The Future of Learning Podcast

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Welcome to The Future of Learning, hosted by Andy Howie and brought to you by Open eLMS, where we explore the biggest challenges, emerging trends and future opportunities shaping education, workplace learning and human capability development. Through conversations with leading thinkers, innovators and practitioners, we uncover what learning looks like today and where it is heading next!

  1. Oct 6

    Britain's First Openly Gay Black Police Officer on Learning, Leadership and Belonging | Gamal Turawa

    What can 26 years in policing teach us about learning, leadership and what it really means to belong?Gamal “G” Turawa spent 26 years in the Metropolitan Police, becoming Britain's first openly gay Black police officer. His extraordinary journey later became the subject of the BAFTA-winning short film The Black Cop, and today he uses those experiences to help organisations rethink leadership, inclusion and how meaningful change actually happens. In this episode of the Future of Learning Podcast, G joins Andy Howie to explore the difference between simply including people and creating an environment where they genuinely feel able to speak, question and be themselves.They discuss what organisations get wrong about belonging, why good intentions can still have the wrong impact, the importance of skilled facilitation, and why leaders need to become comfortable with discomfort. G also shares how powerful training experiences changed his own understanding of identity and human behaviour, and what those experiences taught him about creating learning that reaches beyond policies and compliance.A conversation about learning, but also about listening.G Turawa: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gamal-turawa/00:00 Belonging or Compliance?01:40 Meet Gamal Turawa02:19 What Does It Really Mean to Belong?05:03 Psychological Safety vs the Appearance of It06:08 The Five Bs of Belonging12:15 Are Organisations Actually Making Progress?15:56 Why Putting People Into Boxes Doesn't Work20:43 How Good Leaders Get Inclusion Wrong24:17 Becoming Comfortable With Discomfort27:17 Open eLMS29:01 The Power of Being Genuinely Heard32:05 What Is It Like to Be You?35:44 How Do We Bridge the Divide?38:35 Why Difficult Conversations Need Skilled Facilitators41:03 How Organisational Culture Really Changes43:11 G's Extraordinary Story of Identity and Belonging46:17 Who Defines You?49:05 How Training Changed G's Life52:49 Could AI Remove the Humanity From Learning?54:38 What Should AI Never Be Allowed to Do?56:22 What Kind of Leaders Do We Actually Want?57:37 G's One Final MessageFor more visit www.openelms.com#FutureOfLearning #Leadership #LearningAndDevelopment #Belonging #WorkplaceLearning #InclusiveLeadership #OpenELMS

  2. Sep 29

    How to Destroy Two Weeks of Training in Two Minutes | Dr Robert Brinkerhoff

    Why does great training still fail to create better performance?Dr Robert Brinkerhoff, internationally recognised expert in training evaluation and creator of the Success Case Method, joins Andy Howie on the Future of Learning Podcast to challenge one of L&D's biggest assumptions: that better training automatically produces better results.Drawing on decades of research and experience, Rob explains how a manager can undo two weeks of training in just minutes, why brilliant training can still produce mediocre results, and why organisations need to look beyond course completion and learner satisfaction when measuring impact.Could AI help us improve performance, or will using it simply to generate more content make an existing problem even worse?Connect with Dr Robert Brinkerhoff on LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/robert-brinkerhoff-7b8a224/Learn more about Open eLMS:www.openelms.comCreate AI-powered learning:www.openelms.aiChapters00:00 Does Training Actually Work?02:48 Meet Dr Robert Brinkerhoff04:50 The Discovery That Changed How Rob Evaluates Training09:41 Why Averages Don't Tell You If Training Works12:34 How the Success Case Method Finds Real Impact16:26 Employees Trained on Machines They Couldn't Touch18:53 How a Manager Destroyed Two Weeks of Training22:18 Why Managers Make or Break Learning27:35 When Companies Bought Training "By the Pound"31:13 What AI Rollouts Can Learn From 50 Years of L&D37:42 Why L&D Needs to Evaluate Earlier38:58 Stop Measuring Satisfaction. Measure Behaviour41:04 What Can We Learn From People Who Don't Use Training?45:13 Training as an Event vs Learning in the Flow of Work47:37 Could AI Make L&D's Content Problem Worse?50:22 Stop Selling Training. Start Selling Value53:10 Why L&D Still Hasn't Fixed the Problem56:37 The Training Failures That Keep Repeating57:52 What Young L&D Professionals Should Do Differently59:56 Is L&D Actually Getting Better?#RobertBrinkerhoff #LearningAndDevelopment #LearningTransfer #Training #TrainingEvaluation #WorkplaceLearning #Leadership #BehaviourChange #SuccessCaseMethod #LND #CorporateTraining #TrainingEffectiveness #EmployeeDevelopment #LearningImpact #FutureOfLearning #OpenELMS

  3. Sep 22

    AI Is Killing Instructional Design. And That's a Good Thing | Dan Streeter, Mission Fuel AI

    What happens to instructional designers when AI can do in hours what once took hundreds of hours?When ChatGPT first arrived, Dan Streeter thought instructional design might be finished. Today, the Founder and CEO of Mission Fuel AI believes the exact opposite: this could be the profession's biggest opportunity yet.In Episode 29 of the Future of Learning Podcast, Dan joins Andy Howie to explore how AI is transforming eLearning production, why instructional designers need to move beyond scripting and button-pushing, and how the role could evolve towards analysing performance, evaluating impact and creating genuine behaviour change.They discuss the shift from 200-hour course builds to AI-generated learning in a fraction of the time, where human judgement and subject matter expertise remain essential, the danger of "AI slop", true personalisation, and why Dan believes instructional designers could play a crucial role in retraining a billion people for an AI-driven economy.The technology is changing the job. The question is what instructional designers choose to do with the time it gives back.Learn more about Open eLMS:www.openelms.comCreate AI-powered learning:www.openelms.aiLearn more about Mission Fuel AI.https://missionfuel.ai/#InstructionalDesign #ArtificialIntelligence #Elearning #LearningAndDevelopment #FutureOfLearning #AI #OpenELMSChapters00:00 Is AI Killing Instructional Design?01:23 Dan's First Reaction to ChatGPT03:00 From Instructional Designer to Performance Engineer06:02 From 200 Hours to 208:03 Does Instructional Design Still Have a Future?11:13 AI vs Human Judgement13:14 The Three Questions AI Can't Fully Answer16:16 Why Subject Matter Experts Still Matter18:01 The Danger of "AI Slop"20:10 Building an AI Course Live23:52 Is AI Taking Instructional Design Jobs?25:23 One Billion People Need Retraining28:36 Where the Human Must Stay in the Loop36:07 How AI Has Changed eLearning Forever40:50 What Great Instructional Design Still Gets Right43:36 Why L&D Leaders Need to Start Experimenting45:19 The Skills Instructional Designers Still Need48:59 Dan's Final Message: Instructional Design Isn't Over

  4. Sep 14

    Don't Adopt AI Until You've Done This | Dr Tara Robertson Moore, Nexus Circular

    What happens when organisations rush into AI before putting the right foundations in place? In Episode 28 of the Future of Learning Podcast, Andy Howie speaks with Dr Tara Robertson Moore, an L&D leader with more than 15 years of experience across government, technology, finance and manufacturing. Her PhD research focused on diffusion of innovation theory, exploring why organisations actually adopt, resist or stall on new learning technologies. Tara explains why AI adoption should not be treated simply as an IT project. They discuss why governance and guardrails need to come before rollout, what "human in the loop" actually means in practice, why employees must take ownership of AI-generated work, and whether organisations risk falling behind by being too cautious. The conversation also explores Tara's research into the diffusion of innovation, why trusted colleagues can drive technology adoption more effectively than corporate announcements, and how her organisation created internal "AI Sherpas" to help people embrace AI safely. Tara also explains why L&D leaders should focus less on justifying their existence and more on proving their impact. 00:00 Introduction: Dr Tara Robertson Moore02:21 Why Technology Adoption Breaks06:00 Building L&D From the Ground Up08:55 Why AI Governance Must Come First12:33 What "Human in the Loop" Actually Means15:24 Why You Should Question AI's Answers17:40 The "AI Cowboys" Who Want More Power20:01 Why AI Governance Needs Sceptics21:11 Open eLMS22:47 Can Being Too Cautious With AI Hold You Back?26:53 What Compliance Training Teaches Us About L&D29:10 How Compliance Changed Tara's Approach to Training33:40 Why People Actually Adopt New Technology34:07 The Diffusion of Innovation Theory35:00 How "AI Sherpas" Drive Adoption38:24 What Makes Someone Adopt New Technology?41:15 The S-Curve of Technology Adoption42:57 Stop Measuring ROI. Start Measuring Impact47:04 How L&D Proves Its Value49:06 Stop Justifying L&D. Prove It49:28 AI Isn't an IT Project Chapters

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Welcome to The Future of Learning, hosted by Andy Howie and brought to you by Open eLMS, where we explore the biggest challenges, emerging trends and future opportunities shaping education, workplace learning and human capability development. Through conversations with leading thinkers, innovators and practitioners, we uncover what learning looks like today and where it is heading next!