Navigators

Paul Klein, CEO of Browserbase

Paul Klein IV, Founder & CEO of Browserbase, is hosting Navigators: A series where he speaks with AI leaders and builders, navigating what's next with the future of AI.

Episodes

  1. 2d ago

    Airtable CEO Howie Liu on rebuilding agent-first

    Yesterday, Airtable got acquired for $1.285B by Bending Spoons. What people don't know is that Hyperagent spun out into it's own company. Howie Liu is doubling down on Agent-first software, and helped build the MVP himself. On this episode of Navigators, filmed just last month, we sat down to talk about how the Airtable team is rebuilding itself around agents through Hyperagent, why the product form factor has to structurally change with every leap in model capability, and the lean, agent-first companies being born out of all of it. ⁠00:00⁠ Why every model leap forces the product to change shape ⁠02:51⁠ Spinning Hyperagent out of Airtable ⁠05:56⁠ Why Hyperagent bets on horizontal, against the conventional wisdom ⁠10:45⁠ OpenClaw and the overnight-agent stories ⁠13:34⁠ Hyperagent is to OpenClaw what the Macintosh was to Linux ⁠14:57⁠ Why Howie built the Hyperagent MVP himself over the holidays ⁠18:18⁠ "Harness Squared": why the real value lives above the model ⁠28:57⁠ Hyperagent and the rise of lean, agent-first companies Checkout Navigators, our new pod on Youtube, Spotify, and Apple Podcasts!

    Airtable CEO Howie Liu on rebuilding agent-first

  2. Jul 27

    The Blank Canvas Problem is slowing AI adoption across America | Gusto Co-Founder Edward Kim

    Most people still use AI as a glorified search engine. Edward Kim (Co-Founder and Head of Technology at Gusto) thinks that's the blank canvas problem, and it's what's slowing AI adoption across America. In this episode of Navigators, Paul Klein sits down with Edward to talk about the blank canvas problem, what AI adoption really looks like in the real economy, and what it takes to build a SaaS company today. They also talk about Gusto Cofounder, a new AI agent that runs the operational work of a small business and only checks in when it needs you. CHAPTERS: 00:00 Intro 03:39 Prototyping a product in an airport with Claude Code 06:06 Shipping in 10 weeks with no Jira and 9-minute code reviews 10:05 The blank canvas problem and why it stalls AI adoption 12:09 The headless future: running your business by text 13:50 Why 99.9% of people still use AI as a search engine 15:21 Building AI for the small businesses ChatGPT forgot 25:22 Why everyone on the team is a builder now Browserbase gives AI agents a browser to operate in. Navigators is our series of conversations with the people building the agentic future. Checkout Navigators on Spotify, YouTube and Apple Podcasts.

    The Blank Canvas Problem is slowing AI adoption across America | Gusto Co-Founder Edward Kim

  3. Jul 8

    A $4B founder on the one thing holding back every AI agent

    Aaron Levie (Co-Founder & CEO of Box) has run Box through three platform shifts: cloud, mobile, and now AI. In this episode of Navigator, Paul sits down with him in Redwood City to talk about what's actually changing as agents take over knowledge work. Aaron makes the case that most "AI problems" are actually context problems. Agents need access to the 90%+ of enterprise data that's unstructured, and giving them the right information in a tiny window of time and space is the real unsolved challenge. He also breaks down why there's a growing gap between model capability and real-world adoption, why the applied layer will stay valuable even as frontier models get more powerful, and why founders building today need to treat go-to-market as the new scarce resource now that building software is cheap. Topics covered: Why agents use data more like people do than computers ever did The "model overhang": why capability is outpacing adoption Why Silicon Valley will always move faster than the real economy, and why that's fine How Box is rebuilding its own ops around agents internally Headless SaaS, agent-native pricing, and what happens when agents outnumber humans 100 to 1 Why the applied layer wins even in a bitter lesson world Aaron's advice for founders starting companies from scratch today

    A $4B founder on the one thing holding back every AI agent
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Paul Klein IV, Founder & CEO of Browserbase, is hosting Navigators: A series where he speaks with AI leaders and builders, navigating what's next with the future of AI.

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  • Creator
    Paul Klein, CEO of Browserbase
  • Years Active
    2026
  • Episodes
    3
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    Clean
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    © Paul Klein, CEO of Browserbase
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