Beyond the Ceremony

Jason Fellows

Beyond the Ceremony is a podcast about what happens before, during, and long after the ceremony ends. Hosted by Jason and Kelly Fellows of Tribal Detox, each episode explores the intersection of Kambo, Bufo, psychedelics, spirituality, personal growth, and the science of healing. Through honest conversations, interviews, and years of firsthand experience, we dive into the questions that don't always have simple answers. You'll hear discussions on consciousness, trauma, integration, plant and amphibian medicines, nervous system health, ancient traditions, modern research, and what it means to live a more authentic life. Whether you're completely new to this world or have spent years walking the path, Beyond the Ceremony offers thoughtful conversations grounded in curiosity, humility, and real-world experience. New episodes released regularly.

Episodes

  1. 1d ago

    Episode 6: The Story Behind Tribal Detox | Childhood Trauma, Complex PTSD & Kambo

    Send us Fan Mail In this deeply personal episode, Jason shares the full story behind the version most people have only heard in passing. From childhood trauma and years of psychological suffering to discovering plant and amphibian medicines, this conversation explores the path that eventually led to the creation of Tribal Detox. It also highlights an important truth that often gets overlooked: medicine can open the door, but it doesn't do the work for you. Jason and Kelly discuss: Jason's earliest childhood trauma and how it shaped his nervous system.Growing up with chronic fear, Tourette's symptoms, intrusive thoughts, anxiety, depression, and emotional dysregulation.Why many people assumed his struggles came from military service when they actually began years earlier.His time in the U.S. Coast Guard and the events that ultimately led to his discharge.Living for years with suicidal ideation, panic attacks, insomnia, nightmares, and the feeling that he was losing his mind.The therapist who first suggested Complex PTSD and why Jason chose not to pursue medication.The series of coincidences that introduced him to ayahuasca.What ayahuasca gave him—and why it ultimately wasn't his primary medicine.His first experience with Kambo deep in the Peruvian Amazon with the Matsés people.The dramatic changes he experienced after that first session.How Kambo became less of a treatment and more of a calling.Why he left his original Kambo training organization and began questioning many of the accepted practices.The research that changed his understanding of Kambo, including its bioactive peptides and a more physiology-based approach to serving the medicine.Why Tribal Detox teaches smaller, more manageable sessions focused on safety rather than intensity.The evolution of the Kambo school and the responsibility of training practitioners.How Kelly became the mirror that helped Jason recognize patterns he couldn't see in himself.The difference between symptom relief and true healing.Why integration, honest relationships, and accountability are just as important as the medicine itself.This episode is our most personal conversation yet. It's a story about trauma, healing, responsibility, and the long road of becoming someone capable of helping others. Healing isn't a destination. It's an ongoing practice. Learn More Tribal Detox Kambo Practitioner Training https://www.tribaldetox.com/schools Questions or feedback? Email: tribaldetox@gmail.com Subscribe so you don't miss future conversations as we explore plant medicines, integration, spirituality, science, psychology, and everything that happens beyond the ceremony.

  2. Jul 16

    Episode 5: Sterling Zayas – From Rock Bottom to Remembering Who You Are

    Send us Fan Mail What happens when you've tried everything... and nothing works? In this powerful episode, we sit down with medicine woman and facilitator Sterling Zayas to explore one of the most remarkable healing journeys we've heard. From severe childhood health complications and multiple blood transfusions to a full hysterectomy in her early twenties, years of anxiety, depression, eating disorders, suicidal thoughts, and psychiatric medications, Sterling reached a point where she and her family had exhausted every conventional option. Then something unexpected happened. Plant medicine entered her life. What followed wasn't simply symptom relief. It was a complete transformation of how she understood herself, healing, spirituality, and her purpose in this world. Sterling shares her deeply personal experiences with psilocybin, MDMA, Kambo, and Bufo, along with the lessons each medicine revealed and how they ultimately led her to become a facilitator herself. This is a conversation about courage, surrender, faith, and discovering that healing often begins where certainty ends. In this episode we discuss: Sterling's lifelong struggle with chronic illness and mental healthLiving through anxiety, depression, eating disorders, and suicidal thoughtsUndergoing a full hysterectomy in her early twentiesHer experience with psychiatric medications and why they ultimately failed herThe difficult process of coming off antidepressants and benzodiazepinesWhy her parents chose to experience plant medicine before encouraging her to participateSterling's first psilocybin ceremony and the experience that changed her lifeSpiritual awakening, healing, and finding purposeThe importance of integration after transformational experiencesWorking with MDMA and psilocybin for trauma and emotional healingDiscovering Kambo and learning to trust the body's innate ability to healTraining with Tribal Detox to become a Kambo practitionerHer journey into Bufo and what the medicine taught her about God, love, and consciousnessWhat it truly means to walk the path of a medicine womanWhy healing is ultimately a choice to meet the greatest version of yourselfThis episode is a reminder that healing isn't reserved for a lucky few. Sometimes the greatest transformation begins the moment we decide we're no longer willing to stay where we are. Mentioned in this episode PsilocybinMDMAKamboBufo (5-MeO-DMT)IntegrationPlant medicineSpiritual awakeningTrauma healingMental healthTribal DetoxConnect with Sterling Zayas 🌐 Website: https://www.theheavenlypriestess.com 📱 Instagram: @theheavenlypriestess If Sterling's story resonated with you and you'd like to learn more about her work, you can connect with her through her website or Instagram. Subscribe so you don't miss future conversations as we explore plant medicines, integration, spirituality, science, psychology, and everything that happens beyond the ceremony.

  3. Jul 15

    Episode 4: From Addiction to Healing – Jesse's Journey Through Recovery, Kambo, and Brain Health

    Send us Fan Mail What happens when the very system that's supposed to help you no longer has the answers? In this powerful conversation, we sit down with Jesse, a certified bionutritionist and longtime addiction recovery advocate, to explore her deeply personal journey through opioid addiction, postpartum depression, antidepressant dependency, grief, and ultimately finding healing through Kambo. Jesse shares how years of struggling with mental health and addiction led her to discover a completely different approach to healing. One centered not only on psychology, but on biology, nutrition, brain chemistry, and personal responsibility. We also explore the often overlooked connection between amino acids, neurotransmitters, peptides, and mental health, and why she believes true healing requires far more than simply treating symptoms. This is a conversation about hope, resilience, and discovering that healing is possible, even after years of believing you were broken. In this episode we discuss: Jesse's battle with addiction and recoveryPostpartum depression and returning to antidepressantsThe challenges of coming off psychiatric medicationsThe role nutrition and brain chemistry play in mental healthDiscovering Kambo after years of searching for reliefHow Kambo helped her leave antidepressants behindThe importance of integration and long term maintenanceChronic health issues, endometriosis, and unexpected physical improvementsGrief after losing her husband to addictionNavigating recovery while raising children as a single motherThe intersection of addiction, trauma, and spiritualityThe science behind amino acids, neurotransmitters, and peptidesWhy Jesse became a certified bionutritionistHow brain chemistry influences addiction and emotional healthThe future of holistic mental health and natural healingThis episode reminds us that healing isn't about finding a magic cure. It's about giving the body, mind, and spirit the tools they need to remember how to heal themselves. Mentioned in this episode KamboAddiction recoveryPostpartum depressionAntidepressantsBrain chemistryAmino acidsNeurotransmittersPeptidesBionutritionGrief and lossTrauma healingIntegrationSubscribe so you don't miss future conversations as we explore plant medicines, integration, spirituality, science, psychology, and everything that happens beyond the ceremony.

  4. Jul 15

    Episode 3: Kelly Lamb's Journey, Part 2 – Finding Purpose Through Kambo and Bufo

    Send us Fan Mail Can your darkest chapter become the very thing that leads you to your life's purpose? In Part 2 of Kelly's story, we pick up after her recovery from opioid addiction through Ibogaine and follow the path that eventually led to Tribal Detox, Kambo, Bufo, and the work she does today. This conversation explores what happens after healing begins. Recovery isn't the end of the journey. It's often where the real journey starts. Kelly shares what it was like rebuilding her life, rediscovering herself, falling in love, helping build Tribal Detox from the ground up, and eventually finding her calling as a Bufo facilitator. We also dive into how years of serving hundreds of people challenged many of the assumptions surrounding Bufo and ultimately led us to develop a more therapeutic, integration-focused approach to working with the medicine. In this episode we discuss: Life after Ibogaine and addiction recoveryReturning home and rebuilding a new identityDiscovering mushrooms and the wider world of plant medicinesMeeting Jason and the beginning of their relationshipBuilding Tribal Detox from the ground upLiving in Austin while growing a Kambo practiceStarting the Tribal Detox Kambo Practitioner SchoolBuilding a life around purpose instead of chasing successLife on the road during the pandemicHow Bufo unexpectedly entered Kelly's lifeTraining as a Bufo facilitatorThe challenges and responsibility of serving BufoWhy not everyone benefits from a full "blast off" experienceThe evolution of a therapeutic approach to BufoWhy integration matters just as much as the ceremony itselfThis episode is about trusting your path, even when it looks nothing like the one you originally planned. Sometimes the greatest transformations don't happen because life goes according to plan. They happen because life completely falls apart and gives you the opportunity to rebuild it with greater purpose. Mentioned in this episode KamboBufo (5-MeO-DMT)IbogainePsilocybin mushroomsIntegrationTribal DetoxChurch of the Amphibian ArtsSubscribe so you don't miss future conversations as we explore plant medicines, integration, spirituality, science, psychology, and everything that happens beyond the ceremony.

  5. Jul 15

    Episode 2: Kelly Lamb's Journey – From Addiction to Ibogaine, Bufo, and a New Life

    Send us Fan Mail How does a seven-time All-American, valedictorian, and CPA candidate become addicted to heroin and crack cocaine? In this deeply personal episode, Kelly shares her story for the first time. From growing up in the small mountain town of Creede, Colorado, to earning multiple college degrees and working at one of the world's largest accounting firms, nothing about Kelly's life suggested addiction would become part of her story. But addiction doesn't discriminate. Kelly opens up about the curiosity that led her down a dangerous path, the devastating reality of opioid addiction, and the desperation that eventually led her to discover Ibogaine, a West African plant medicine that changed the trajectory of her life. This conversation is raw, honest, and hopeful. It's a story about addiction, healing, courage, and ultimately finding purpose in the darkest chapter of life. In this episode we discuss: Kelly's upbringing in Creede, ColoradoBeing a seven-time NCAA All-American and graduating at the top of her classEarning degrees in finance, accounting, and taxationMoving to Miami and working for DeloitteWhy success on paper didn't bring fulfillmentHow a relationship exposed her to opioid addictionThe progression from curiosity to heroin addictionThe realities of heroin and crack cocaine addictionOpioid withdrawal and the physical and psychological grip of addictionWhy traditional treatment options didn't resonate with herDiscovering Ibogaine through relentless late-night researchHer experience at an Ibogaine clinic in MexicoHow Ibogaine helped her break free from opioid addictionThe beginning of her journey into plant medicineHow that experience eventually led her to Bufo, Tribal Detox, and the work she does todayThis episode isn't about glorifying addiction. It's about showing that addiction can affect anyone, regardless of intelligence, success, or background, and that healing is possible. If you or someone you love has been impacted by addiction, we hope Kelly's story offers both perspective and hope. Mentioned in this episode IbogaineBufo (5-MeO-DMT)KamboOpioid addictionAddiction recoveryPlant medicineIntegrationTribal DetoxComing Up Next In the next episode, we'll continue Kelly's journey as we explore what happened after Ibogaine, how she discovered Bufo, and how those experiences ultimately led to the creation of the Church of the Amphibian Arts and the work she does today. Subscribe so you don't miss future conversations as we explore plant medicines, integration, spirituality, science, psychology, and everything that happens beyond the ceremony.

  6. Jul 15

    Episode 1: Beyond the Ceremony – Why We Started This Podcast

    Send us Fan Mail What happens after the ceremony? That's the question that inspired this podcast. In our very first episode, we share the story behind Beyond the Ceremony, why we felt this conversation needed a home, and why we believe the real healing doesn't end when the medicine wears off. After losing our Instagram account without warning, we realized how easily conversations around plant and amphibian medicines can disappear from social media. We wanted a place where we could have honest, thoughtful, long form conversations without trying to squeeze complex topics into 60 second clips. In this episode we discuss: Why we created Beyond the CeremonyHow losing our Instagram accelerated the decision to launch the podcastThe difference between the ceremony and the integration that followsWhy healing isn't something a medicine does to you, but something you continue to cultivate afterwardThe philosophy behind Tribal Detox and our approach to working with Kambo and BufoHow Jason and Kelly met through the medicine worldKelly's journey from opioid addiction to Ibogaine and eventually BufoJason's path through Ayahuasca, Kambo, homelessness, and rebuilding his lifeThe unlikely beginning of Tribal Detox, from living in a minivan and DoorDashing to building an international practitioner communityHow training hundreds of practitioners and serving thousands of clients has shaped our understanding of these medicinesThis podcast isn't just about ceremonies. It's about what comes after. It's about integration, relationships, healing, purpose, spirituality, science, responsibility, and the lifelong process of becoming more fully human. Whether you're completely new to plant medicines, an experienced practitioner, or simply curious about consciousness and healing, we hope these conversations offer insight, perspective, and practical wisdom you can apply to your own life. Mentioned in this episode KamboBufo (5-MeO-DMT)IbogaineAyahuascaIntegrationTribal Detox Kambo Practitioner TrainingComing Up Next In the next episode, Kelly shares her remarkable journey from addiction and recovery through Ibogaine to becoming a Bufo facilitator and founding the Church of the Amphibian Arts. Subscribe so you don't miss future conversations as we explore plant medicines, integration, spirituality, science, psychology, and everything that happens beyond the ceremony.

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Beyond the Ceremony is a podcast about what happens before, during, and long after the ceremony ends. Hosted by Jason and Kelly Fellows of Tribal Detox, each episode explores the intersection of Kambo, Bufo, psychedelics, spirituality, personal growth, and the science of healing. Through honest conversations, interviews, and years of firsthand experience, we dive into the questions that don't always have simple answers. You'll hear discussions on consciousness, trauma, integration, plant and amphibian medicines, nervous system health, ancient traditions, modern research, and what it means to live a more authentic life. Whether you're completely new to this world or have spent years walking the path, Beyond the Ceremony offers thoughtful conversations grounded in curiosity, humility, and real-world experience. New episodes released regularly.