David Belle, macro trader and founder of FINK, has written a report on Britain's economy and its debt. His diagnosis: Westminster has set the wrong incentives, and the blame then lands on pensioners, the rich or people on universal credit. He joins Damian Pudner, Director of the Great British Think Tank, to work through it. They cover the Treasury's indemnity on the Bank of England's QT losses, £45m to make one station step-free, the M4 relief road, taxing land while cutting capital gains tax to 5%, the universal credit taper and Japanification. Damian brings new research on migration and wages outside London, and argues for entrepreneurs on the Monetary Policy Committee and an end to inheritance tax. Chapters0:00 Pints & Policy0:08 David's report: Britain's problem is incentives1:53 Skin in the game: a long-dated gilt4:43 America's long end v Britain's5:39 The Treasury insures the Bank's bond losses7:42 The QT pause and the "moron premium"8:50 Interest on reserves: what Reform miss10:27 Energy and structural inflation12:49 Growth first: £45m for a station14:19 M4 relief road and the Thames crossing16:01 Devolution: moving the problem out of London?17:31 Georgism: tax land, not enterprise19:23 Land v property, and stamp duty20:47 Tax the land, cut capital gains to 5%21:50 Which party would do it?24:03 Anti-business, anti-growth25:27 GDP per head and migration25:56 Wages After the Wave28:33 Universal credit: an incentive not to work30:42 Does it take a bond crisis?31:35 Japanification32:45 Empty high streets34:00 The fourth way: fiscal policy and the OBR35:27 Debt is fine if it buys growth36:53 More entrepreneurs on the MPC37:32 Inheritance tax is morally wrong39:43 Pay MPs for performance?41:29 Wrap The numbers- Universal credit: above the work allowance, the taper withdraws 55p of universal credit for every extra £1 of take-home pay (DWP rates, 2026-27).- Bank of England, 17 September 2026: gilt sales paused until April 2027; gilts maturing in 2049 or later stay on the balance sheet; £146bn of 2035-49 gilts to be sold at about £20bn a year. Losses on the Asset Purchase Facility are indemnified by HM Treasury.- The £45m step-free scheme is at Peckham Rye station, for which Energy Secretary Miatta Fahnbulleh launched a petition on 6 October 2026 (City AM). David says Hackney on air.- M4 relief road: the Welsh Government spent £135.7m on the scheme before it was scrapped in 2019. Damian says £128m on air.- Cambridge Circus Research, "Wages After the Wave" (Hubert Kucharski, October 2026, foreword by Damian Pudner): payrolled jobs in England rose by 2.8m between 2015 and 2025, and 2.3m of them (82%) went to non-UK nationals. The report finds the rise in migrant employment held down pay for British workers outside London.- Industrial energy: David says French industry pays 80% less. The government's own 2026 estimate for supported energy-intensive firms is £86/MWh in the UK against £69/MWh in France, so UK firms pay about a quarter more.- Payrolled employees: 30.2m in August 2026 (early estimate), down 145,000 on the year (ONS).- The Office for Budget Responsibility was set up in 2010. An MP's basic salary is over £90,000.- Other figures in conversation are the speakers' own. Nothing in this episode is investment advice. Pints & Policy talks to guests from across politics and policy. Their views are their own. Guest: David Belle, macro trader and founder of FINK, former UK Growth Director at TradingView (X: @Fink_Money · YouTube: @DavidBelleFink · fink.money)Host: Damian Pudner, Director of the Great British Think Tank (X: @DamianPudner) Great British Think Tank. Data. Not vibes.gbtt.info · X: @GreatBritishTT