Real Firms

Real Firms
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Real Firms is Rebecca Driscoll, CPA, and Charlie Barmore, CPA, CFE, CVA, figuring out what the accounting firm of the future actually looks like. Charlie explores the frontier of AI in accounting: new models, tools, agents, workflows, and things accountants can do that weren’t practical before. Rebecca looks at how work is organized, how technology fits into the firm, and how decisions about clients, pricing, people, and boundaries affect the business. Whether an episode starts with a new AI capability or a problem inside a firm, they compare notes on how accounting firms are changing and what that means for the people running them. Real Firms sits at the intersection of AI Lab for Accountants and The Collaboration Room. AI Lab explores what’s becoming possible, while TCR focuses on the realities of running the firm. Real Firms is where those conversations meet, with two CPAs testing ideas, questioning old assumptions, and talking openly about what’s changing inside accounting firms. Learn more at https://realfirms.co.

Episodes

  1. Oct 19

    90 Days to a Better Tax Season with AI

    You have about three months before tax season ramps up, and this is the time to get comfortable with AI. Rebecca Driscoll and Charlie Barmore talk through how to prepare yourself, your firm, and your clients for a tax season where AI generated emails, work papers, and documents show up far more often than they did this year. Charlie shares the instructions he gives clients to paste into a Claude or ChatGPT project, so their AI knows how to work with him and how to write him a short, useful email. Rebecca makes the case for educating clients instead of being offended by what they send, pointing out that a client who hands you a fully filled out 1120-S still chose to give it to you and not the IRS. They walk through where to start: a long walk in voice mode to brain dump your frustrations and goals, building one small tool only you will use, and testing work papers with synthetic data instead of client data. Rebecca tells how a client analyzer spreadsheet turned into an interactive tool and taught her about hosting, domains, and GitHub along the way, and Charlie explains why every bad output is a chance to fix the setup so it doesn’t happen again. Along the way: using AI as a thinking partner, telling it to stop agreeing with everything, and how what you learn could become a new advisory service for your clients. This week’s starting point: go for a long walk with voice mode on, tell AI where your firm is today and where you want it to be by January 15, and brain dump everything before you try to plan anything. Where to go next. Experiment with AI alongside other accountants in AI Lab for Accountants (ALFA). For conversations about running your firm, clients, pricing, capacity, and what comes next, join The Collaboration Room (TCR).

  2. Oct 7

    AI Is Rewriting Accounting, So Build Two Plans Now

    Your firm needs two AI plans: one for next tax season and one for what you want the firm to become. Rebecca Driscoll and Charlie Barmore talk through how to improve the work you have to do now while making room to rethink your services, client relationships, and business model as AI changes accounting. Rebecca shares how a coffee with another mom turned into a conversation about cash flow, forecasting, and the gap between knowing AI exists and having time to use it. Charlie explains how a client lunch led him to build a cash dashboard across multiple businesses, and why solving that problem opened the door to a new paid service. They talk about planning for next tax season while rethinking the longer-term firm, finding opportunities beyond tax returns and monthly financials, and testing a new service with one willing client. Along the way: using AI as a thinking partner, asking how an existing offering could be 10X better, and finding peers who will help you experiment. They also compare notes on recent AI announcements and how Charlie tests new models with his own accounting examples. This week’s starting point: write down how your firm actually works. Document your workflows, tech stack, and where information lives so you and your AI have a clearer foundation for deciding what to improve. Where to go next.Experiment with AI alongside other accountants in AI Lab for Accountants (ALFA). For conversations about running your firm, clients, pricing, capacity, and what comes next, join The Collaboration Room (TCR).

  3. Sep 29

    What Happens When You Tell AI the Goal, Not the Process

    What happens when you tell AI the goal instead of the process? Rebecca Driscoll and Charlie Barmore talk about what it means to be an AI-native firm, why every firm needs its own North Star before deciding how deep to go, and why band-aiding AI onto your current tools is a fine place to start but probably not where you want to stay. They also get practical about how Charlie sets up his "harness," using client folders and context files so Claude knows exactly who the client is and what needs to happen, how that compares to projects in Claude or ChatGPT, and how to keep client information current after every meeting. They close with one thing to try this week: ask your AI to audit your setup and tell you what it needs to do its best work. ABOUT REAL FIRMS Real Firms is Rebecca Driscoll, CPA, and Charlie Barmore, CPA, CFE, CVA, figuring out what the accounting firm of the future actually looks like. Charlie explores what AI and new technology are making possible. Rebecca looks at how work is organized, how technology fits into the firm, and how decisions about clients, pricing, people, and boundaries affect the business. Real Firms sits at the intersection of AI Lab for Accountants and The Collaboration Room: what’s becoming possible meets what it takes to run the firm. Real Firms: https://realfirms.co AI Lab for Accountants: https://ailabforaccountants.com The Collaboration Room: https://thecollaborationroom.co

  4. Sep 22

    Build Your AI Muscle

    How do you get comfortable using AI in your firm? Start with the small things. Rebecca Driscoll and Charlie Barmore discuss how everyday experiments build confidence, why voice conversations are an easy entry point, and how sharing what you learn helps your team get started. They also explore what happens when clients bring their own AI agents into the relationship, how staff training could change, and where new advisory services might fit. ABOUT REAL FIRMS Real Firms is Rebecca Driscoll, CPA, and Charlie Barmore, CPA, CFE, CVA, figuring out what the accounting firm of the future actually looks like. Charlie explores what AI and new technology are making possible. Rebecca looks at how work is organized, how technology fits into the firm, and how decisions about clients, pricing, people, and boundaries affect the business. Real Firms sits at the intersection of AI Lab for Accountants and The Collaboration Room: what’s becoming possible meets what it takes to run the firm. Real Firms: https://realfirms.co AI Lab for Accountants: https://ailabforaccountants.com The Collaboration Room: https://thecollaborationroom.co

    Build Your AI Muscle

  5. Sep 14

    Two CPAs Try to Make Sense of AI in Practice

    Clients are starting to assume AI made your work faster, so your price should go down. Rebecca Driscoll and Charlie Barmore, both CPAs who have owned firms, talk through why that is actually the opening you have been waiting for: the deliverable stays the same, but for the first time you have the capacity to make it worth more. From there: what "AI native" means versus bolting AI onto a legacy process, when to leave the chat window for Claude Code, how Charlie pits two models against each other to catch errors, how to set up your AI on day one so it explains things in accounting terms, and why your staff should be better at this than you are. Sometimes we get too excited talking about what is actually happening inside real accounting firms. We were already twenty minutes into this conversation before we remembered to hit record...  Charlie is running the AI Native Firm series inside The Collaboration Room starting this month, four live sessions on exactly this: what it means to be AI native and what firm owners should do now. TCR is $100 a month, cancel anytime: https://community.thecollaborationroom.co/checkout/tcr-community-membership ABOUT REAL FIRMS Real Firms is Rebecca Driscoll, CPA, and Charlie Barmore, CPA, CFE, CVA, figuring out what the accounting firm of the future actually looks like. Charlie explores what AI and new technology are making possible. Rebecca looks at how work is organized, how technology fits into the firm, and how decisions about clients, pricing, people, and boundaries affect the business. Real Firms sits at the intersection of AI Lab for Accountants and The Collaboration Room: what’s becoming possible meets what it takes to run the firm. Real Firms: https://realfirms.co AI Lab for Accountants: https://ailabforaccountants.com The Collaboration Room: https://thecollaborationroom.co

    Two CPAs Try to Make Sense of AI in Practice
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Real Firms is Rebecca Driscoll, CPA, and Charlie Barmore, CPA, CFE, CVA, figuring out what the accounting firm of the future actually looks like. Charlie explores the frontier of AI in accounting: new models, tools, agents, workflows, and things accountants can do that weren’t practical before. Rebecca looks at how work is organized, how technology fits into the firm, and how decisions about clients, pricing, people, and boundaries affect the business. Whether an episode starts with a new AI capability or a problem inside a firm, they compare notes on how accounting firms are changing and what that means for the people running them. Real Firms sits at the intersection of AI Lab for Accountants and The Collaboration Room. AI Lab explores what’s becoming possible, while TCR focuses on the realities of running the firm. Real Firms is where those conversations meet, with two CPAs testing ideas, questioning old assumptions, and talking openly about what’s changing inside accounting firms. Learn more at https://realfirms.co.

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    Real Firms
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    2026
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