The Dealer Playbook

Michael Cirillo

The Dealer Playbook is the podcast for serious automotive professionals. The ones who think beyond the transaction. Hosted by Michael Cirillo, now in its 12th year, The Dealer Playbook delivers straight-talk conversations with the dealers, operators, and leaders who are actually building something. If you run a store, lead a team, or are building a career worth having, this is your show. New episodes every week. Follow so you don't miss one.

  1. 2d ago

    “Ten Cars Does Not Work” - The Habits Behind Higher Car Sales | Raul Tomsa, Client Advisor at Motor Werks

    Average production has a cost, and it usually shows up long before someone notices it in their paycheck. After 18 years in automotive retail, Raul stepped away from the general sales manager position and returned to the showroom floor as a client advisor. He wanted to reconnect with the customer experience and find out what separates someone selling ten cars a month from someone consistently producing 20 or more. Raul explains why average producers often wait for perfect deals, avoid low-gross opportunities, and talk themselves out of transactions before the customer ever does. High performers keep stacking deals, serve every customer well, and understand that one additional sale can unlock thousands of dollars in volume bonuses. He also shares why personal presentation matters, how helping coworkers strengthens the entire store, and why operating like an owner can make you more valuable regardless of your title. The conversation moves into social media, where Raul breaks down how educational content creates real business. One video about the G-Wagon market led to a factory order, an interim lease, and a referral who purchased another vehicle. Raul is a client advisor with 18 years of dealership experience and the creator behind Vincierge. Connect with him on Instagram, TikTok, and Facebook at @vincierge Michael’s takeaway: Average is expensive. Stop waiting for better opportunities and become better at serving the opportunities already in front of you. Timestamps 00:00 Intro 00:48 Dealer Playbook Support 02:10 Why He Returned 08:41 Can Connection Be Taught 15:37 Play by the Rules 19:39 Leadership Advantage 26:52 Money Versus Meaning 29:03 From 10 to 40 Cars 35:00 Service First Selling 40:56 Social Media Reality 42:06 Content That Sells 49:29 Authenticity Over AI 51:48 Right People Not Viral 55:25 Wrap Up and Connect

  2. Jul 14

    “39 Cars To 62” - How A Store Fixed A Decade-long Sales Plateau In 60 Days | Jonathan Dawson, Dealer Principal at Cherokee Mitsubishi

    Jonathan Dawson has spent over 20 years training dealerships as the president and founder of Sellcology and co-founder of the Pinnacle Society. A year ago, he became an owner and operator himself at Cherokee Mitsubishi. This episode centers on one story: a 10 year veteran salesperson who'd been chasing 40 cars a month for a decade, topping out at 39, and told Jonathan flatly that the only way to get there was to fire five coworkers and add more staff and inventory. Jonathan walked him through a simple math exercise instead, built entirely off the salesperson's own best single day. Two months later, he sold 62 cars. No new hires, no new inventory. Jonathan also gets specific about the moment he had to write up his own top performer twice in two days, why he didn't let it slide even though it stung more than he expected, and the principle he now runs his store by: you either raise your people to your standard, or you eventually lower your standard to your people. Michael's takeaway: the ceiling most salespeople hit isn't a real ceiling, it's a number they made peace with a long time ago, and the fastest way to break it is math, not motivation. (00:00) Standards Dilemma (00:45) Show Support And Free Book (02:11) TikTok Prodigy And Stewardship (04:08) Stewardship Defined With Examples (08:24) Self Accountability And Value (11:56) Building Owners In Business (14:50) Dealer Principal Hard Lessons (19:01) Non Negotiables And Accountability (21:58) Vision And Personal Branding (30:45) Unlocking Bigger Potential (36:12) Motivation And Kingdom Impact (39:25) Connect And Closing Remarks

  3. Jul 7

    "175 to 400 Cars a Month" — The Used Car Reframe That Changed Every Department | Rob Dell, VP at Bob Ruth Ford

    Rob Dell runs a Ford store in a town of just 2,700 people, boxed in by a competing Ford dealer every seven miles. Instead of fighting for new car volume he could never win, he rebuilt his store around used cars, taking monthly volume from around 175 to close to 400. Rob Dell is the Vice President at Bob Ruth Ford, and he's spent almost 30 years figuring out what actually makes a dealership work. In this episode, Rob breaks down the shift in thinking that made that growth possible. He explains why he stopped chasing a flat front-end profit number on every deal and started valuing every trade at a baseline of $3,500 once service, parts, and finance are factored in. He also gets into the historical data his buyers use to price a used car before it ever hits the lot, the five-thousand-dollar rule that keeps his team taking smart risks, and the six-person pod structure that keeps every manager focused without being stretched too thin. You can connect with Rob on LinkedIn, where he posts regularly about the real numbers at his store, wins and losses included. Michael's takeaway: the number that matters isn't how many cars you sell. It's understanding what one deal is actually worth once every department gets its share. Follow The Dealer Playbook so you never miss an episode. (00:00) Championship Mindset (00:53) Sponsor Message FlexDealer (02:19) Accidental Start In Cars (03:58) Choosing The Right Mentors (06:49) Building Teams In Pods (12:21) Leadership View And AI (14:56) Quality Service Wins (19:31) Used Cars Strategy Shift (22:24) Buying Used Cars With Data (25:49) Variable Vs Fixed Alignment (33:38) No Excuses Who Said (37:30) Learning From Mistakes (40:47) Bison Mentality Closing (41:57) Connect And Wrap Up

  4. Jun 30

    “My Team Will Adapt at the Drop of a Dime” — The GM Playbook for Leading When You Don’t Have All the Answers | Charlie Spradlin, GM Art Moehn Auto Group

    There's a moment in this conversation where Charlie Spradlin says something most GMs would never admit out loud, and it's the reason his multi-rooftop dealer group keeps adapting faster than everyone else around him. He's not running things the way you'd expect for someone breaking records the way he is. This episode gets into how he actually leads his team through constant market shifts, what's really going on with his pay plan, and the one thing he had to let go of to get his store to where it is now. What you'll get from this episode: The mindset shift that changed how fast Charlie's team responds to a changing marketWhat's actually behind his pay plan, and why it's not what most dealers expectThe one thing Charlie had to give up to grow past where he was stuckA different take on what real trust looks like between a GM and their teamCharlie Spradlin is GM at Art Moehn Chevrolet Honda, where he's grown a multi-rooftop dealer group while protecting net profit through constant market shifts. Follow The Dealer Playbook so you never miss an episode.(00:00) What's Coming (00:51) Sponsor Message FlexDealer (02:22) Origin Story Into Auto (05:37) Climbing To General Manager (06:38) Mentors And Proximity (08:38) Discomfort And Humility (12:34) Post COVID Challenges (14:19) Vulnerable Leadership (17:32) Big Picture Perspective (25:50) Pay Plans And Culture (29:22) Running Into Storms (31:59) Used Car Inventory Fix (34:53) Architect Not Operator (40:52) Closing And Connect (41:51) Final Outro

  5. Jun 16

    "The middle ground" — How Smart Dealers Use AI Beyond Hype or Fear | Michael Cirillo, CEO at FlexDealer

    Are the "AI zealots" and "AI doomsayers" clouding your judgment about what artificial intelligence actually means for your automotive retail business? It’s time to move beyond the hype and fear and discover the practical, actionable ways AI can elevate your dealership and refocus your team on what truly matters: human connection. What you will get from this episode: - Understand how AI can free up time from monotonous tasks, allowing your team to focus on meaningful customer interactions. - Learn how top performers are using AI to analyze CRM data, identify customer trends, and enhance sales strategies. - Discover practical applications for departmental leaders to transition from "operator" to "architect," empowering their teams. - Gain clarity on how to utilize AI to build a more effective, human-centric dealership culture. Join Michael Cirillo, Host of The Dealer Playbook, as he shares tangible examples and strategies from his own experience and from leading automotive professionals on leveraging AI to scale the human element in your business. Follow The Dealer Playbook so you never miss an episode. Timestamps 00:00 Intro 02:10 Hype vs Zealots 02:51 Internet Disruption Story 10:32 Finding the Middle Ground 13:03 Watching Claude Ad 15:05 Ad Breakdown and Narrative 20:35 AI Scales the Human 24:25 Dealer AI Morning Brief 28:43 CRM Data Sales Insights 31:44 GM Delegation with AI 32:56 Three Practical Use Cases 34:24 Final Takeaways and Outro

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The Dealer Playbook is the podcast for serious automotive professionals. The ones who think beyond the transaction. Hosted by Michael Cirillo, now in its 12th year, The Dealer Playbook delivers straight-talk conversations with the dealers, operators, and leaders who are actually building something. If you run a store, lead a team, or are building a career worth having, this is your show. New episodes every week. Follow so you don't miss one.