The Herbarium Hour

Australian Institute of Pharmacognosy

The Herbarium Hour is a weekly podcast on medicinal plants from the Australian Institute of Pharmacognosy in Cardwell, far north Queensland. Each episode takes one plant or one question and follows it through its history, its chemistry and what the research shows it can do. The series covers herbal medicines used in Australia and around the world: echinacea, kava, pelargonium, turmeric, St John's wort, black cohosh and plenty more. We look at how they work in the body, how their quality is tested, what the TGA has decided about them and where the evidence stands. Ethnobotany and old herbals such as the Picatrix come into it too. We're for herbal medicine, for education and for good science, and we think they belong together. The conversations are pitched so a curious listener can follow them without a science degree. New episodes go out on Mondays at 09:00 AEST. Nothing in the show is a prescription or a dose. If you want to use a herb, consult a degree-qualified herbalist with competencies and adequate training in pharmacognosy. Australian Institute of Pharmacognosy, Cardwell, Queensland. https://www.australian-pharmacognosy.org/podcast/

Episodes

  1. 1d ago

    The Black Cohosh Liver Mystery

    Black cohosh (Actaea racemosa, long filed as Cimicifuga racemosa), its triterpene glycosides actein and 23-epi-26-deoxyactein, and the liver injury warning Australian labels have to carry. The episode works through the Institute's pre-publication monograph AIP-HP003. It starts with the plant in shaded eastern North American woodland and the knotted dark rhizome and roots that make up the drug. Then comes the naming problem: the 1998 move of Cimicifuga into Actaea left the European Medicines Agency, the World Health Organization and most older trials on one name while the TGA and manufacturers moved to the other, so a toxicology search on one spelling misses decades of case data. Asian pharmacopoeias use Rhizoma cimicifugae for different species altogether, which is how a shipment of sheng ma can clear paperwork as black cohosh. A laboratory section explains how the powder is authenticated: lignified vessels with bordered pits, suberised cork fragments, starch granules of 3 to 15 micrometres with a slit-shaped hilum, and the negative markers the European Pharmacopoeia insists on, no stomata, no trichomes, no calcium oxalate. Potency runs on HPLC with light-scattering detection, twelve summed peaks against a minimum of 1.0% triterpene glycosides, calibrated against monoammonium glycyrrhizate from liquorice. The supply chain follows: about 500,000 pounds of root a year, roughly 97% wild collected, lookalikes such as Actaea podocarpa in the same ravines, cheaper Asian species substituted on purpose, and a 2001 TGA survey that found 35% of Australian retail products held other species. Cimifugin, absent from authentic North American material, is what a thin-layer chromatography screen hunts, down to about 5% adulteration. Chapters00:00 A supplement, then a transplant list01:39 Why the Institute put this monograph together03:16 The plant in Appalachian woodland04:55 The rhizome, the drug and its old names06:32 Cimicifuga or Actaea: the 1998 revision09:44 Sheng ma and the shipping manifest11:21 Microscopy: clearing agents and lignified vessels12:59 Starch granules with a slit hilum14:37 Negative markers that condemn a batch16:12 Triterpene glycosides and the 1.0% limit17:48 Why the calibrant comes from liquorice19:25 HPLC, light scattering and twelve peaks21:00 Half a million pounds a year, almost all wild collected22:42 Yellow cohosh, and deliberate substitution24:20 The 2001 TGA survey: 35% were other species25:57 Cimifugin, the chemical dye pack27:37 How the TLC screen is run29:17 Twenty-five years on, and a new market survey30:57 The phytoestrogen theory32:35 Formononetin was never there34:13 Serotonin, opioid and dopamine pathways35:49 What the 40 mg extract trials show39:08 Liquid extracts at 20 to 35 times the trial dose42:24 Idiosyncratic liver injury and the Australian label45:37 Liver disease, pregnancy and lactation47:16 The blue cohosh combination case48:51 Hormone-dependent tumours and the observational data52:10 A DNA barcoding proposal for the Australian market53:46 Closing thought More from the Institute's Journal: https://www.australian-pharmacognosy.org/pharmacopoeia/actaea-racemosa/ Nothing in this episode is a prescription or a dose. If you want to use a herb, consult a degree-qualified herbalist with competencies and adequate training in pharmacognosy. Dr Luke Iggulden, Chief Scientific Officer, made the episode from the Institute's Journal and monograph material. Jesse Kirby, Head of Community Outreach, wrote the show notes and chapters from the episode transcript. Jesse Kirby scheduled the release. Australian Institute of Pharmacognosy, Cardwell, Queensland.

    The Black Cohosh Liver Mystery
  2. Oct 11

    Why the TGA Took Andrographis Out of Listed Medicines

    Andrographis paniculata, the king of bitters, its andrographolide diterpenoids, and the anaphylaxis signal that led the TGA to remove it from the ingredients allowed in Australian listed medicines on 17/09/2026. The episode reads the Institute's 2026 monograph and literature review. Andrographis is a knee-high annual of the Acanthaceae from southern India and Sri Lanka, naturalised as a weed in parts of Queensland, with square stems, narrow hairless leaves and small white flowers marked with violet. The trade name green chiretta is shared with Swertia chirayita, a gentian with a different chemistry, so only the full binomial on the raw material identifies it. Edward John Waring's 1868 Pharmacopoeia of India listed it as a bitter tonic and doubted its credit, since his patients also got stronger remedies. The second half follows the TGA safety review to 31/12/2025: 287 Australian anaphylaxis reports, 130 hospital admissions, 105 people given adrenaline and one death in June 2024. Of those reactions, 74% began within 30 minutes, over half the people had no allergy history, and 71% came on first use or after earlier uneventful use. Combination products with echinacea made up about 98% of supply. Single-ingredient andrographis was 0.14% of supply and 0.74% of cases, echinacea without andrographis drew 10 reports over the same period, and Thai VigiBase data showed the same signal for andrographis taken alone. Label warnings from 2020 did not bring reports down. The closing sections cover what the removal means for listed medicines and for practitioner-compounded supply, warfarin and immunosuppressants, pregnancy, who should stop or avoid it, and the signs of anaphylaxis with the first aid: call triple zero, lie the person flat, and give adrenaline if in doubt. In this episode: (00:00) The medicine cabinet; (02:41) The Institute's sources; (04:58) From king of bitters to regulatory action; (05:27) A knee-high weed with square stems; (08:20) Many names, and the chiretta trap; (10:36) Traditional use across South Asia and China; (12:26) Waring's footnote, 1868; (14:39) What tradition can and cannot tell us; (16:09) Andrographis in Australian cold products; (17:41) Three different doses; (22:22) Does it shorten a cold?; (23:40) Tier B, and why; (25:51) COVID-19 trials in Thailand; (27:51) Ulcerative colitis, stopped for futility; (29:39) A modest benefit, summed up; (30:53) The TGA adverse event data; (31:55) What anaphylaxis does to the body; (33:05) 287 reports to December 2025; (34:19) Fast reactions in people with no allergy history; (36:42) How a first dose can react; (38:49) Was echinacea to blame?; (40:00) Supply data and single-herb products; (42:03) The Thai VigiBase signal; (43:36) Label warnings from 2020; (45:30) Why the labels failed; (48:52) Cofactors: anti-inflammatories, alcohol, exercise; (49:57) Removal from listed medicines, 17/09/2026; (51:48) The practitioner compounding exemption; (53:36) Screening, interactions and the first dose; (56:16) Is it worth prescribing?; (56:57) Check your cabinet; (58:00) Who should stop or avoid it; (59:41) Pregnancy and breastfeeding; (1:00:35) Signs of anaphylaxis; (1:02:05) First aid: triple zero, lie flat, adrenaline; (1:04:18) The arc of the story; (1:05:47) Closing thought. Read more in the Institute's Journal: https://www.australian-pharmacognosy.org/pharmacopoeia/andrographis-paniculata/ Nothing in this episode is a prescription or a dose. If you want to use a herb, consult a degree-qualified herbalist with competencies and adequate training in pharmacognosy. Dr Luke Iggulden, Chief Scientific Officer, made the episode from the Institute's Journal and monograph material. Jesse Kirby, Head of Community Outreach, wrote the show notes and chapters from the episode transcript. The Herbarium Hour, from the Australian Institute of Pharmacognosy, Cardwell, Queensland.

    Why the TGA Took Andrographis Out of Listed Medicines
  3. Oct 9

    Medicinal Cannabis in Australia, Ten Years On: What Worked, What Didn't and What Comes Next

    Medicinal cannabis (Cannabis sativa) in Australia after ten years of legal access, worked through the Institute's 2026 report card on the industry. Medicinal cannabis is a prescription medicine here, with THC in Schedule 8 and most CBD in Schedule 4. The episode closes on the report's recommendations for the next decade: one step clinics can take now under current law, and a second that needs law reform, held to the Ahpra guardrails. In this episode: (00:00) A medicine with no tested dose; (04:41) The Institute's report card; (06:32) How the system was built; (14:05) What legal access got right; (20:59) No ceiling on THC strength; (29:46) Single-medicine clinics; (35:20) Fees, imports and price; (39:00) What the trials show; (44:56) What prescribers are taught; (49:41) Sativa, indica and terpenes; (57:40) CBD interactions; (1:01:58) Who is on the clinic team; (1:05:06) Recommendations for the next decade; (1:10:25) Summing up. Read more in the Institute's Journal: https://www.australian-pharmacognosy.org/blog/medicinal-cannabis-australia-industry-report-card/ About this episode: The Herbarium Hour is a third-party production based on the Institute's published papers. It is not produced in-house, and the hosts are not Institute staff. Where they get a technical detail wrong, the correction is listed here. Corrections. The podcast hosts misinterpreted the following from our papers: (52:22) The hosts said: Limonene also lowered heart rate and kept THC's pain relief. Correct: The trial found less anxiety and paranoia; the report gives no heart rate or pain data. (58:21) The hosts said: CBD significantly raises THC levels and intoxication. Correct: Certainty was very low for THC and moderate for 11-hydroxy-THC, and intoxication was not reported. (56:38) The hosts said: The report calls the entourage effect mostly marketing. Correct: The report finds whole-plant effects never properly tested. (57:48) The hosts said: CBD lattes and gummies sell freely at markets. Correct: CBD is a Schedule 4 prescription medicine in Australia. (40:51) The hosts said: An NNT of 24 means 23 in 24 get no relief. Correct: One extra person in 24 gets a 30% pain reduction over placebo. (41:00) The hosts said: One in six has a severe adverse event. Correct: One extra person in six has an adverse event of any severity. (36:59) The hosts said: Street cannabis costs about $10.70 a gram. Correct: That is the bulk ounce price; the street median per gram was $22.50. (32:59) The hosts said: Ahpra said almost never first line. Correct: Ahpra said never first line. (1:05:11) The hosts said: Clinics should be mandated to bring this expertise onto staff now. Correct: Clinics may do this now; a requirement would be for regulators to set. (59:29) The hosts said: The report urgently advises INR monitoring with warfarin. Correct: It cites one case report and notes monitoring is advised. (34:00) The hosts said: The fines were for cancer and Alzheimer's claims. Correct: The report does not say what the advertisements claimed. (50:28) The hosts said: Sativa and indica plants are genetically identical. Correct: One study found the labels indistinguishable across the genome. (16:55) The hosts said: Mycotoxin spores can cause fatal lung infections. Correct: Mycotoxins are mould chemicals; the report makes no lung infection claim. Nothing in this episode is a prescription or a dose. If you want to use a herb, consult a degree-qualified herbalist with competencies and adequate training in pharmacognosy. Dr Eleanor Whitcombe, Head of Medicine, checked the episode against the report for the corrections. The Herbarium Hour, from the Australian Institute of Pharmacognosy, Cardwell, Queensland.

    Medicinal Cannabis in Australia, Ten Years On: What Worked, What Didn't and What Comes Next
  4. Oct 5

    Echinacea Blends and Your Liver Enzymes

    Echinacea angustifolia and Echinacea purpurea, the narrow-leaved and purple coneflowers, their alkylamides, echinacoside and cynarin, and why a 60:40 root blend behaves differently in the liver. The episode reads the Institute's two 2026 monographs. A bottle labelled only echinacea leaves out the species, the plant part and the chemistry, which matters because the two roots are chemically unalike. E. angustifolia is a short prairie plant of the central Great Plains whose medicine sits in the taproot, so harvesting kills the plant, and wild stands are in decline; E. purpurea is farmed at scale in Europe. Neither grows wild in Australia, so the whole local supply is imported. A 2020 Italian field trial planted 65 seed accessions labelled as E. angustifolia from germplasm banks, botanic gardens and suppliers: 17 failed to establish and seven of the 48 survivors were other species or hybrids. Authentication fills the middle. Under the microscope E. angustifolia root shows lignified fibre bundles bordered by black phytomelanin and oleoresin canals; E. purpurea shows none. HPLC under the European Pharmacopoeia requires at least 0.5% echinacoside, with cynarin present to rule out E. pallida, and any cichoric acid in an angustifolia batch gives away purpurea root cut into it. An assay marker is then separated from an active constituent: echinacoside is stable, measurable and degrades with poor drying, so it checks handling, while the alkylamides behind the tingle the eclectics chewed for are what reaches the blood. Chapters00:00 A bottle with a purple coneflower on the label01:29 Two species, one name02:55 What a label leaves out04:20 No wild stands here: an imported supply05:47 The 2020 Italian seed trial07:12 Cross-pollination in the daisy family08:46 Phytomelanin under the microscope11:38 HPLC and the echinacoside limit13:05 Cynarin, and keeping E. pallida out14:32 The eclectics and the tingling tongue15:59 Parthenium integrifolium, the old counterfeit17:25 Assay marker against active constituent18:52 Tier C for either root on its own20:22 The Turner rhinovirus challenge trial21:47 Barrett 2010, and a p value of 0.08923:14 The long-haul flight trial24:45 Trial doses against clinical doses26:10 Why the blend is 60:4027:37 What never reaches the bloodstream29:02 Alkylamides and CB2 receptors30:28 First-pass metabolism and CYP3A431:54 Mechanism-based inactivation34:48 Narrow therapeutic margin medicines36:13 Asteraceae allergy and atopy37:38 Anaphylaxis and a 21-year Australian review39:03 The TGA andrographis investigation40:28 Echinacea's own signal in the reports41:56 The warning, and when it is an emergency43:22 What the eclectics used the root for46:15 Closing thought More from the Institute's Journal: https://www.australian-pharmacognosy.org/pharmacopoeia/echinacea-angustifolia/ Nothing in this episode is a prescription or a dose. If you want to use a herb, consult a degree-qualified herbalist with competencies and adequate training in pharmacognosy. Dr Luke Iggulden, Chief Scientific Officer, made the episode from the Institute's Journal and monograph material. Jesse Kirby, Head of Community Outreach, wrote the show notes and chapters from the episode transcript. Jesse Kirby scheduled the release. Australian Institute of Pharmacognosy, Cardwell, Queensland.

    Echinacea Blends and Your Liver Enzymes

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The Herbarium Hour is a weekly podcast on medicinal plants from the Australian Institute of Pharmacognosy in Cardwell, far north Queensland. Each episode takes one plant or one question and follows it through its history, its chemistry and what the research shows it can do. The series covers herbal medicines used in Australia and around the world: echinacea, kava, pelargonium, turmeric, St John's wort, black cohosh and plenty more. We look at how they work in the body, how their quality is tested, what the TGA has decided about them and where the evidence stands. Ethnobotany and old herbals such as the Picatrix come into it too. We're for herbal medicine, for education and for good science, and we think they belong together. The conversations are pitched so a curious listener can follow them without a science degree. New episodes go out on Mondays at 09:00 AEST. Nothing in the show is a prescription or a dose. If you want to use a herb, consult a degree-qualified herbalist with competencies and adequate training in pharmacognosy. Australian Institute of Pharmacognosy, Cardwell, Queensland. https://www.australian-pharmacognosy.org/podcast/