living stipends, and the Depression-era money mindset that shaped the decision Why military GME invests so heavily: faculty are training their future colleagues, not competitors Family impact: moves, TDYs, deployments, and the critical role of the military partner as household “manager” Civilian versus military autonomy bargains, insurance, RVUs, call, and “Fort Carson or Fort X” What civilian physicians often misunderstand (and what they respect) about military medicine Standing on the tarmac in 2003: “Is this the last time I stand in the United States?” Humanitarian missions in Thailand and the lasting power of those experiences Who military medicine is a great fit for, and the wiring that makes it a poor fit The 20-year pension as a major decision point and the value of holding opportunity with an open hand Advice to the young Aaron Pitney about to sign the papers About the Show: Direct Well-Being is hosted by Dr. Anders Apgar, MD, FACOG, M.S., An Ob/Gyn physician leader and nationally recognized voice in clinician well-being. The show is a trusted, peer-driven space for honest conversations about what actually supports physicians, beyond resilience training and surface-level wellness. Each week, Dr. Apgar sits down with physician leaders, partner organizations, and frontline clinicians to talk about the real drivers of distress: financial stress, mental and emotional health, family dynamics, and the systems in which physicians practice. Conversations are evidence-aligned, research-informed, and grounded in lived clinical experience,  never promotional, always physician-first. Produced as a Direct Self Care production in partnership with the Doctor Podcast Network, the show draws on insight from the Well-Being Index, Champions of Wellness, Tend Health, and the broader Direct ecosystem to move listeners from awareness to agency. About the Guest: Dr. Aaron Pitney is a retired U.S. Army Colonel who spent 30 years as a Medical Corps officer. A West Point graduate selected for medical school among only ~2% of his class, he trained as a pediatrician and completed a fellowship in pediatric hematology-oncology. His career spanned Walter Reed, Hawaii, San Antonio, and multiple deployments and leadership roles, including command positions. He now serves as a medical director with Aetna Healthcare. He speaks candidly about the financial security, training excellence, deployments, family impact, and autonomy trade-offs of military medicine. About the Host: Anders Apgar, MD, FACOG, M.S., is a physician leader dedicated to transforming clinician well-being. As host of the Direct Well-Being Podcast, he leads honest conversations about the real drivers of distress : financial stress, mental health, family dynamics, and broken systems,  for physicians and the organizations that support them. A trusted voice in health care, Dr. Apgar blends lived clinical experience with evidence-aligned insights. He’s part of the Direct Ecosystem (Direct Self Care, Direct Wealth Care, Direct Practice Care), partnering with organizations like Tend Health, the Well-Being Index, and Champions of Wellness to move the conversation from awareness to agency. Connect with Dr. Anders Apgar: Websites:  directwellbeingpodcast.com , dwbpodcast.com  Emails: For Host/business identity:   drapgar@directwellbeingpodcast.com General contact: info@directwellbeingpodcast.com Listener feedback: feedback@directwellbeingpodcast.com Guest pitches: guests@directwellbeingpodcast.com Sponsorship conversations:   sponsors@directwellbeingpodcast.com

    The Price of Security | Ep9
  8. Aug 19

    Losing Yourself - and Finding Your Way Back | EP8

    Burnout rarely happens overnight. It often begins quietly, with lost sleep, neglected hobbies, less time with loved ones, irritability, dread about going to work, and the gradual loss of the person behind the physician. In this deeply personal conversation, Dr. Diane Shannon draws on her own experience leaving clinical medicine and her years coaching physicians to explain what she sees in physicians who feel stuck, exhausted, or unsure whether they can continue practicing. She emphasizes that coaching isn't about telling physicians what is wrong with them or giving them a predetermined solution. Instead, it creates space for awareness, reflection, and better questions. Dr. Shannon and Dr. Apgar explores the difference between dedication and self-sacrifice, the unique pressures experienced by women physicians, and how identity can become so intertwined with medicine that stepping away, or even imagining a different career, feels almost impossible. The discussion goes beyond burnout recovery to ask a bigger question: What does a meaningful and sustainable career actually look like for you? From finding time for what you love to recognizing when you're on the wrong “ladder,” this episode offers physicians a practical framework for pausing, reassessing their lives, and rediscovering the possibility of joy in medicine. Episode Highlights: Burnout is usually a slow drift, signaled by early signs such as dread, irritability, sleep disruption, and loss of exercise or connection. Physicians don’t need more resilience; they need awareness, better questions, and the distinction between dedication and self-sacrifice. Going upstream reveals the real drivers of workplace frustration, including the unique pressures women physicians face (caregiving, cognitive load, interruptions, and bias). Micro changes and small workflow experiments can produce outsized improvements in burnout and career satisfaction. Making medicine your entire identity makes transitions harder; rediscovering parts of yourself outside medicine is essential. Meaningful work and sustainable work are different questions, reserve at least part of your role for what you’re passionate about. Coaching is most powerful before complete burnout, especially during major life or career transitions, and recovery is possible (sometimes requiring time away). About the Show: Direct Well-Being is hosted by Dr. Anders Apgar, MD, FACOG, M.S., An Ob/Gyn physician leader and nationally recognized voice in clinician well-being. The show is a trusted, peer-driven space for honest conversations about what actually supports physicians, beyond resilience training and surface-level wellness. Each week, Dr. Apgar sits down with physician leaders, partner organizations, and frontline clinicians to talk about the real drivers of distress: financial stress, mental and emotional health, family dynamics, and the systems in which physicians practice. Conversations are evidence-aligned, research-informed, and grounded in lived clinical experience,  never promotional, always physician-first. Produced as a Direct Self Care production in partnership with the Doctor Podcast Network, the show draws on insight from the Well-Being Index, Champions of Wellness, Tend Health, and the broader Direct ecosystem to move listeners from awareness to agency. About the Guest: Dr. Diane Shannon is an internal medicine physician and professional coach who has spent the past seven years coaching physicians and healthcare leaders. Her work focuses on helping physicians create sustainable careers and navigate difficult professional and personal transitions. Drawing from her own experience leaving clinical medicine and later working as a healthcare writer, Dr. Shannon brings a deeply personal understanding of physician identity, burnout, career change, and the challenge of rediscovering who you are outside of your professional role. She uses a coaching approach centered on awareness, powerful questions, and small intentional changes rather than prescribing one-size-fits-all solutions. Website:  dianeshannon.com About the Host: Anders Apgar, MD, FACOG, M.S., is a physician leader dedicated to transforming clinician well-being. As host of the Direct Well-Being Podcast, he leads honest conversations about the real drivers of distress : financial stress, mental health, family dynamics, and broken systems,  for physicians and the organizations that support them. A trusted voice in health care, Dr. Apgar blends lived clinical experience with evidence-aligned insights. He’s part of the Direct Ecosystem (Direct Self Care, Direct Wealth Care, Direct Practice Care), partnering with organizations like Tend Health, the Well-Being Index, and Champions of Wellness to move the conversation from awareness to agency. Connect with Dr. Anders Apgar: Websites:  directwellbeingpodcast.com , dwbpodcast.com  Emails: For Host/business identity:drapgar@directwellbeingpodcast.com General contact: info@directwellbeingpodcast.com  Listener feedback: feedback@directwellbeingpodcast.com  Guest pitches: guests@directwellbeingpodcast.com  Sponsorship conversations:sponsors@directwellbeingpodcast.com

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Welcome to the Direct Well-Being Podcast, hosted by Dr. Anders Apgar, MD, FACOG, M.S. — an Ob/Gyn physician leader and nationally recognized voice in clinician well-being. This show is a trusted, peer-driven space for honest conversations about what actually supports physicians — beyond resilience training and surface-level wellness. Each week, Dr. Apgar sits down with physician leaders, partner organizations, and frontline clinicians to talk about the real drivers of distress: financial stress, mental and emotional health, family dynamics, and the systems in which physicians practice. Conversations are evidence-aligned, research-informed, and grounded in lived clinical experience — never promotional, always physician-first. Produced as a Direct Self Care production in partnership with the Doctor Podcast Network, the show integrates insight from the Well-Being Index, Champions of Wellness, Tend Health, and the broader Direct brand ecosystem to move listeners from awareness to agency. Whether you’re a practicing physician, a physician leader, a health system executive, or a partner of someone in medicine, this podcast offers an honest perspective and a path forward.

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