The Mess In Between

Jen Hansen & Chelsea Marie
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The Mess In Between is a heart-led podcast hosted by best friends Jen and Chelsea, exploring the messy middle of life—the space between who you’ve been and who you’re becoming. Through honest conversations about motherhood, womanhood, personal growth, spirituality, and holistic living, they share the real stories behind transformation: the doubt, setbacks, identity shifts, grief, and unexpected detours that shape us along the way. This is a space for women navigating life’s challenges while reconnecting with their authentic selves, embracing both the practical and the magical, and discovering that becoming who you are is rarely a straight path.

Episodes

  1. Oct 1

    Rejection Is My Protection - Why Getting Fired Felt Like Relief

    Rejection, Alignment, and the MatrixJen & Chelsea talk candidly about job rejection, burnout, intuition, and how “the Matrix” shows up in work, family life, and social conditioning. The episode blends practical career reality with spiritual interpretation, especially around alignment, boundaries, and listening to the body. Key topicsIn this episode: Jen shares that she has received seven rejection emails in two weeks and is processing the emotional hit while trying to stay grounded.They talk about how job searches changed after COVID, and are different for people trying to re-enter the workforce after time at home with kids.Jen explains that some of the jobs she applied for were only “because she had to apply,” not because they were truly aligned.The conversation focuses on what alignment feels like in a workplace, including clothing rules, authority dynamics, and the feeling of knowing a job is wrong before it becomes obvious.They discuss a mindset shift from “rejection is failure” to “rejection is my protection,” especially after a job termination that ultimately felt relieving.The episode expands into a broad discussion of “the Matrix” as social conditioning, including school, work, the American Dream, patriarchy, and the pressure to fit into rigid systems.They connect this with human design, astrology, psychic gifts, and the idea that intuition and body cues can point to better decisions than logic alone.They also touch on past life work, Akashic Records, and the belief that layers of healing must be peeled back over time.The episode ends by returning to practical reality: many people stay stuck not because they lack desire, but because they don’t know how to get to a different way of living.Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Personal Updates01:05 Navigating Job Rejections02:55 Reflections on Job Alignment and COVID Impact05:49 Seeking Work-Life Balance09:07 The Matrix: Society and Personal Alignment11:58 Exploring Hidden Truths and Health Concerns18:38 The Illusion of Food Safety19:30 Exploring Conspiracy Theories20:49 Questioning Reality and Beliefs21:31 Past Lives and Energetic Connections22:39 Unpacking Energy Work and Healing24:34 The Role of Psychic Abilities25:47 Astrology and Personal Purpose27:28 Understanding Human Design29:16 Navigating the Matrix of Life32:13 The American Dream vs. Reality34:05 Balancing Responsibilities and Self-Care36:24 Breaking Free from Comfort Zones

  2. Sep 10

    The hardest part of Launch Day was NOT what you'd expect!

    In this episode, Chelsea and Jen share their candid thoughts on launching their podcast, the importance of authenticity, and their personal growth journeys. They discuss the challenges of staying real, embracing messiness, and building community among women. Key  Topics Podcast launch and authenticity The importance of being real and messy Personal growth and healing journeys Building community among women Overcoming challenges of perfectionism and surface-level conversations Chapters 00:00 Introduction and New Approach to Podcasting 01:09 Playing Life Catch Up and Not Recording Everything 02:25 Launching Day Feelings and Next Steps 03:40 Authenticity and Not Repeating the Script 04:09 Sharing Personal Stories and Relatability 06:02 Building a Foundation and Future Episodes 09:02 Balancing Structure and Authentic Conversation 11:18 Witnessing Each Other’s Growth and Support 13:14 Using Human Design and Astrology for Self-Understanding 16:06 Reflections on Past Experiences and Red Flags 18:22 Gratitude and Recognizing Progress 21:10 Healing, Moving Forward, and Not Living in the Past 23:04 Addressing Domestic Violence and Personal Stories 26:21 Future Topics and Open Invitation for Guests 28:01 Wrapping Up and Next Steps for the Podcast For all the ways to follow or get in touch with us CLICK HERE!

  3. Aug 31

    The Legal Mumbo

    Legal Disclaimer OpeningThis short intro is a comedic legal disclaimer read by Chelsea and Jen. It sets the tone for the episode by making clear that the discussion is for educational and informational purposes only, not professional advice. The content is brief, informal, and focused entirely on the disclaimer rather than on substantive episode topics.Key topics Chelsea and Jen read a legal disclaimer aloudThe content is framed as educational and informational onlyThey state it is not legal, medical, or financial adviceThey emphasize that the views shared are personal opinions and experiencesThe segment ends with a light, joking acknowledgement that the legal part is finishedTimestamps 00:00- Comedic legal disclaimer and “not professional advice” notice 00:08- Clarifying the content is only opinion and experience 00:36- Closing the disclaimer and moving on

  4. Jul 21

    Meet Jen & Chelsea

    Overview: Exploring Personal Growth, Astrology, and DIY Living In this episode, Jen & Chelsea introduce themselves and share their journey of self-discovery through astrology, human design, and practical life experiences. They discuss the messiness of life, personal growth & how embracing authenticity leads to transformation. Key Topics: Origins of their friendship through MLM & shared interestHuman design, gene keys & astrologyNavigating life's challenges as a stay-at-home mom & single working momEmbracing the messiness of life and the importance of community and supportConspiracy theories, energetic insights, and the power of trusting your body’s wisdomThe value of authenticity over perfection in personal and professional development00:00 - Introduction and a humorous restart of the episode 01:30 - How MLM brought Jen and Chelsea together 03:20 - Personal astrology details and human design insights 05:00 - The influence of astrology and gene keys on relationships 07:00 - Staying in alignment & working with personal energy systems 09:00 - Life updates: parenting, home renovation, and DIY projects 12:00 - The messy journey of life, work, & spiritual exploration 14:00 - Channeling, spiritual insights, and energetic healing experiences 16:00 - Creating community & offering support through shared experiences 18:00 - The importance of trusting your body's responses & inner wisdom 20:00 - Clean living, gardening & the role of personal vices 22:00 - Funny hacks about chickens, fungi, and life hacks related to health 24:00 - Dreaming of a shared compound, homesteading & future visions 25:30 - The reality of life’s messiness & embracing authenticity 26:00 - Conspiracy theories, organ donation, & energetic beliefs 27:00 - Wrap-up and encouragement to connect & participate Affiliate Disclosure Some of the links shared in these show notes are affiliate links. This means that if you choose to make a purchase through them, we may earn a small commission at no additional cost to you. We only recommend products, services, and resources that we genuinely use, trust, or believe will bring value to our audience. Your support helps us continue creating and sharing The Mess in Between. Thank you for being here. Gene Keys Book by Richard RuddChatGPT Plugin for Human Design & Business from Karla Maree Connect with The Mess In Between Follow the show on Instagram Follow the show on TikTok the.mess.in.between@gmail.comConnect with Jen Hansen: Jens Instagram Jens TikTok Connect with Chelsea: Chelseas Instagram Feel free to send feedback, questions, or topic requests. We’re excited to grow this community with your input!

  • 4 Episodes

About

The Mess In Between is a heart-led podcast hosted by best friends Jen and Chelsea, exploring the messy middle of life—the space between who you’ve been and who you’re becoming. Through honest conversations about motherhood, womanhood, personal growth, spirituality, and holistic living, they share the real stories behind transformation: the doubt, setbacks, identity shifts, grief, and unexpected detours that shape us along the way. This is a space for women navigating life’s challenges while reconnecting with their authentic selves, embracing both the practical and the magical, and discovering that becoming who you are is rarely a straight path.

Information

  • Creator
    Jen Hansen & Chelsea Marie
  • Years Active
    2026
  • Episodes
    4
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Copyright
    © 2026 Jen Hansen & Chelsea Marie
  • Show Website
    The Mess In Between