Deeply Functional

Todd Schmenk
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Welcome to Deeply Functional, a podcast for clinicians who want to move beyond protocols and dive into the process. Hosted by Todd Schmenk, clinician, ACT Peer Reviewed Trainer and supervisor, the show explores psychological flexibility through Relational Frame Theory, Functional Contextualism, and Acceptance and Commitment Therapy. Short episodes sharpen case conceptualization and clinical practice. The companion series, In Conversation, brings clinicians together to explore their work, ideas, and lessons learned along the way. Less theory for theory's sake. More real world application.

  1. 2d ago

    Have We Made ACT Too Complicated? A conversation on FACT with Kirk Strosahl and Patricia Robinson

    What happens to ACT when you have fifteen minutes with someone and may never see them again? In this episode of Deeply Functional, Todd Schmenk talks with Kirk Strosahl and Patricia Robinson about the development of Focused Acceptance and Commitment Therapy, better known as FACT. They explore the clinical problems that gave rise to FACT and what working in brief, integrated healthcare settings revealed about ACT itself. The conversation moves beyond the idea that FACT is simply a shortened version of ACT. Kirk and Patti examine what remains essential when almost everything else has to go: real-time functional analysis, identifying the greatest point of leverage, and helping someone take a meaningful step before the encounter ends. They also discuss what experienced ACT clinicians may need to unlearn, whether ACT has become more complicated than it needs to be, and what clinicians must understand before they can improvise with confidence. This is a conversation about FACT, but it is also a deeper look at clinical fluency: how to listen for function, respond to what is happening now, and use ACT without becoming confined by its procedures. GET THEIR NEW BOOK HERE: Brief Interventions for Radical Change - 2nd Edition  https://behavioralconsultationandprimarycare.onlinepresskit247.com/http://Mtnviewconsultlng.comhttp://PatriciaRobinsonPhD.comhttp://BehavioralIntegrationandPrimaryCare.comhttp://SpeaktoyourDoctor.comhttp://BasicsofBehaviorChangeinPrimaryCare.com

    Have We Made ACT Too Complicated? A conversation on FACT with Kirk Strosahl and Patricia Robinson

  2. Oct 3

    When the Client Leaves the Room Without Moving: Reading Disconnection From the Present Moment

    What happens when a client remains physically present while becoming increasingly disconnected from their immediate experience? In this episode of Deeply Functional, Todd Schmenk explores loss of present moment contact and the subtle ways clients leave the room without moving. Rumination, prediction, analysis, and overexplaining may sound thoughtful or productive. Functionally, however, they can help clients avoid direct contact with emotion, sensation, vulnerability, and uncertainty. You’ll explore: How disconnection from the present moment sounds and feels in sessionWhy intellectualizing and storytelling can function as protectionHow present moment awareness differs from meditation or relaxationA simple clinical invitation that helps clients return to their bodies and immediate experience Clinician takeaway: When the client drifts elsewhere, invite them back into contact with what is happening here. Change cannot occur in memory, prediction, or theory. It becomes possible through awareness, embodiment, and engagement in this moment. For further learning, articles, training, and connection with the contextual behavioral community, visit RIACT.org.

  3. Sep 26

    How Metaphors Rewire Emotional Pain

    Why can a single word, thought, or memory trigger intense emotional or physical distress, even when no direct threat is present? This episode breaks down core principles from Relational Frame Theory (RFT) and Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT) into accessible, everyday language to explain how human language shapes psychological suffering. Today the focus is on the Transformation of Stimulus Function. Rather than treating painful thoughts as fixed facts, learn how clinicians leverage the power of metaphor to alter our relationship with distress, quiet rigid thought loops, and create room for meaningful action. Key Highlights & Topics Covered How Language Shapes Suffering: Learn why human beings experience emotional distress purely through symbolic language, words, and mental associations—and why fighting or suppressing these thoughts often makes them stronger.Demystifying "Transformation of Stimulus Function": We simplify this foundational behavioral concept for, explaining how the psychological impact or meaning of a stimulus (a thought, memory, or physical feeling) can shift when placed in a new context.Shifting Rigid Self-Narratives: Discover how automatic self-labels like "I am broken" lock us into emotional suffering through cognitive fusion, and how shifting to an observing perspective (self-as-context) restores choice and flexibility.Metaphors in Clinical Practice: See how counselors use vivid relational metaphors—such as carrying a heavy backpack, navigating Chinese handcuffs, or observing passengers on a bus—to transform heavy emotional burdens into manageable, workable experiences PLEASE NOTE: This episode is AI generated and reviewed by the team before its release.

    How Metaphors Rewire Emotional Pain

  4. Sep 15

    Frame by Frame: Seeing Function, Context, and Flexibility in ACT

    In this episode of Deeply Functional: In Conversation, Todd Schmenk is joined by Siri Ming, Julia Fiebig, and Evelyn Gould to explore the thinking behind Frame by Frame, their approach to helping clinicians understand what is happening functionally in the therapy room. The conversation begins with a familiar problem: ACT is often taught and practiced as a curriculum, protocol, or collection of exercises. The group considers what changes when clinicians move beyond choosing techniques and begin attending more carefully to behavior, context, learning history, and the function of what is unfolding from moment to moment. Together, they discuss how Relational Frame Theory and functional analysis can inform clinical decisions without pulling therapists away from the human interaction in front of them. They explore the value of “zooming in” on the immediate exchange while also “zooming out” to consider developmental, relational, group, and systemic influences on behavior. The discussion also examines psychological flexibility across different stages of life, the development of selfing through language, and the therapist’s own participation in the clinical process. Throughout the episode, Frame by Frame offers a way of slowing the work down enough to see more clearly, conceptualize more coherently, and respond with greater flexibility. This conversation will be especially useful for clinicians, supervisors, and trainers interested in moving beyond procedural ACT toward a more contextual, behaviorally grounded, and responsive approach to clinical practice. Learn More About Constellations here Frame-by-Frame Sign Up Information here Join the Deeply Functional Community at RIACT Get the broader picture with the Association of Contextual Behavioral Science Other training at the Institute of Better Health

    Frame by Frame: Seeing Function, Context, and Flexibility in ACT

  5. Sep 12

    A Functional Look at Couples Therapy : A Conversation with Lou Lasprugato

    What are we really reaching for when we criticize, withdraw, demand reassurance, or shut down with out partners? In this episode of Deeply Functional, Todd Schmenk talks with Lou Lasprugato about yearnings: the deep, recurring experiences people seek within their closest relationships. Together, they explore how yearnings differ from needs and values, why they make us vulnerable, and how they can become hidden beneath difficult patterns of interaction. Todd and Lou also examine how a functional assessment can help therapists look beyond the couple’s observable behavior and identify what each person is trying to move toward. When criticism is understood as a longing for connection, or withdrawal as protection from rejection, new possibilities begin to emerge. This conversation offers therapists a practical and compassionate way to understand conflict by asking a deeper question: What is each person yearning to experience, and what happens when that yearning feels threatened? Lou Lasprugato Psychotherapy & Training PLLCCA and VA licensed MFTPeer-Reviewed ACT TrainerACBS FellowPast ACBS Training Committee Chair asprugatomft@gmail.com WebsiteTraining infoConsultation info YouTube Channel Insight Timer Profile

    A Functional Look at Couples Therapy : A Conversation with Lou Lasprugato

  6. Sep 5

    When Identity Becomes a Prison: Reading the Conceptualized Self

    We all carry stories about who we are: I’m anxious. I’m broken. I’m the responsible one. I’m someone who always fails. These stories can help organize our experience, but they can also become prisons when we begin treating them as fixed truths rather than ways of making sense of ourselves. In this installment of Deeply Functional, we explore the conceptualized self through the lenses of functional contextualism and Relational Frame Theory. We look at how identity stories are built, how they shape behavior, and how clinicians can help clients loosen their grip without arguing with the story or replacing it with a more positive one. The goal is not to discover the client’s “true” identity, but to create enough flexibility for them to act beyond the limits of who they have learned to believe they are.

  7. Aug 29 ·  Bonus

    FLEX LAB | Defusion, Modeling, and the Behavior of the Therapist

    In this FLEX LAB conversation, we work through a clinical vignette to examine what the clinician did, why those choices made sense, and how a functional understanding of the case shaped what happened next. Rather than searching for the “right” ACT intervention, the discussion focuses on tracking function, noticing opportunities for movement, and responding flexibly to what is happening in the room. The conversation also builds on questions and ideas raised in the online FLEX LAB community at RIACT.org, bringing several clinician perspectives into the discussion. Together, we explore how case conceptualization becomes a practical, collaborative process—one that helps us think more clearly while remaining responsive to the person in front of us. Find out more to join us monthly here - FLEXLAB Online

    FLEX LAB | Defusion, Modeling, and the Behavior of the Therapist

  8. Aug 22

    When ACT Becomes More Than Techniques: A Conversation with Peter Binnings

    What changes when ACT stops being something a clinician does and begins shaping how they understand therapy? In this episode of Deeply Functional: In Conversation, Todd Schmenk sits down with Peter Binnings, LICSW, to reflect on their shared journey from discovering ACT to developing a deeper, more functionally grounded way of practicing it. Together, they revisit what initially attracted them to ACT, what they misunderstood along the way, and when the model began to feel like more than a collection of interventions. You’ll explore: What first draws many clinicians toward ACTCommon misunderstandings during the early stages of learningHow Functional Contextualism changes the way clinicians understand therapyWhat remains meaningful after years of practicing ACTWhy becoming an ACT clinician requires continued curiosity and growthClinician takeaway: Developing fluency in ACT is not simply a matter of learning more techniques. It involves learning to see behavior differently, question your assumptions, and allow your clinical practice to keep evolving. Learn more about Peter here: https://journal.riact.org/author/peter/ For further learning, resources, training, and connection, visit riact.org.

    When ACT Becomes More Than Techniques: A Conversation with Peter Binnings
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Welcome to Deeply Functional, a podcast for clinicians who want to move beyond protocols and dive into the process. Hosted by Todd Schmenk, clinician, ACT Peer Reviewed Trainer and supervisor, the show explores psychological flexibility through Relational Frame Theory, Functional Contextualism, and Acceptance and Commitment Therapy. Short episodes sharpen case conceptualization and clinical practice. The companion series, In Conversation, brings clinicians together to explore their work, ideas, and lessons learned along the way. Less theory for theory's sake. More real world application.

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  • Creator
    Todd Schmenk
  • Years Active
    2026
  • Episodes
    36
  • Rating
    Clean
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    © Todd Schmenk
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