SIGNAL Podcast by Software Improvement Group

Turning complex IT topics into business clarity.

The SIGNAL podcast is a monthly show where we turn complex IT topics into business clarity. Hosted by Werner Heijstek, Senior Director at Software Improvement Group, Signal brings together experts to shift the conversation up: From technical complexity to business clarity.

  1. 1d ago

    Turning agentic AI adoption into business value | SIGNAL podcast

    Agentic AI is already writing production code, but most boards still can’t answer two basic questions: How do we scale AI adoption while staying in control, and is it creating real, measurable value? Marina Stojanovski, Director of Product & Technology at Greener Power Solutions, brings over a decade of product and engineering leadership, a PhD in computer science, and experience shaping how AI is scaled across growing technology organizations, balancing innovation, control, and a clear focus on value. She sits down with our host, Werner Heijstek, to discuss:- Who should own AI adoption?- How to encourage innovation without losing control- Why having control over autonomous agents becomes non-negotiable- The necessary shift in the way we work- How to know AI adoption is successful Chapters (00:00) Introduction (01:29) Who Owns AI (02:40) Innovation vs Control (04:37) Four Lenses on AI (07:21) Measuring Value (12:32) Guardrails for Agents (15:53) Architectural Drift (17:52) Scaling with Trust (20:41) Skills and Cognitive Debt (28:12) New Ways of Working (30:27) Board Advice Download AI Maturity Guide here⁠⁠. The SIGNAL podcast, powered by Software Improvement Group, is a monthly show where we turn complex IT topics into business clarity. Hosted by Werner Heijstek, Chief Delivery Officer at Software Improvement Group. Subscribe to never miss an episode and visit ⁠⁠our website⁠⁠ for more information. #podcast #ArtificialIntelligence #AgenticAI #AIadoption #CorporateGovernance #BoardLeadership #DigitalTransformation

  2. Sep 16

    Adopting agentic AI: What board members need to know | SIGNAL Podcast

    Three years. That’s all it took for AI to move from curiosity to commitment, from “have you tried this?” to “what’s our plan?” Today, AI adoption has moved faster than any technology shift most boards have governed. While agent capabilities are being introduced at scale, one question is still difficult to answer: what does this mean for my business? The board’s job is to make sure the organization can benefit from AI and do so responsibly.In this episode, tech executive Marion van Happen shares how the biggest enterprise AI opportunities are as much about strategy as technology. The instinct many organizations have is to go faster. What boards need is a better understanding of what the technology can do today and where it’s heading, so they can spot the quick wins and plan for what comes after them. She sits down with our host Werner Heijstek to discuss: - How boards are actually experiencing agentic AI adoption - Why it’s harder to govern than financial risk - Why replacing people with AI doesn’t work - What steps board members need to take to stay on top of developments Chapters (00:00) Intro(01:18) Agentic AI at Board Level(04:06) Quick Wins vs Strategy(08:05) Looking Ahead(12:06) Good and Bad Examples(15:34) Rethinking the Human Role(17:16) Board Accountability and AI Literacy(22:47) Tokenomics(27:00) Tracking AI with KPIs(29:04) Lessons Learned Download AI Maturity Guide here: https://www.softwareimprovementgroup.com/publications/ai-maturity-guide-2026/ The SIGNAL podcast, powered by Software Improvement Group, is a monthly show where we turn complex IT topics into business clarity. Hosted by Werner Heijstek, Chief Delivery Officer at Software Improvement Group. Subscribe to never miss an episode and visit our website for more information: https://www.softwareimprovementgroup.com/ #podcast #ArtificialIntelligence #AgenticAI #AIadoption #CorporateGovernance #BoardLeadership #DigitalTransformation

  3. Aug 12

    The key to harnessing developer agents at scale | SIGNAL Podcast

    Agent deployment jumped from 11% of organizations to 53% in two years, but only 23% see real ROI from AI agents. The gap isn’t the model. It’s what happens around it. Listen to discover what successful organizations do differently, and how the right context and guardrails can help your AI agents deliver real business value. You’ll learn how to: - Ground agents by providing them with the right architectural context - Plan and design your software system based on prioritization - Proactively guard your systems and prevent new security risk, technical debt, and architectural drift from entering - Let agents improve fixes and improvements more autonomously Chapters (0:00) Trailer (0:30) Introduction (1:15) Where companies stand today (2:14) Shift to agentic engineering (3:19) Humans, roles & productivity (7:37) Where leaders should start (9:51) Data beats assumptions (15:39) Harness engineering (20:05) The agentic SDLC (23:00) Maintainability & security gains Download State of Software 2026 ⁠here⁠. Read about the experiment here. The SIGNAL podcast, powered by Software Improvement Group, is a monthly show where we turn complex IT topics into business clarity. Hosted by Werner Heijstek, Chief Delivery Officer at Software Improvement Group. Subscribe to never miss an episode and visit ⁠our website⁠ for more information. #podcast #AIAgents #AgenticAI #MCP #HarnessEngineering #TechnicalDebt #SoftwareQuality #EnterpriseAI #SoftwareEngineer

  4. Jun 17

    State of Software 2026 report: the real cost of AI coding | SIGNAL Podcast

    AI writes code faster than ever. But what does that speed actually cost? Two findings from this year’s research are hard to ignore: AI token spend is turning into a material, unpredictable line item, and technical debt is shifting from the code level to the architecture level, right as AI generates code faster than teams can review it. That’s what we get into in this episode of the SIGNAL podcast, with Luc Brandts, CEO of Software Improvement Group. This conversation draws on our upcoming State of Software 2026 report, our annual look at the hidden costs and risks of software, this year measured against the full force of AI adoption. In this episode, Werner Heijstek sits down with Luc to talk about: - the real cost of AI-generated code, from token spend to review capacity, - why architecture, not the code itself, is where technical debt gets expensive, and Chapters (00:00) Intro(02:14) Agentic software engineering(03:30) AI output(05:45) How tokens work(07:17) AI Tokenomics(10:42) Pricing confusion(15:19) Architectural debt(18:46) Deterministic and AI(20:48) Metrics and KPIs that resonate Download the State of Software 2026 report here: https://www.softwareimprovementgroup.com/publications/state-of-software-2026/ The SIGNAL podcast, powered by Software Improvement Group, is a monthly show where we turn complex IT topics into business clarity. Hosted by Werner Heijstek, Senior Director at Software Improvement Group. Subscribe to never miss an episode and visit our website for more information: https://www.softwareimprovementgroup.com/ #podcast #ai #artificialintelligence #technicaldebt #aitokens #ceo #cto #cio #businesspodcast #technology #businessstrategy #softwareengineering _________ Gartner, Magic Quadrant for Technical Debt Management Tools, By Tigran Egiazarov et. al, 20 May 2026. Gartner, Market Guide for Technical Debt Management Tools, By Tigran Egiazarov et. al, 13 April 2026. GARTNER is a trademark of Gartner, Inc. and/or its affiliates. Magic Quadrant is a registered trademark of Gartner, Inc. and/or its affiliates and is used herein with permission. All rights reserved. Gartner does not endorse any company, vendor, product or service depicted in its publications, and does not advise technology users to select only those vendors with the highest ratings or other designation. Gartner publications consist of the opinions of Gartner’s business and technology insights organization and should not be construed as statements of fact. Gartner disclaims all warranties, expressed or implied, with respect to this publication, including any warranties of merchantability or fitness for a particular purpose.

  5. May 13

    Building fast, staying sane: Picnic's CTO on agentic AI | SIGNAL Podcast

    The conversation about agentic AI has moved fast. How does it change software engineering? Where do you draw the line between what agents can (and should) do autonomously, and where you prioritize human control? That's exactly what we're going to talk about in this episode of the SIGNAL podcast, with Daniel Gebler. Daniel is co-founder and CTO of Picnic, the online supermarket built on 350 engineers and around 100 applications across three countries. He recently judged an Open Claw Hackathon in Amsterdam, where 75 engineers delivered 32 submissions in 8 hours. What he saw there says a lot about where the AI builder community actually stands. Werner Heijstek sits down with Daniel to talk about:- what agentic AI is doing to software engineering,- how Picnic governs it in practice, and- what organizations can do to move faster, responsibly. Chapters (00:00) Introduction (01:04) Picnic's AI journey (03:18) The state of agentic AI at Picnic (05:19) Driving adoption (07:45) Why teams revert to old ways of working (10:41) Tracking bottlenecks, not lines of code (13:36) Code quality and reviews (16:37) Security and resilience (22:23) The future of software engineering The SIGNAL podcast, powered by Software Improvement Group, is a monthly show where we turn complex IT topics into business clarity. Hosted by Werner Heijstek, Senior Director at Software Improvement Group. Subscribe to never miss an episode and visit our website for more information: https://www.softwareimprovementgroup.com/ #podcast #ai #artificialintelligence #agenticai #aiforbusiness #aiadoption #aistrategy #aiimplementation #ceo #cto #cio #businesspodcast #technology #businessstrategy #softwareengineering #agents #picnic

  6. Apr 8

    Agentic AI in software engineering: how to keep up | SIGNAL Podcast

    AI coding assistants no longer just suggest code. They plan, write, and test software — and they're moving fast. So what happens when the loop moves faster than humans can keep up? In this episode of SIGNAL, host Werner Heijstek sits down with Luc Brandts, CEO of Software Improvement Group, to explore what agentic AI actually means for software quality, architecture, security, and governance. Drawing on SIG's latest analysis of systems built with agentic AI tools — including Cursor's FastRender and Claude's C Compiler — they get into why keeping a human in the loop still matters, and why that becomes harder to do at scale. The real challenge isn't building faster. It's staying in control while you do. Chapters (00:00) Trailer (01:04) The pace of AI development and experimentation (02:08) Are organizations actually seeing results? (03:51) Adoption patterns: front runners, laggards, and cynics (07:39) The right KPIs: beyond lines of code (09:20) Case study: FastRender and the swarm of agents experiment (14:11) The hidden risk of LLMs talking to each other (16:33) How to deploy AI responsibly: Sigrid in the loop (18:09) Senior vs. junior developers: the growing skills gap (23:59) Practical steps: gaining visibility and control Download the 2026 AI Boardroom Gap report here: https://www.softwareimprovementgroup.com/ai-boardroom-gap-2026/ The SIGNAL podcast, powered by Software Improvement Group, is a monthly show where we turn complex IT topics into business clarity. Hosted by Werner Heijstek, Senior Director at Software Improvement Group. Subscribe to never miss an episode and visit our website for more information: https://www.softwareimprovementgroup.com/ #podcast #ai #artificialintelligence #AgenticAI #aiforbusiness #aiadoption #aistrategy #aiimplementation #ceo #cto #cio #businesspodcast #technology #businessstrategy #softwareengineering

  7. Mar 11

    From AI lab prototypes to trusted systems in the field | SIGNAL Podcast

    Many organisations say they’re using AI, but far fewer can show where those systems run, how reliable they are, or what guardrails keep them safe. In this SIGNAL podcast episode, Simon Jagers, founder and co-CEO of Samotics, shares his learnings from moving from early lab prototypes to a trusted system monitoring critical industrial assets in the field. Werner Heijstek, host of the SIGNAL Podcast and Sr. Director at Software Improvement Group, and Simon explore: - how to move from promising AI experiments to robust systems in the field, - how to prove reliability so people actually trust AI output, and - how governance and guardrails help close the gap between AI ambition and reality. Chapters (00:00) Trailer (00:26) Introduction (01:54) The Origin Story: Starting Samotics in 2015 (04:10) The Breakthrough: Electrical Signals as a Data Source (06:48) How to Sell AI Before the Product Is Proven (11:16) The Failure That Changed Everything (15:47) Lessons for Founders Building AI Products (20:19) Why Most AI Never Makes It to Production (25:57) Security, Trust, and Why Humans Still Matter (29:06) The Big Lesson: Start With the Business Problem Download the 2026 AI Boardroom Gap report here: https://www.softwareimprovementgroup.com/ai-boardroom-gap-2026/ The SIGNAL podcast, powered by Software Improvement Group, is a monthly show where we turn complex IT topics into business clarity. Hosted by Werner Heijstek, Senior Director at Software Improvement Group. Subscribe to never miss an episode and visit our website for more information: https://www.softwareimprovementgroup.com/ #podcast #ai #artificialintelligence #aigovernance #aiforbusiness #aiadoption #aistrategy #aiimplementation #ceo #cto #cio #governance #businesspodcast #technology #businessstrategy #samotics #predictivemaintenance #conditionmonitoring #smartassetmonitoring #industrialai

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The SIGNAL podcast is a monthly show where we turn complex IT topics into business clarity. Hosted by Werner Heijstek, Senior Director at Software Improvement Group, Signal brings together experts to shift the conversation up: From technical complexity to business clarity.