Different Points Podcast

Roy Coughlan & Catherine Llewellyn at Podfather Network
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A podcast in short bursts. Each episode poses one question, and two people answer it from where they actually stand. Roy Coughlan (The Podfather) and Catherine Llewellyn (Beingspace.world) sit on different sides of most things — life experience, worldview, the way they arrive at an answer. Different Points isn't about reaching agreement. It's about hearing two honest responses to the same question, side by side, in under 10 minutes. No script, no debate to win. Just one question, two points of view, and whatever truth sits between them. New episodes drop Monday through Friday. Pick a question, press play, and see where you land.

  1. 8h ago

    #56 The Courage to Be Seen

    In this episode, Catherine and Roy ask what it means to be seen, and why it takes courage. Roy admits he never wanted to be seen. He ran big jobs in Ireland and was strong at negotiating and leading teams, but he was the one at the back of the class and the back of the meeting. He explains what changed when he wanted to get his message out and make the world a better place: nobody follows you if you are hiding at the back. He also talks about not letting attacks come in. Catherine describes growing up wanting to be expressive while being vulnerable to being mocked, and how she became very visible at school as a way to get through it. She says her visibility online, in her coaching business, comes down to the goal. If the goal is to enjoy life, be truthful and put out something helpful, the fear of being seen reduces. If the goal is to impress and win approval, that is where fear and exhaustion come in. They close by asking listeners what being seen means to them, what their goal is, and what matters most to them about it. Timestamps 0:02 — Welcome & today’s question: what does it mean to be seen? 0:26 — Roy: the guy at the back, and why he chose to stand out 1:31 — Catherine: being mocked as a child, visibility online, and why the goal matters 5:00 — Sign-off Roy Coughlan · The Podfather Network Website: https://roycoughlan.com/ Virtual Assistants: https://va.world/ Private Networking Group: Learn about a Private Networking Group in 50 US States & 50 Countries with 700+ Members https://connectedleaders.academy Brain Upgrade: https://brainupgrade.org/ The Authority Alliance: A Foundation of Experts — community for entrepreneurs, coaches, and thought leaders to connect, collaborate, and grow their authority together: https://theauthorityalliance.com/ EMF Protection: https://protectfromemf.org/ Health & Wellness: https://podfather.thefrequencyawakening.com/ Make the most of your calling. Book an Exploratory Call with Catherine: https://beingspace.world/#explore 🤝 Join Catherine’s Being Space Community ✦ Website: https://beingspace.world ✦ Podcast: https://truthandtranscendence.com ✦ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/catherinellewellynbeingspace/ ✦ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BEINGSPACEcatherinellewellyn ✦ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beingspace.world/ ✦ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BeingSpaceWorld #DifferentPoints #CourageToBeSeen #Visibility #Authenticity #Podcast #BeingSpace #CatherineLlewellyn #RoyCoughlan

  2. 1d ago

    #55 When Enough Is Enough

    In this episode, Roy and Catherine ask a simple question: how do you know when enough is enough? Catherine says most of the time we already know, whether it is time to leave a party, end a relationship, take a break from work or stop recording. She explains how we override that sense with alcohol, tiredness, too much sugar or too much coffee, and why it is worth protecting and rebuilding if you have lost touch with it. Roy shares how he and Catherine settled on recording in batches of seven, with a backlog so the show always goes out, even when someone is away or ill. He talks about cooking only what he and his son will eat so nobody has to leave food on the plate, and about why people drink past the point of enough, which he sees as escapism and a way of covering pain. They close by asking listeners what comes to mind when enough is enough. Timestamps 0:02 — Welcome & today’s question: when is enough is enough? 0:17 — Catherine: knowing in ourselves when enough is enough, and what makes us override it 3:18 — Roy: batches of seven episodes, portion sizes, and drinking as escapism 5:22 — Closing thoughts and sign-off Roy Coughlan · The Podfather Network Website: https://roycoughlan.com/ Virtual Assistants: https://va.world/ Private Networking Group: Learn about a Private Networking Group in 50 US States & 50 Countries with 700+ Members https://connectedleaders.academy Brain Upgrade: https://brainupgrade.org/ The Authority Alliance: A Foundation of Experts — community for entrepreneurs, coaches, and thought leaders to connect, collaborate, and grow their authority together: https://theauthorityalliance.com/ EMF Protection: https://protectfromemf.org/ Health & Wellness: https://podfather.thefrequencyawakening.com/ Make the most of your calling. Book an Exploratory Call with Catherine: https://beingspace.world/#explore 🤝 Join Catherine’s Being Space Community ✦ Website: https://beingspace.world ✦ Podcast: https://truthandtranscendence.com ✦ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/catherinellewellynbeingspace/ ✦ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BEINGSPACEcatherinellewellyn ✦ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beingspace.world/ ✦ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BeingSpaceWorld #DifferentPoints #WhenEnoughIsEnough #KnowYourLimits #Intuition #Podcast #BeingSpace #CatherineLlewellyn #RoyCoughlan

  3. 2d ago

    #54 What Are You Pretending Not to Know

    In this episode, Roy and Catherine take on a slightly odd topic: what are you pretending not to know, and what do you really know? Roy starts with something he has noticed in people’s emotions. Some people, women first and then men too, laugh in a conversation when nothing is funny, to get you to laugh and be liked. He knows it, never says it to them, and has found that people who do it are often not as straight as they come across. Catherine says she has been in those moments too, and she is not good at pretending, so people see a strange look on her face. For her, pretending not to know often means carrying on with something she knows is a waste of energy so she can stay busy and avoid facing that she doesn’t know what to do next. She gives an example from years ago, when she did executive coaching for large corporate organisations. She loved it and her identity was tied up with it, but she knew it was time to stop and pretended she didn’t, because she had no idea what she would do next. Her experience is that life is not impressed when she pretends not to know something and keeps presenting her with the truth, so she no longer tries. Roy adds that living in Poland, he sometimes pretends not to understand Polish, to see what people say when they think he can’t follow. Catherine shares how her father did the same in Italy, where he worked as a civil engineer during the war. A man criticised his skiing at length in front of him, and at the bottom of the slope her father thanked him for the feedback in fluent Italian and said he could have told him himself. She closes by inviting listeners to reflect on what they are pretending not to know and to send in their insights. Timestamps 0:02 - Welcome and today’s topic: what are you pretending not to know 0:28 - Roy: fake laughter and reading people’s emotions 1:14 - Catherine: wasting energy, her executive coaching years and life insisting on the truth 3:59 - Roy: pretending not to understand Polish 4:19 - Catherine: her father’s story in Italy and closing thoughts Roy Coughlan · The Podfather Network Website: https://roycoughlan.com/ Virtual Assistants: https://va.world/ Private Networking Group: Learn about a Private Networking Group in 50 US States & 50 Countries with 700+ Members https://connectedleaders.academy Brain Upgrade: https://brainupgrade.org/ The Authority Alliance: A Foundation of Experts — community for entrepreneurs, coaches, and thought leaders to connect, collaborate, and grow their authority together: https://theauthorityalliance.com/ EMF Protection: https://protectfromemf.org/ Health & Wellness: https://podfather.thefrequencyawakening.com/ Make the most of your calling. Book an Exploratory Call with Catherine: https://beingspace.world/#explore 🤝 Join Catherine’s Being Space Community ✦ Website: https://beingspace.world ✦ Podcast: https://truthandtranscendence.com ✦ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/catherinellewellynbeingspace/ ✦ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BEINGSPACEcatherinellewellyn ✦ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beingspace.world/ ✦ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BeingSpaceWorld #DifferentPoints #WhatDoYouReallyKnow #SelfAwareness #Podcast #BeingSpace #CatherineLlewellyn #RoyCoughlan

  4. 3d ago

    #53 The Freedom to Change Your Mind

    In this episode, Roy and Catherine ask whether you can change your mind. Catherine can, but not when someone is trying to force her, because it’s her mind. She also admits she can get stuck, and links it to the sunk investment fallacy: the more you have put into something, the harder it is to let go, whether it’s an offering nobody wants despite years and money spent on marketing, or a 12-year relationship that has run its course. Her attachment is tied to what she has invested, but she points out that having invested a lot doesn’t mean letting go is wrong, and that it is wasting good money after bad to keep pouring more in. She warns that some influencers and business growth services will simply encourage people to keep spending on a business that will never work, while others will honestly tell you whether it’s worth the investment. Roy shares how this very show came about. Catherine sent him a voice message suggesting a podcast together, and his first reaction was that he had too much on his plate. Within minutes he changed his mind and suggested doing short episodes in batches, and that became Different Points. He says he has always been willing to change direction in business too, including when a partner doesn’t bring their A game, even after investing a lot of money, because the short-term pain is usually better in the long term. His advice is to use your intuition, your gut and your heart as well as your head, since the head alone can lead to the wrong decisions. Catherine closes with a quote from Timothy Leary: you’re only as young as the last time you changed your mind. Roy asks listeners when they last changed their mind, noting that some people stick to a decision even when presented with facts. Timestamps 0:03 - Welcome and today’s question: the freedom to change your mind 0:18 - Catherine: sunk investment, attachment and knowing when to let go 3:01 - Roy: how Different Points started and changing direction in business 4:41 - Catherine: the Timothy Leary quote 4:59 - Closing thoughts and sign-off Roy Coughlan · The Podfather Network Website: https://roycoughlan.com/ Virtual Assistants: https://va.world/ Private Networking Group: Learn about a Private Networking Group in 50 US States & 50 Countries with 700+ Members https://connectedleaders.academy Brain Upgrade: https://brainupgrade.org/ The Authority Alliance: A Foundation of Experts — community for entrepreneurs, coaches, and thought leaders to connect, collaborate, and grow their authority together: https://theauthorityalliance.com/ EMF Protection: https://protectfromemf.org/ Health & Wellness: https://podfather.thefrequencyawakening.com/ Make the most of your calling. Book an Exploratory Call with Catherine: https://beingspace.world/#explore 🤝 Join Catherine’s Being Space Community ✦ Website: https://beingspace.world ✦ Podcast: https://truthandtranscendence.com ✦ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/catherinellewellynbeingspace/ ✦ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BEINGSPACEcatherinellewellyn ✦ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beingspace.world/ ✦ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BeingSpaceWorld #DifferentPoints #ChangeYourMind #SunkCost #Podcast #BeingSpace #CatherineLlewellyn #RoyCoughlan

  5. 4d ago

    #52 When to Push and When Not to Push

    In this episode, Roy and Catherine answer a listener request from Anthony Semeroff, a three-time guest on Catherine’s other show, who asked when to push and when not to push. Roy takes it as a question about pushing himself. He has goals in his business and pushes towards them, but he has learned to notice when the battery is going down and not fight through it. He gives last week as an example: Thursday was incredible and he got a huge amount done, then on Friday he was at 20 percent, so he didn’t push and simply accepted it. Catherine says she has a tendency to overpush until she collapses, and she is practising not doing that. For her the key is whether she is pushing for something or against something. If she pushes when she shouldn’t, she is fighting her own energy and intuition, and that is when it doesn’t work. On a project she pushes when there is traction and momentum, but when everything is failing it’s the time to analyse why, decide whether to stop or revive it, and push again once it gains traction. She also applies this to coaching: you don’t push someone unless they have contracted with you to do so, in a fully informed way, and you don’t keep pushing after the push they asked for. She wants no one to push her unless she has asked, and says the same applies in personal and work relationships, and for coaches and therapists. She closes by inviting listeners to notice what they are pushing today, whether it feels constructive or like fighting something, and, without pushing, to tell people about the show. Timestamps 0:02 - Welcome and today’s question from Anthony Semeroff: when to push and when not to push 0:49 - Roy: pushing yourself, watching your energy and accepting low days 1:49 - Catherine: pushing for vs against, projects with traction and pushing in coaching 5:54 - Sign-off Roy Coughlan · The Podfather Network Website: https://roycoughlan.com/ Virtual Assistants: https://va.world/ Private Networking Group: Learn about a Private Networking Group in 50 US States & 50 Countries with 700+ Members https://connectedleaders.academy Brain Upgrade: https://brainupgrade.org/ The Authority Alliance: A Foundation of Experts — community for entrepreneurs, coaches, and thought leaders to connect, collaborate, and grow their authority together: https://theauthorityalliance.com/ EMF Protection: https://protectfromemf.org/ Health & Wellness: https://podfather.thefrequencyawakening.com/ Make the most of your calling. Book an Exploratory Call with Catherine: https://beingspace.world/#explore 🤝 Join Catherine’s Being Space Community ✦ Website: https://beingspace.world ✦ Podcast: https://truthandtranscendence.com ✦ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/catherinellewellynbeingspace/ ✦ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BEINGSPACEcatherinellewellyn ✦ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beingspace.world/ ✦ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BeingSpaceWorld #DifferentPoints #WhenToPush #Energy #Coaching #Podcast #BeingSpace #CatherineLlewellyn #RoyCoughlan The transcript spells the listener’s name “Semeroff” and I couldn’t check it, so confirm the spelling before posting.

  6. 5d ago

    #51 One Small Step Today

    In this episode, Roy and Catherine ask what one small step you will take today. Catherine says she takes lots of small steps, but the one that matters right now is part of getting back into a good rhythm between work, relaxation, looking after her home, time with friends and her health. Today she is trying out a new version of that rhythm, and she started it by getting up at six, well before usual. Being ahead of the day makes it easier to fit in the small jobs, like the dishwasher and laundry, around her work and keep a flow going. Roy says that with so many businesses and so many balls in the air, he can feel overwhelmed by everything that looks important. His step today was to pick the big task first, the “eat the frog” approach, waking up at five to do it, and not adding more on top. He plans to focus on one or two money-making priorities at a time for the week, since hopping between three or four means none of them get finished and they just stay on the list. For him, the small step is the one that leads to the big steps. Timestamps 0:02 - Welcome and today’s question: one small step today 0:25 - Catherine: getting up at six and trying a new daily rhythm 2:16 - Roy: eating the frog and focusing on one priority at a time 3:28 - Closing thoughts and sign-off Roy Coughlan · The Podfather Network Website: https://roycoughlan.com/ Virtual Assistants: https://va.world/ Private Networking Group: Learn about a Private Networking Group in 50 US States & 50 Countries with 700+ Members https://connectedleaders.academy Brain Upgrade: https://brainupgrade.org/ The Authority Alliance: A Foundation of Experts — community for entrepreneurs, coaches, and thought leaders to connect, collaborate, and grow their authority together: https://theauthorityalliance.com/ EMF Protection: https://protectfromemf.org/ Health & Wellness: https://podfather.thefrequencyawakening.com/ Make the most of your calling. Book an Exploratory Call with Catherine: https://beingspace.world/#explore 🤝 Join Catherine’s Being Space Community ✦ Website: https://beingspace.world ✦ Podcast: https://truthandtranscendence.com ✦ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/catherinellewellynbeingspace/ ✦ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BEINGSPACEcatherinellewellyn ✦ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beingspace.world/ ✦ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BeingSpaceWorld #DifferentPoints #OneSmallStep #Focus #Podcast #BeingSpace #CatherineLlewellyn #RoyCoughlan

  7. 6d ago

    #50 What Does a Good Life Mean

    In this episode, Roy and Catherine reach their 50th episode and ask what a good life means. Roy thanks listeners for coming back and says the show is doing well in the charts and downloads. For him, a good life is about being present, not about owning a beautiful house or a fancy car that never breaks down, a point he makes after his own car broke down at the weekend. It is the people you surround yourself with, being close to family and loved ones, and enjoying and nourishing yourself with good food, not junk and energy drinks. Catherine says there isn’t one good life for everybody. Some of her friends define it as skiing every year, homes in London, the country and abroad, several cars, private schools and staff, and for them that is a good life, until they realise it has become a burden to manage and no longer fits. She shares a recent epiphany: she had been working very hard towards something, realised she didn’t actually want it, let it go, and her whole life changed from a drudge to something beautiful, because her life was already good in the way she wanted it. Roy adds that he loves cooking and putting love into food for the people he feeds, while a friend who eats out or has food made for him is missing something that is part of Roy’s good life. Catherine agrees, saying she would often rather eat her own cooking at home than go out for a meal. She closes by asking what a good life is for you, whether you are living it, and if not, what adjustments, even negotiations with the people in your life, you could make. Timestamps 0:02 - Welcome and today’s question: what is a good life 0:29 - Roy: reaching episode 50 and what a good life means to him 1:41 - Catherine: everyone’s good life is different, and letting go of what she didn’t want 4:07 - Roy: cooking and nourishing the soul 4:40 - Closing thoughts and sign-off Roy Coughlan · The Podfather Network Website: https://roycoughlan.com/ Virtual Assistants: https://va.world/ Private Networking Group: Learn about a Private Networking Group in 50 US States & 50 Countries with 700+ Members https://connectedleaders.academy Brain Upgrade: https://brainupgrade.org/ The Authority Alliance: A Foundation of Experts — community for entrepreneurs, coaches, and thought leaders to connect, collaborate, and grow their authority together: https://theauthorityalliance.com/ EMF Protection: https://protectfromemf.org/ Health & Wellness: https://podfather.thefrequencyawakening.com/ Make the most of your calling. Book an Exploratory Call with Catherine: https://beingspace.world/#explore 🤝 Join Catherine’s Being Space Community ✦ Website: https://beingspace.world ✦ Podcast: https://truthandtranscendence.com ✦ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/catherinellewellynbeingspace/ ✦ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BEINGSPACEcatherinellewellyn ✦ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beingspace.world/ ✦ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BeingSpaceWorld #DifferentPoints #GoodLife #Episode50 #Podcast #BeingSpace #CatherineLlewellyn #RoyCoughlan

  8. Oct 28

    #49 A Question to End Each Day

    In this episode, Roy and Catherine ask what question ends your day. Catherine has two. The practical one is what she is doing tomorrow, which she checks or sets so she knows where her focus will go. The one she asks while winding down is how she feels about her day and her life, and whether things feel right. If something doesn’t, she uses a technique she was taught years ago called dream programming. She relaxes in bed, reflects briefly, then drops a request into her subconscious, such as asking it to resolve this overnight or give her clarity for the morning, and lets it go. She often wakes up with clarity, or a sense that something has resolved itself on a deeper level during the night. Roy says he does something similar when he wants an answer, but rarely, since he is usually crashing at the end of the day. He used to write his to-do list the night before and now sometimes writes it that morning, waking up naturally early and getting things done. He sometimes reflects on whether he enjoyed his day, but most of his thinking and strategising about his businesses happens while out on a walk, not at a set time at night. Catherine adds that with clients working on a gradual shift, they sometimes agree a specific end-of-day question tied to that project, so they notice subtle changes day to day, and she has made that a discipline for herself when working on something for a period of time. Timestamps 0:02 - Welcome and today’s question: a question to end each day 0:20 - Catherine: what am I doing tomorrow, how do I feel about my day, and dream programming 2:26 - Roy: to-do lists, reflecting on his day and thinking on walks 3:29 - Catherine: project-specific questions with clients 4:25 - Closing thoughts and sign-off Roy Coughlan · The Podfather Network Website: https://roycoughlan.com/ Virtual Assistants: https://va.world/ Private Networking Group: Learn about a Private Networking Group in 50 US States & 50 Countries with 700+ Members https://connectedleaders.academy Brain Upgrade: https://brainupgrade.org/ The Authority Alliance: A Foundation of Experts — community for entrepreneurs, coaches, and thought leaders to connect, collaborate, and grow their authority together: https://theauthorityalliance.com/ EMF Protection: https://protectfromemf.org/ Health & Wellness: https://podfather.thefrequencyawakening.com/ Make the most of your calling. Book an Exploratory Call with Catherine: https://beingspace.world/#explore 🤝 Join Catherine’s Being Space Community ✦ Website: https://beingspace.world ✦ Podcast: https://truthandtranscendence.com ✦ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/catherinellewellynbeingspace/ ✦ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BEINGSPACEcatherinellewellyn ✦ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beingspace.world/ ✦ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BeingSpaceWorld #DifferentPoints #EndOfDayQuestion #DreamProgramming #Podcast #BeingSpace #CatherineLlewellyn #RoyCoughlan

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A podcast in short bursts. Each episode poses one question, and two people answer it from where they actually stand. Roy Coughlan (The Podfather) and Catherine Llewellyn (Beingspace.world) sit on different sides of most things — life experience, worldview, the way they arrive at an answer. Different Points isn't about reaching agreement. It's about hearing two honest responses to the same question, side by side, in under 10 minutes. No script, no debate to win. Just one question, two points of view, and whatever truth sits between them. New episodes drop Monday through Friday. Pick a question, press play, and see where you land.

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  • Creator
    Roy Coughlan & Catherine Llewellyn at Podfather Network
  • Years Active
    2026
  • Episodes
    56
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    Clean
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