Wireframe is now In The Making. From social media influencers to small local businesses, people everywhere are harnessing the power of creative tools to design not just brands and content, but also deeply satisfying careers. In the Making explores the practical challenges and surprising rewards of working in this new creator economy. Join Adobe’s Teresa Au for conversations with content creators, solopreneurs, and industry experts who offer inspiration and insight for combining creativity, community, and business.
Impatience is a Virtue with Chris Do
Teresa Au chats with Emmy-winning design superstar Chris Do about his pivot from design to teaching, his education platform The Futur, and all the things he didn’t learn in design school. You’ll hear all about how Chris’ 2M+ social followers inspire his content, and Chris answers questions from design students. Plus, Chris opens up about why now is the time for him to share his personal story as a refugee, what really fuels his work, and how he recharges.
Notes from the Field with Aaron Draplin
Inspiration is on tap as Teresa Au speaks to graphic designer, entrepreneur, and author Aaron Draplin. Known as much for his warm and direct personality as for his signature thick lines design style and ample use of Pantone Orange 21, Aaron is a hero to designers everywhere. Aaron shares lessons gleaned from his midwestern upbringing, nearly 20 years in business on his own, and creating his Field Notes and DDC branded merchandise.
Unfolding Your Money Story with Berna Anat
What’s it like to pay off $50,000 in debt, ditch your 9-to-5, travel the world, create educational content, and build community in the process? Teresa Au speaks to Financial Hype Woman and content creator Berna Anat about how she did all that and how she’s planning for tomorrow. Berna also shares how our emotional relationship with money impacts our decisions, her strategies for budgeting, saving and retirement, and what to do when the creator life doesn’t love you back.
The Other Side of Fear with Tobi Shinobi
Whether it’s leaving the comfort of a steady paycheck to pursue photography, or checking out the possibilities of AI, sometimes the greatest rewards lie on the other side of fear. Teresa Au speaks to photographer Tobi Shinobi about his first career in law, making a name on Instagram, and why drone photography is so peaceful. Tobi also shares his perspectives as a brand strategist, advising the same types of corporate clients who hire him for their shoots.
Don’t Quit Your Day Job with Miranda Wong
When is it better to keep your side hustle on the side, and stay with your day job? Teresa Au speaks to UX designer-by-day, illustrator-by-night Miranda Wong about the pros and cons of working a second shift in a creative field. Miranda shares her strategies for time management, why her illustration business makes her better at her day job, and the hidden rewards of meeting customers and vendors in real life.
Brand-Aid with Phil Pallen
For small business owners and creators, building your brand is the way to show the world what makes you great and why they should care. Teresa Au speaks to personal branding expert and content creator Phil Pallan about developing an authentic and consistent brand that will help you reach your goals.
Lovely show, but sometimes feels like Khoi is reading a script
This show is tremendous. I love to listen to it. It makes me smarter and the guests are great. However, sometimes it’s far too obvious that Khoi is reading. And if he’s not, then he takes on this ‘reading’ voice that’s very contrasted with the conversational speed, tone and sound of the other voices at other points in the podcast, and even very contrasted by how he sounds when he’s just talking.
Hope this helps!
Just a nice warm conversation with a designer, very chill
Interesting topics and clear instructions
This podcast covers a wide variety of cool things and has taught me a lot about different aspects of design. If you want to know more about design topics definitely give it a listen