Making Chips Podcast for Manufacturing Leaders

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Manufacturing is tough—but you don't have to go it alone. If you're leading a manufacturing business, you face constant pressure: staying competitive, adopting new tech, managing people, and driving growth. MakingChips helps you tackle those challenges head-on. Since 2014, we've been equipping manufacturing leaders with the knowledge and inspiration they need to succeed. With hundreds of episodes and over a million downloads, MakingChips is a top resource for the metalworking nation—covering leadership, operations, technology, and workforce development. If making chips is part of your daily grind, this is your podcast. Join hosts Nick Goellner, Mike Payne, and Paul Van Metre for real talk on the issues that matter most.

  1. 1D AGO

    From Lego Bricks to Aerospace Dreams: How a 21-Year-Old Is Building a Machine Shop From Scratch

    What does the next generation of manufacturing ownership really look like? In this episode of MakingChips, we sit down with Mason Nicholas, a 21-year-old shop owner who's building his business one machine, one customer, and one sleepless night at a time. His journey didn't start with a formal apprenticeship or engineering degree. It started with motorcycles, model cars, a 3D printer, and a curiosity about how things are made. Mason walks through the unconventional path that led him into machining, from teaching himself CAD during COVID to interning in multiple shops while still in high school. Along the way, he learned programming, fixturing, production workflows, and the realities of shop life. That hands-on exposure eventually turned into entrepreneurial ambition, and before long he was running parts at night on a CNC knee mill, chasing work, and learning the business the hard way. The conversation dives deep into the realities of starting a shop young. Mason shares how he bootstrapped his first Haas, balanced customer work with learning, and navigated common early mistakes like chasing low-margin work and trying to be everything to everyone. The hosts also unpack the importance of niching down, building cash reserves, and choosing a long-term strategy instead of chasing short-term revenue. Looking ahead, Mason outlines his vision for building a specialized aerospace and defense shop, investing in five-axis capability, and eventually creating a talent pipeline to bring new people into manufacturing. It's an honest conversation about ambition, discipline, and what it takes to turn passion into a sustainable manufacturing business. Segments (0:00) Mason Nicholas and his unconventional path into manufacturing (3:54) Learning machining through high school programs and internships (6:52) Running parts at night, landing his first customers, and early job costing mistakes (9:57) Buying his first Haas and officially launching the business (11:33) Leaving his job and committing to entrepreneurship (14:45) Check out the Hennig WorkFlow Automated Pallet Delivery System (15:35) What his one-man shop looks like today (19:19) First IMTS experience and seeing the industry's scale (20:34) Head to the DN Solutions Manufacturing Without Limits event (21:33) Bootstrapping growth and reinvesting into tooling and equipment (23:14) Deciding when to buy the next machine (25:09) Paperless Parts is built for shops preparing for CMMC Level II  (26:58) One-man shop realities and five-year growth vision (29:10) Creating a future talent pipeline and second shop concept (31:31) Technology, certifications, and preparing for aerospace work (33:16) Lights-out machining and maximizing spindle uptime (36:44) Cash flow discipline and managing capital-intensive growth (42:49) Advice for new shop owners on niching down Resources mentioned on this episode Cherry Creek Innovation Campus Hennig WorkFlow Automated Pallet Delivery System Head to the DN Solutions Manufacturing Without Limits event Verdant Commercial Capital Paperless Parts is built for shops preparing for CMMC Level II  Nathan Bourgeois - Owner at Ouroboros Space and Defense Mace MFG Connect with Mason on LinkedIn   Connect With MakingChips www.MakingChips.com On Facebook On LinkedIn On Instagram On Twitter On YouTube

    46 min

  2. APR 6

    Turn It Up to 11: From YouTube Learning to Aerospace Growth with Nick Preece

    What happens when a college engineering student buys a CNC machine just to experiment… and accidentally builds an aerospace machine shop? That's exactly what Nick Preece did. What started as a curiosity fueled by YouTube videos and garage tinkering quickly evolved into Preece Machining & Assembly, a fast-growing shop focused on complex, high-mix aerospace work. In this Gen CNC episode, Nick shares how he bootstrapped the business from a used mill and a $1,200/month goal into a 10+ machine operation. Alongside his brother Tanner, the two built a company rooted in technical problem-solving, disciplined growth, and a willingness to learn everything the hard way, from customer concentration risk to hiring challenges. The conversation dives into how young shops can compete with larger manufacturers by focusing on complex work, building strong customer relationships, and creating positive sales pressure. Nick also explains how painful lessons around diversification forced them to rethink outreach, refine their quoting strategy, and become more intentional about the work they pursue. Nick also discusses scaling a team, investing in five-axis capability, and even bringing on strategic partners to accelerate growth. With a vision of building a full "PMA campus" and a culture built on kindness and urgency, Nick offers a real-world look at what it takes for the next generation of manufacturing leaders to grow fast without losing focus. His advice for anyone starting a shop? Don't just compete, turn it up to 11 and deliver something exceptional every single time. Segments (0:00) Introduction and welcome to Gen CNC featuring Nick Preece (2:24) Preece Machining & Assembly overview and aerospace focus (4:22) Origin story: learning machining on YouTube and starting in a garage (7:40) Working with family and division of responsibilities with Tanner (12:39) Bootstrapping the first machine to multiple machines and five-axis investments (15:00) Head to DN Solutions Manufacturing Without Limits event (15:59) How they make decisions on capital equipment (17:47) Sales and marketing strategy, customer concentration, and diversification (20:15) Building a sales process and generating positive sales pressure (21:34) First in, First Order: What is your ideal part profile? (27:7) Pricing pressure, margins, and competing during slow periods (30:54) Hiring strategy, workforce challenges, and recruiting experienced talent (33:55) Shop culture: kindness, urgency, and high performance (36:33) Why we love SMW Autoblok for workholding (38:48) Long-term vision and building a "PMA campus" (42:39) Five-axis strategy and thoughts on automation (45:10) Why you need to come see us at IMTS 2026 (46:04) Bringing on investment partners and scaling the business (49:24) Nick's advice to young founders: "turn it up to 11" Resources mentioned on this episode NYC CNC/John Saunders John Grimsmo Head to DN Solutions Manufacturing Without Limits event: DN-Solutions.com Paperless Parts: What is your ideal part profile? Why we love SMW Autoblok for workholding Hire MFG Leaders Why you need to come see us at IMTS 2026 Connect With MakingChips www.MakingChips.com On Facebook On LinkedIn On Instagram On Twitter On YouTube

    52 min

  3. MAR 30

    From Model Trains to Machining: How a 26-Year-Old Founder Turned Passion Into Precision

    What happens when a childhood obsession with trains turns into a manufacturing business? In this episode of MakingChips Generation CNC, we sit down with Chris Huffman, a young shop owner who launched Huffman Machining Solutions at just 21 years old. Now 26, Chris is building his business one machine, one customer, and one calculated risk at a time. Chris didn't grow up in a machining family, and he didn't follow the traditional path into manufacturing. Instead, his curiosity started with steam locomotives and model trains. That fascination led him to learn how parts were made, which eventually pulled him into machining. Along the way, he realized he didn't just love trains. He loved the process of turning raw material into precision components. That passion evolved into opportunity. Requests for custom parts began to pile up, and Chris saw a path forward. With minimal overhead, a steady job at a community college, and a willingness to take calculated risks, he bought his first machine, found a small space, and started building his shop from the ground up. In this conversation, Chris shares the realities of starting young. He talks through financing equipment, navigating insurance challenges, buying used machines, and learning business skills on the fly. He also opens up about the mental side of entrepreneurship, including the pressure of hiring a first employee and the responsibility that comes with building something bigger than yourself. This episode is a great look at what the next generation of manufacturing founders actually looks like. It's not about overnight success. It's about passion, persistence, and slowly laying the track to build a sustainable machine shop. Segments (0:00) Introduction to Chris Huffman and the Generation CNC young founder series (1:06) Starting a machine shop at 21 and the story behind Huffman Machining Solutions (4:30) From model trains to machining and discovering a passion for manufacturing (9:18) Why you need to come see us at IMTS 2026! (11:00) Desire to work on historic locomotives and falling in love with machining itself (14:10) Demand for parts lead to launching the business in 2022 (16:16) Transitioning from teaching machining to running a shop full-time (19:30) Financing the first machine and lessons learned about tooling costs (22:02) Buying a used Mazak and costly surprises after purchase (25:54) Adding additional machines and building capability as a one-man shop (28:43) Paperless Parts: CMMC compliant and secure option for estimating and quoting  (29:55) The "#ThankAMachinist" mindset and educating others about manufacturing (33:20) Hiring plans, apprenticeships, and outgrowing the current space (37:13) The fear and responsibility of hiring the first employee (38:40) Why we created Hire MFG Leaders (and why you should use it) (39:08) Learning the business side: scheduling, marketing, and sales (41:39) Long-term goals including ISO certification and ERP implementation (43:15) Letting go of machining work to grow the business (45:21) Opportunity to acquire retiring shop owners' businesses (46:50) Hosts' reflections on passion-driven paths into manufacturing Resources mentioned on this episode IMTS 2026: https://www.imts.com/ Paperless Parts: https://www.paperlessparts.com/ Coffey Machining Group: https://coffeymg.com/ The E-Myth Revisited: https://www.amazon.com/Myth-Revisited-Small-Businesses-About/dp/0887307280 Huffman Machining Solutions: https://huffmanmachining.com/ Connect with Chris on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-huffman-93b69423b/ Chris@HuffmanMachining.com

    50 min

  4. MAR 23

    From Engineering Lab to 5-Axis Shop: How Two Founders Under 30 Built Three Rivers Precision

    They started a machine shop before turning 30… and doubled their projections in year one. In this episode of MakingChips Generation CNC, we sit down with Sean and Sinjon of Three Rivers Precision to hear how two mechanical engineers turned hands-on curiosity into a high-end machining business focused on five-axis work, titanium, and complex parts. What began in a university machine shop quickly evolved into five years of learning inside a young manufacturing company, where they gained experience across programming, estimating, project management, and customer communication. When that company shifted direction, they made the leap. They mapped out their financial runway, secured startup funding, built out an empty facility, and launched with a clear strategy: focus on difficult materials, deliver fast, and build relationships by exceeding expectations. The result? A fully booked shop, automation plans, and growth without rushing to hire. Sean and Sinjon also share how they structured a 50/50 partnership, why they're prioritizing lights-out machining over headcount, their philosophy on paying skilled machinists well, and the mindset that helped them go all-in and build a modern machine shop from day one. From funding and partnerships to five-axis strategy and customer acquisition, this episode offers a candid look at how the next generation of manufacturing leaders is building modern machine shops from day one.  Segments (0:00) Introduction to Sean and Sinjon from Three Rivers Precision and their growth journey (2:21) Meeting at the University of Pittsburgh and early exposure to machining (9:04) Why Sean and Sinjon decided to launch Three Rivers Precision (15:15) Paperless Parts and secure AI-powered quoting for manufacturers (16:27) The emotional and financial risk of leaving secure jobs (17:53) Working with the Small Business Development Center (19:14) SMW Autoblok and the seven habits of highly effective workholding (21:04) Turning an empty shell into a working shop and their early sales strategy (24:02) Why they chose a higher-end machine strategy from the beginning (26:20) Why one-op or two-op efficiency matters more than "fancy" five-axis parts (27:30) Why they intentionally pursued harder materials (32:04) Paperless Parts: How to take the complexity out of running your business (39:53 ) How they're finding work and thinking about future growth (43:11) Their decision to pursue AS9100 early (44:43) What it's like to co-own a 50/50 business (47:04) Building a business around quality of life and flexibility (49:12) Factur and building a more consistent pipeline (53:52) How they're tracking against their original business plan (57:15) What was critical to their successful first year? (1:01:19) Final advice for young founders (1:03:05) Where to find Three Rivers Precision Resources mentioned on this episode SBDC CDFI Factur can help you build a more consistent pipeline: FacturMFG.com/chips Paperless Parts and secure AI-powered quoting for manufacturers SMW Autoblok and the seven habits of highly effective workholding ThreeRiversPrecision.com Connect on LinkedIn Hello@ThreeRiversPrevision.com Connect With MakingChips www.MakingChips.com On Facebook On LinkedIn On Instagram On Twitter On YouTube

    1h 4m

  5. MAR 16

    Lights Out Isn't the Future—It's Already Here

    Automation and lights-out manufacturing are often framed as the future of machining, but for many shops that future is already here. In this episode of MakingChips, we sit down with longtime industry leader Keith Grano to talk about what lights-out machining actually looks like in practice. Drawing on years of experience working with manufacturers, Keith explains how automation, machine monitoring, and disciplined processes allow shops to run more efficiently and extend production beyond the traditional workday. Lights-out machining isn't about replacing people. It's about using technology to make better use of the time, talent, and equipment already inside a shop. When done well, it increases capacity, improves consistency, and helps manufacturers grow even when skilled labor is limited. Keith walks through the practical considerations behind unattended production, including machine reliability, process stability, tooling strategy, and the systems required to keep parts running when no one is standing at the control. Along the way, we explore why many shops struggle to implement automation and why incremental steps often work better than trying to jump straight into fully autonomous production. This conversation also connects to a theme we've been exploring across our Generation CNC series: the next generation of manufacturing leaders is entering an industry where automation and digital systems are becoming foundational capabilities. Understanding how lights-out machining works, and when it makes sense, will shape how the next generation builds and scales their shops. Segments (1:28) Introducing Keith Grano and his background in manufacturing automation (3:06) What "lights-out machining" actually means in a modern shop (7:23) Why automation is about maximizing equipment and people, not replacing labor (12:09) The operational discipline required to run machines unattended (14:52) How ProShop ERP can help you achieve on-time delivery (20:11) Why process stability matters more than the machine itself (25:08) Tooling strategy, monitoring, and the systems that support unattended production (29:38) If you want the speed of AI without the risk, go to PaperlessParts.com (30:53) The mindset you need to have to implement lights-out machining (33:13) Where do you start with lights out automation?  (40:08) How to adjust your mindset to allow for automation (46:33) How machine monitoring and data change decision-making on the shop floor (51:27) Why we created Hire MFG Leaders (and why you should use it) (51:58) The most affordable way to automate a five-axis setup (58:54) How state, local, and federal grants can help cover purchases (1:00:47) How to determine what to charge for a machine's time  Resources mentioned on this episode Visit proshoperp.com/95 to get a free guide to achieve on-time delivery If you want the speed of AI without the risk, go to PaperlessParts.com Why we created Hire MFG Leaders (and why you should use it) ROI Calculator Connect With MakingChips www.MakingChips.com On Facebook On LinkedIn On Instagram On Twitter On YouTube

    1h 5m

  6. MAR 9

    Low Overhead, High Conviction: A 20-Year-Old's Approach to Manufacturing

    At 17 years old, Michael King bought a brand-new CNC machine despite never having seen one in person. With no formal trade school background or apprenticeship, he relied on years of self-directed learning, curiosity, and a steady stream of YouTube machining content to take the leap. He sectioned off space in his dad's warehouse, installed a Haas DM2, and started figuring it out in real time. What began as a personal interest in building things quickly turned into real production work. A stainless steel contract gave him early traction. A used Swiss machine that arrived broken forced him to learn diagnostics and hand-code thousands of lines of G-code. Over time, one machine became several, including a dual-spindle lathe and a five-axis Matsura, forming the foundation of what is now The Monk Works. In this episode of MakingChips Generation CNC, we talk through how Michael has approached growth with unusual discipline. He's kept overhead low, relied entirely on word-of-mouth instead of advertising, and leaned heavily into technology from day one. Rather than scaling by adding headcount immediately, he's focused on automation, standardized tooling, and building systems that allow the business to operate beyond what he can personally track in his head. The conversation also explores how he thinks about cash flow, process maturity, quality, and long-term sustainability. At just 20 years old, married with two kids, Michael is already navigating the tension between capacity and structure, ambition and patience. His story challenges the idea that manufacturing has a high barrier to entry while reinforcing that longevity still depends on discipline and intentional decision-making. Segments (0:00) Buying a brand-new Haas DM2 at 17 (before ever seeing a CNC machine in person) (1:24) RC planes, 3D printing, Fusion 360, and discovering machining through YouTube (6:24) The YouTube channels that shaped Michael's journey (8:27) Paperless Parts: secure AI-powered quoting built for manufacturers (9:42) Landing the first year-long stainless contract and realizing the machine had more capacity (11:00) How Michael learned business fundamentals from his dad (12:21) Becoming a firefighter, HVAC tech, drone pilot, and getting married (13:38) The $5,000 "working" Swiss machine and the lessons that followed (16:39) The Monk Works brand story: small, fast, agile, and intentionally different (18:58) IMTS 2026: Why getting out of the shop and into the show matters (20:07) Financing growth: bootstrapping under an established family business (21:44) Homeschooling, self-directed learning, and defining meaningful work (22:38) Faith, diligence, and quality as a leadership philosophy (23:52) Realizing systems must scale before workload does (25:35) Building his business entirely through word-of-mouth (26:52) Launching proprietary titanium suppressor accessories alongside contract work (28:00) Certifications, ERP systems, and preparing for higher-regulated industries (29:47) Embracing paperless workflows, CAM, automation, and standardized tooling (33:09) Adding automation to unlock capacity without adding labor (35:50) SMW Autoblok, RASRAM, and the seven habits of highly effective workholding (37:50) Advice for young entrepreneurs: low overhead, low risk, and just start Resources mentioned on this episode The Munkworks Connect with Michael on LinkedIn TITANS of CNC NYC CNC John Grimsmo Adam Savage Hacksmith Industries Donnie Hinske Paperless Parts Join us at IMTS 2026 SMW Autoblok Connect With MakingChips www.MakingChips.com On Facebook On LinkedIn On Instagram On Twitter On YouTube

    42 min

  7. MAR 2

    Building a One-Man Shop with Big Vision: Walter Peters on Low Overhead, Automation, and Freedom

    In this episode of MakingChips, we continue our young founders series with a story that challenges the traditional growth narrative in manufacturing.  At just 26, Walter Peters is balancing a full-time job at a defense-focused shop with building MW Machine Co. from a modest 500-square-foot industrial unit. Walter didn't start with a big loan or a brand-new machine. He bought a used CNC mill for $6,500, kept overhead intentionally low, and focused on getting good at both machining and business fundamentals. But what makes this conversation especially interesting isn't just how he started. It's how he defines success. Walter isn't chasing 100 spindles or a massive payroll. He's building toward a highly automated, small-footprint, lifestyle-oriented shop that gives him time freedom and intellectual stimulation without the burden of heavy overhead or HR complexity. We talk about finding work with no formal sales plan, leveraging Google reviews, balancing a day job while building a business, using AI as a thinking partner, and why low stress starts with low fixed costs. This episode is a grounded, practical look at modern entrepreneurship in manufacturing — especially for the next generation. Segments (0:00) Introducing Walter Peters and MW Machine C. (2:31) Walter's unconventional path from video production to woodworking to machining (6:13) Leaving cabinet work and moving toward CNC-focused fabrication (8:42) Meet us at MFG Meeting 2026 (9:32) Buying his first CNC mill and signing a lease in late 2023 (11:21) Landing early work through cold calls and a serendipitous utility customer (14:31) The reality of entrepreneurship: quoting, purchasing, and doing the "business stuff" (16:03) Working full-time while building MW Machine Co. (19:31) The current shop setup: one CNC mill, manual lathe, TIG welder, 500 sq. ft. space (20:18) Bootstrapping with less than $30,000 and reaching profitability in year two (22:52) Managing cash flow and keeping monthly overhead intentionally low (23:57) His long-term plan to go full-time and why he's staying employed for now (25:25) His long-term vision: a small, automated shop connected to his home (26:43) Time freedom, automation, and the Lights Out mindset (30:20) The goal of owning the building and eliminating rent as overhead (31:45) Get a free report about the opportunities available to you at Facturmfg.com/chips (32:48) Growing up around content creation and craftsmanship with his father (37:43) Using ChatGPT and AI tools to think through quoting and problem-solving (41:18) Generating work through Google reviews and inbound RFQs (46:12) Why low overhead and small, shippable parts create leverage (46:56) Need workholding? Check out the SMW Autoblok catalog Resources mentioned on this episode Walter Peters MW Machine Co. Meet us at MFG Meeting 2026 Get a free report about the opportunities available to you at Facturmfg.com/chips Need workholding? Check out the SMW Autoblok catalog The Long View Podcast Longview Woodworking Connect With MakingChips www.MakingChips.com On Facebook On LinkedIn On Instagram On Twitter On YouTube

    48 min

  8. FEB 23

    Reindustrializing America: How Zane Hengsperger Is Reinventing the Metal Supply Chain

    What happens when a 26-year-old machine shop kid decides the real bottleneck in American manufacturing isn't machining—it's metal supply? In this episode, we sit down with Zane Hengsperger, founder and CEO of Knox Metals, to talk about building a modern service center powered by AI, automation, and software. Zane's mission is bold: supply every factory in America in under 24 hours at a fair, transparent price. Raised in his father's injection molding shop, Zane grew up on shop floors before pivoting into software, startups, and eventually reindustrialization. After publicly sharing his ideas online, Y Combinator reached out—and within 24 hours, he had funding and a flight to San Francisco. We explore what it takes to modernize the metals supply chain, the friction of accessing domestic mills, the realities of startup logistics, and why focusing exclusively on aluminum plate might be Knox's smartest strategic move yet. This is a conversation about speed, ownership, risk, and the future of American manufacturing—not just at the machine level, but across the entire supply chain. Segments (1:34) Introducing Zane Hengsperger and Knox Metals' mission (2:46) Growing up in a machine shop and learning manufacturing early (3:35) Paperless Parts ad — Secure AI for quoting (4:48) From software startup to reindustrialization (6:48) Early struggles gaining access to domestic mills (8:53) Why Knox is narrowing focus to aluminum plate (10:05) Instant quoting and automated cutting — what makes it different (11:30) Building a hybrid team: industry veterans + software talent (13:05) Potential integrations and vertical integration strategy (16:23) Team structure and rapid early growth (18:26) How Y Combinator found Zane — and funded Knox in 24 hours (20:59) Young founders, machine shop resurgence, and generational opportunity (25:00) How to attract young talent into manufacturing (27:05) MFG 2026 ad — Executive leadership event (29:48) The overlooked opportunities in manufacturing careers beyond the shop floor (30:59) Early lessons: building selection and trying to serve everyone (32:52) Why narrowing their focus created leverage (33:42) How Knox manages inventory, mills, and lead times (36:10) The massive aluminum block story (18,000+ pounds) (39:21) Mentorship, investors, and surrounding yourself with believers (41:46) YC's push into reindustrialization (45:50) Technology vs. tribal knowledge in rebuilding industry (47:24) Has age been an obstacle? Building trust over time (49:59) Biggest wins so far — stacking consistent progress (51:47) Expansion plans: LA, regional giga-factories, and automation (54:19) ProShop ad — Investing in your own shop first (55:56) Where to find Knox Metals and connect with Zane Resources mentioned on this episode NOX Metals  Connect with Zane on X and LinkedIn Zane@NoxMetals.co The Technological Republic  Y Combinator Connect With MakingChips www.MakingChips.com On Facebook On LinkedIn On Instagram On Twitter On YouTube

    58 min
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Manufacturing is tough—but you don't have to go it alone. If you're leading a manufacturing business, you face constant pressure: staying competitive, adopting new tech, managing people, and driving growth. MakingChips helps you tackle those challenges head-on. Since 2014, we've been equipping manufacturing leaders with the knowledge and inspiration they need to succeed. With hundreds of episodes and over a million downloads, MakingChips is a top resource for the metalworking nation—covering leadership, operations, technology, and workforce development. If making chips is part of your daily grind, this is your podcast. Join hosts Nick Goellner, Mike Payne, and Paul Van Metre for real talk on the issues that matter most.

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