HASSL'd

HASSL

Real conversations. Big sister energy. Serious topics, without the doom scroll. HASSL’d is a podcast about women’s safety - and what it will actually take to make things better. We’re taking the conversations women have been having for years out of the group chat and bringing everyone into them, especially men. Through honest conversations, lived experiences, influential guests and some funny moments too, we look at all the issues that sit under the umbrella of women’s safety - from harassment, relationships and dating to masculinity, misogyny, allyship and the culture that shapes how we treat each other. This isn’t another podcast telling women what to avoid, where not to go or how to keep themselves safe. We want to shift the conversation towards understanding the problem, questioning what we’ve come to accept as normal and helping more people, especially men, recognise the role they can play in changing it. Expect red flags, listener dilemmas, surprising research, different perspectives, good news, bad news and plenty of laughs along the way. Because women’s safety isn’t just a women’s issue - and change needs everyone in the conversation. Come for the conversation. Leave seeing something differently.

Episodes

  1. 8h ago

    What does safety actually cost women? | Natasha & Carla

    “We do these things subconsciously… it’s just so normalised.” This week, Natasha and Carla unpack the mental load of staying safe. From changing running routes when it gets dark and hiding your Strava map, to sharing locations before dates, watching your drink, checking the Uber route and paying for a taxi instead of taking two night buses alone – there are a LOT of tiny calculations women make without even noticing anymore. Natasha also talks about BOLDLI (@boldlirun), the running-safety movement she co-founded, and why women having to change when, where and how they exercise is such a clear example of that hidden mental load. And all of those precautions come with a cost: money, time, freedom and brain space. We talk about why women are still expected to manage that risk, why “nothing happened” doesn’t necessarily mean you were overreacting, and why the conversation so often focuses on what women should do differently instead of the behaviour making those precautions necessary. PLUS: what’s been winding us up, Green Light, Red Light on body counts, brutal honesty, people with no social media and friends dating your exes; some grim Guess Again stats; and our own big sibling advice. Note: This episode includes discussion of sexual harassment, assault and women’s experiences of feeling unsafe in public. HASSL’d contains mature content, including occasional strong language and conversations around harassment, misogyny and violence. HASSL’d is sponsored by Pod. Learn more about their trailblazing Eden project here: http://www.podenergy.com/eden Follow us: @‌hasslofficial and @‌hasslpod Follow and run with BOLDLI: @‌boldlirun – helping runners find community, build confidence and feel safer when they run. Book HASSL for workplace training: http://hassl.uk/pages/for-employers Learn with our FREE education resources: http://hassl.uk/pages/hassl-education-resources Apply to become a HASSL Ambassador: hassl.uk/pages/ambassador-program

    What does safety actually cost women? | Natasha & Carla
  2. Oct 27

    When did representation become a threat to masculinity? | Jamaal Burkmar

    “Do you actually love this thing – or do you just love your story in many forms?” This week, Natasha and Carla are joined by award-winning choreographer and content creator Jamaal Burkmar (@jamaalburkmar) – whose work spans film, pop culture, masculinity and the increasingly weird rules about what men and women are apparently allowed to be. We get into why simply putting a woman, LGBTQ+ person or person of colour at the centre of a story can now be dismissed as “woke”, why some people seem unable to engage with a world that doesn’t reflect their own experience back at them, and whether film, TV and culture can actually help us understand lives we’ll never live ourselves. We also talk about Jamaal’s years in the dance industry – from brutal training cultures and body standards to the very different pressures placed on male and female performers – and, naturally, we end up on the manosphere, rejection, dating, why going to the gym isn’t a substitute for working on yourself, and whether some men complaining about being lonely need to look slightly closer to home. PLUS: what’s been winding us up (A LOT), Green Light, Red Light on lateness, Do Not Disturb, splitting the bill and sleeping in socks; some surprisingly wholesome – and yep, less wholesome – stats about men and relationships in Guess Again; and Jamaal’s big sibling advice. Note: This episode includes discussion of sexual violence, rape, suicide, body image and abusive practices within the dance industry. HASSL’d contains mature content, including occasional strong language and conversations around harassment, misogyny and violence. A little reminder – the experiences and opinions expressed by guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of HASSL, Pod or the HASSL’d hosts. Whilst we don't allow discrimination, hate speech, sexism etc., part of the purpose of HASSL’d is to bring a range of perspectives into the conversation, so individual views may differ. --- HASSL’d is sponsored by Pod. Learn more about their trailblazing Eden project here: www.podenergy.com/eden Follow us: @hasslofficial and @hasslpod --- Book HASSL for workplace training: http://hassl.uk/pages/for-employers Learn with our FREE education resources: hassl.uk/pages/hassl-education-resources Apply to become a HASSL Ambassador: hassl.uk/pages/ambassador-program --- Music licensed through Soundstripe. Code: GWUGDNVI62DDLMS7 Code: AAAQVD7L6E5IW6WS

    When did representation become a threat to masculinity? | Jamaal Burkmar
  3. Oct 20

    I went undercover on the Tube – I was harassed eight times and assaulted once | Mimi Yates

    “I did four journeys. I was harassed eight times and assaulted once.” This week, Natasha and Carla are joined by investigative journalist Mimi Yates (@mimiyatesjourno), whose work brings social-first reporting to stories that are often hiding in plain sight. Most recently, Mimi went undercover on the London Underground to investigate the harassment women experience while simply trying to get from A to B – and what she captured was worse than she expected (but sadly, doesn’t really shock any of us). We talk about what happened across those journeys, the mental calculations women make without even realising it, and the people who could clearly see something was wrong… but still didn’t step in. Mimi also explains why even a tiny intervention from a bystander can completely change how safe someone feels in that moment. We also get into why so much harassment goes unreported, the difference between making women aware and making women afraid, and why the answer absolutely CAN’T be another list of things women should stop doing. Plus, Mimi takes us behind the scenes of investigative journalism – from secretly filming an investigation to squeezing months of reporting into a few minutes of social content, and why anger has actually fuelled so much of her career. PLUS: what’s been winding us up (London commutes, dark runs and the “I’m just a girl” era), Green Light, Red Light on getting your news from TikTok, five-minute voice notes and Irish exits; some pretty shocking public-transport stats in Guess Again; and Mimi’s big sibling advice on why you should never be afraid of being an angry feminist. Note: This episode includes discussion of sexual harassment, sexual assault, stalking and rape. HASSL’d contains mature content, including occasional strong language and conversations around harassment, misogyny and violence. A little reminder – the experiences and opinions expressed by guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of HASSL, Pod or the HASSL’d hosts. Whilst we don't allow discrimination, hate speech, sexism etc., part of the purpose of HASSL’d is to bring a range of perspectives into the conversation, so individual views may differ. --- HASSL’d is sponsored by Pod. Learn more about their trailblazing Eden project here: http://www.podenergy.com/eden Follow us: @‌hasslofficial and @‌hasslpod --- Book HASSL for workplace training: hassl.uk/pages/for-employers Learn with our FREE education resources: hassl.uk/pages/hassl-education-resources Apply to become a HASSL Ambassador: hassl.uk/pages/ambassador-program --- Music licensed through Soundstripe. Code: GWUGDNVI62DDLMS7 Code: AAAQVD7L6E5IW6WS

    I went undercover on the Tube – I was harassed eight times and assaulted once | Mimi Yates
  4. Oct 13

    The manosphere is ridiculous – that doesn’t make it harmless | Dev Bajwa

    “Some of the things I’m hearing are so stupid… but it’s dangerous.” This week, Natasha and Carla are joined by Dev Bajwa (@ammandev ) – comedy creator, professional reactor to some of the internet’s most unhinged takes, and founder of inclusive football community Dev FC. Dev tells us how making fun of red-pill podcasts and content turned into something a lot bigger: using comedy to challenge misogynistic ideas. We get into the hypocrisy of the manosphere, why some men will listen to other men before they’ll listen to women, what actually makes someone a “man”, and whether laughing at terrible takes risks amplifying them instead. We also talk about football culture, why Dev’s girlfriend feels unsafe in spaces he experiences as home, what men miss when they don’t know the reality of women’s everyday lives – and why calling yourself a decent man isn’t much use if you stay quiet around men who aren't behaving like one. Somewhere in amongst all that: train delays, Manchester United ruining Dev’s life, Crocs, phone snooping and whether getting upset at a football match is a red flag. PLUS: what’s been winding us up and Green Light, Red Light, as always; a pretty horrifying Guess Again about how young misogynistic attitudes are starting; and Dev’s big sibling advice. Note: This episode includes discussion of child sexual abuse material, domestic abuse, sexual violence, racism and misogyny. HASSL’d contains mature content, including occasional strong language and conversations around harassment, misogyny and violence. A little reminder – the experiences and opinions expressed by guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of HASSL, Pod or the HASSL’d hosts. Whilst we don't allow discrimination, hate speech, sexism etc., part of the purpose of HASSL’d is to bring a range of perspectives into the conversation, so individual views may differ. --- HASSL’d is sponsored by Pod. Learn more about their trailblazing Eden project here: http://www.podenergy.com/eden Follow us: @‌hasslofficial and @‌hasslpod ---- Book HASSL for workplace training: http://hassl.uk/pages/for-employers Learn with our FREE education resources: http://hassl.uk/pages/hassl-education-resources Apply to become a HASSL Ambassador: http://hassl.uk/pages/ambassador-program ---- Music licensed through Soundstripe. Code: GWUGDNVI62DDLMS7 Code: AAAQVD7L6E5IW6WS

    The manosphere is ridiculous – that doesn’t make it harmless | Dev Bajwa
  5. Oct 6

    Why does being a happy, single woman make some men so angry? | Claira Hermet

    “I’m single, I’ve never been married, I don’t have kids… but I’m happy.” Apparently, being a woman in your 40s, single, childfree and actually enjoying your life is enough to seriously upset some men online… This week, Natasha and Carla are joined by broadcaster, presenter and self-love and confidence coach Claira Hermet (@missclairahermet). We talk about the reaction Claira received when she started sharing her life online, why women are still sold such a narrow idea of what happiness is supposed to look like, and how much of what we think we want – marriage, children, the whole prescribed life plan – is actually ours. Claira describes the backlash just simply saying that she was single and happy… and why that response made her want to talk about it even more. We also get into women in male-dominated industries, body image and confidence, grief and learning to build a life you genuinely want. Claira shares the story behind her preventative double mastectomy – and what the experience taught her about how much femininity and women’s worth are still so tied to our bodies. PLUS: what’s been winding us up as always; Green Light, Red Light on feminism, work spouses, Snapchat, “natural women” and keeping your surname; a very on-theme Guess Again; and Claira’s big sibling advice. Note: This episode includes discussion of bereavement, cancer, preventative mastectomy, eating disorders and sexual harassment. From 23:07 to 24:38, Claira discusses her experiences of bereavement - and overall, there is discussion of the above throughout. HASSL’d contains mature content, including occasional strong language and conversations around harassment, misogyny and violence. A little reminder – the experiences and opinions expressed by guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of HASSL, Pod or the HASSL’d hosts. Whilst we don't allow discrimination, hate speech, sexism etc., part of the purpose of HASSL’d is to bring a range of perspectives into the conversation, so individual views may differ. ---- HASSL’d is sponsored by Pod. Learn more about their trailblazing Eden project here: http://www.podenergy.com/eden Follow us: @‌hasslofficial and @‌hasslpod ---- Book HASSL for workplace training: http://hassl.uk/pages/for-employers Learn with our FREE education resources: http://hassl.uk/pages/hassl-education-resources Apply to become a HASSL Ambassador: hassl.uk/pages/ambassador-program ---- Music licensed through Soundstripe. Code: GWUGDNVI62DDLMS7 Code: AAAQVD7L6E5IW6WS

    Why does being a happy, single woman make some men so angry? | Claira Hermet
  6. Sep 29

    Can better male friendships make women safer? | Tom Stroud & Dan Shrigley

    “Why is it strange for two guys to go on a man-date?” This was SUCH a hilarious yet thought-provoking episode – we can’t wait to share it with you! This week, Natasha and Carla are joined by Tom Stroud (@stroudtom) and Dan Shrigley (@danshrigley), founders of Shoulder to Shoulder – a community helping men make friends, talk properly and rethink some of the ideas they’ve been handed about masculinity. You might also recognise Tom from Love Is Blind UK – although apparently he never mentions it... Tom and Dan share how a viral clip about Tom’s “feminine traits” led to a coffee date, which turned into Shoulder to Shoulder... and from there, we get into male friendship, loneliness, and what happens when men don’t have healthy places to connect – including when that loneliness turns into resentment towards women. We also talk about what “good men” can actually do beyond simply knowing they’re good men, whether better male friendships could play a part in making women safer, and why men need spaces where they can actually talk to each other. Somewhere in amongst all that, there’s also what's been winding us up; a chaotic green light, red light; some surprising stats on masculinity in Guess Again; two very different pieces of big sibling advice and a perfectly normal first-date screening technique (according to some). Note: This episode includes discussion of depression, mental health, violence against women and sexual harassment. HASSL’d contains mature content, including occasional strong language and conversations around harassment, misogyny and violence. A little reminder – the experiences and opinions expressed by guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of HASSL, Pod or the HASSL’d hosts. Whilst we don't allow discrimination, hate speech, sexism etc., part of the purpose of HASSL’d is to bring a range of perspectives into the conversation, so individual views may differ. ---- HASSL’d is sponsored by Pod. Learn more about their trailblazing Eden project here: http://www.podenergy.com/eden Follow us: @‌hasslofficial and @‌hasslpod ---- Book HASSL for workplace training: hassl.uk/pages/for-employers Learn with our FREE education resources: hassl.uk/pages/hassl-education-resources Apply to become a HASSL Ambassador: hassl.uk/pages/ambassador-program ---- Music licensed through Soundstripe. Code: GWUGDNVI62DDLMS7 Code: AAAQVD7L6E5IW6WS

    Can better male friendships make women safer? | Tom Stroud & Dan Shrigley
  7. Sep 22

    Women’s safety, politics and the stories we’re sold | Femi Oluwole

    “If it’s not about keeping women safe… what are you actually here for?” What happens when women’s safety becomes part of a much bigger political argument – and how do you actually get through to someone when you completely disagree? This week, Natasha and Carla are joined by Femi Oluwole (@femi_sorry ) – political activist, creator and street interviewer, known for taking some of the biggest political arguments off the internet and talking them through face-to-face. We get into the political narratives that form around women’s safety, how to challenge someone without immediately shutting down the conversation, and what Femi has learnt from speaking to people whose politics are worlds apart from his own. We also talk about algorithms rewarding outrage over nuance, media literacy, why what men say when they’re around other men matters, and Femi’s own experiences – including how power and physical safety can completely change the way the same experience is understood. PLUS: what’s been winding us up (from the heavy to the light stuff), Green Light, Red Light on politics, cats, terrible repliers and people who clap when the plane lands (!), and Femi’s big sibling advice. Note: This episode includes discussion of childhood abuse, sexual harassment and violence. From 24:24-28:03, Femi discusses his experiences of abuse and safety in sexual situations. HASSL’d contains mature content, including occasional strong language and conversations around harassment, misogyny and violence. A little reminder – the experiences and opinions expressed by guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of HASSL, Pod or the HASSL’d hosts. Whilst we don't allow discrimination, hate speech, sexism etc., part of the purpose of HASSL’d is to bring a range of perspectives into the conversation, so individual views may differ. --- HASSL’d is sponsored by Pod. Learn more about their trailblazing Eden project here: www.podenergy.com/eden Follow us: @‌hasslofficial and @‌hasslpod --- Book HASSL for workplace training: hassl.uk/pages/for-employers Learn with our FREE education resources: hassl.uk/pages/hassl-education-resources Apply to become a HASSL Ambassador: hassl.uk/pages/ambassador-program --- Music licensed through Soundstripe. Code: GWUGDNVI62DDLMS7 Code: AAAQVD7L6E5IW6WS

    Women’s safety, politics and the stories we’re sold | Femi Oluwole
  8. Sep 15

    Why women’s safety can’t be women’s responsibility | Amy Watson

    “We so often put the responsibility on the people most affected by that issue to solve it.” Why are women still being taught how to stay safe instead of everyone else being taught how to make the world safer? For our very first episode of HASSL’d, Natasha and Carla are joined by the woman who started it all: HASSL founder Amy Watson. We get into how HASSL began, why prevention and education have always been at the heart of the mission, and why men have to be part of the conversation if anything is actually going to change. We also talk about the things we were taught to accept as girls, what men can do when women aren’t in the room, the tiny ways misogyny shows up in everyday life, and why inviting men into the conversation doesn’t mean making it all about them. PLUS: what’s been winding us up (there's always something), our first Green Light, Red Light, some fairly horrifying Gen Z statistics in Guess Again, and Amy’s big sibling advice. Note: This episode includes discussion of stalking, harassment and sexual violence. We’ll always give you a warning before the heavier sections so you can protect your peace if you need to. Natasha’s experience of being stalked is discussed from 12:17–13:51. HASSL’d contains mature content, including occasional strong language and conversations around harassment, misogyny and violence. A little reminder – the experiences and opinions expressed by guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of HASSL, Pod or the HASSL’d hosts. Whilst we don't allow discrimination, hate speech, sexism etc., part of the purpose of HASSL’d is to bring a range of perspectives into the conversation, so individual views may differ. --- HASSL’d is sponsored by Pod. Learn more about their trailblazing Eden project here: www.podenergy.com/eden Follow us: @hasslofficial and @hasslpod --- Book HASSL for workplace training: hassl.uk/pages/for-employers Learn with our FREE education resources: hassl.uk/pages/hassl-education-resources Apply to become a HASSL Ambassador: https://hassl.uk/pages/ambassador-program --- Music licensed through Soundstripe. Code: GWUGDNVI62DDLMS7 Code: AAAQVD7L6E5IW6WS

    Why women’s safety can’t be women’s responsibility | Amy Watson

About

Real conversations. Big sister energy. Serious topics, without the doom scroll. HASSL’d is a podcast about women’s safety - and what it will actually take to make things better. We’re taking the conversations women have been having for years out of the group chat and bringing everyone into them, especially men. Through honest conversations, lived experiences, influential guests and some funny moments too, we look at all the issues that sit under the umbrella of women’s safety - from harassment, relationships and dating to masculinity, misogyny, allyship and the culture that shapes how we treat each other. This isn’t another podcast telling women what to avoid, where not to go or how to keep themselves safe. We want to shift the conversation towards understanding the problem, questioning what we’ve come to accept as normal and helping more people, especially men, recognise the role they can play in changing it. Expect red flags, listener dilemmas, surprising research, different perspectives, good news, bad news and plenty of laughs along the way. Because women’s safety isn’t just a women’s issue - and change needs everyone in the conversation. Come for the conversation. Leave seeing something differently.

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